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1/21/2016 3:30:34 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
DIED LAST DP

Smithers - You are a UNICORN. Probably one of the most universally respected, liked, and well-known mythological creatures, your stature in folklore alone is enough to make you stand out. Because you are the king of creatures, as it were, you are a VANILLA (aka GOON). You have no role. You win with the mafia.

DIED LAST NIGHT


Trekie (Breaking) - You are a LOOGAROO. By day, you disguise yourself as a normal human being, hiding your true self with the outer skin of a dead human. Every night, you go into the house of an unsuspecting victim, drink their blood, and, in some cases, steal their now-lifeless body. Because you change skins so often, you are the JOAT. You have the following 1-shot abilities: Ascetic, Motivator, and Watcher. As the ascetic, you may make yourself unaffected by nonlethal actions during a NP. As a motivator, you may give an X-shot role an extra shot, or give a role not restricted by shots a chance to user their roles twice in one night. You may not self-motivate. As watcher, you may select a player, and learn who, if anyone, visits them. You win with the town.

GRAVEYARD

Smithers - Unicorn, Vanilla/Goon - Mafia
Trekie - Loogaroo, JOAT - Town
YYW - Tomte, Roleblocker - Mafia
Coca - Boggart, Tracker - Town
Forever - Phoenix, Popular - Mafia
Saph - Werewolf, Gunsmith - Town
HPG - Banshee, Vanilla - Town
Voice - Grendel, Vigilante - TP (Town)
Cobalt - Gremlin, Randomizer - Town
FT/Budda - Jotunn, Doctor - Town

LIVING PLAYERS

Blazro
Midnight
Vaar
Dalt
Coca (Space) (316)
Lannan (XLAV)
Cobalt (Wylted)

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.
The DP ends at 9:05pm, Central Time, on 1/22/16.


Good luck! Let the games begin.
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1/21/2016 3:30:50 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
ATTENTION

Coca is replacing in for Space.
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1/21/2016 4:18:10 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/21/2016 3:55:57 AM, Cobalt wrote:
Well Lannan... What was it you said you stole?

A ninja strongman thingy.

FYI, my wifi is running very slow.
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1/21/2016 4:50:50 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
I actually think Lannan's claim has quite a bit of credence now. "Because you are the king of all animals, you are Vanilla" doesn't make much sense unless smith was converted.
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1/21/2016 5:14:58 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/21/2016 4:49:28 AM, Cobalt wrote:
Ah, ok. Then she was converted to a vanilla. I was suspicious for a moment, unduly.

*he
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1/21/2016 5:25:10 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/21/2016 5:14:58 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 1/21/2016 4:49:28 AM, Cobalt wrote:
Ah, ok. Then she was converted to a vanilla. I was suspicious for a moment, unduly.

*he

Oh Jesus christ lannan, do the pronouns really matter? We're in a game where we're all assumed to be mythological beasts from ye olde ancient times -- I think Smithers will forgive my pronoun mix ups.

And good to see your wifi is good enough to correct me.
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1/21/2016 1:18:57 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/21/2016 5:25:10 AM, Cobalt wrote:
At 1/21/2016 5:14:58 AM, lannan13 wrote:

And good to see your wifi is good enough to correct me.

I know lannan doesn't have the best wifi, and is sometimes busy, but with how much he's been missing, it's starting to get ridiculous, even for him.
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1/21/2016 1:39:04 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/21/2016 5:25:10 AM, Cobalt wrote:
At 1/21/2016 5:14:58 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 1/21/2016 4:49:28 AM, Cobalt wrote:
Ah, ok. Then she was converted to a vanilla. I was suspicious for a moment, unduly.

*he

Oh Jesus christ lannan, do the pronouns really matter? We're in a game where we're all assumed to be mythological beasts from ye olde ancient times -- I think Smithers will forgive my pronoun mix ups.

And good to see your wifi is good enough to correct me.

A) Dude, you are kind of overreacting yourself.
B) Yeah, his wifi must be good if he can type three letters.
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1/21/2016 1:41:07 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/21/2016 1:39:04 PM, BlazingRodent wrote:
At 1/21/2016 5:25:10 AM, Cobalt wrote:
At 1/21/2016 5:14:58 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 1/21/2016 4:49:28 AM, Cobalt wrote:
Ah, ok. Then she was converted to a vanilla. I was suspicious for a moment, unduly.

*he

Oh Jesus christ lannan, do the pronouns really matter? We're in a game where we're all assumed to be mythological beasts from ye olde ancient times -- I think Smithers will forgive my pronoun mix ups.

And good to see your wifi is good enough to correct me.

A) Dude, you are kind of overreacting yourself.
B) Yeah, his wifi must be good if he can type three letters.

I wouldn't care if this was the first time. He's just literally corrected me on that exact issue some 5 times now. It's irritating because he seems more interested in correcting pronoun usage than providing useful information/reads.
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1/21/2016 1:42:45 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/21/2016 1:41:07 PM, Cobalt wrote:
At 1/21/2016 1:39:04 PM, BlazingRodent wrote:
At 1/21/2016 5:25:10 AM, Cobalt wrote:
At 1/21/2016 5:14:58 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 1/21/2016 4:49:28 AM, Cobalt wrote:
Ah, ok. Then she was converted to a vanilla. I was suspicious for a moment, unduly.

*he

Oh Jesus christ lannan, do the pronouns really matter? We're in a game where we're all assumed to be mythological beasts from ye olde ancient times -- I think Smithers will forgive my pronoun mix ups.

And good to see your wifi is good enough to correct me.

A) Dude, you are kind of overreacting yourself.
B) Yeah, his wifi must be good if he can type three letters.

I wouldn't care if this was the first time. He's just literally corrected me on that exact issue some 5 times now. It's irritating because he seems more interested in correcting pronoun usage than providing useful information/reads.

Alright then. What should we talk about?
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1/21/2016 1:46:13 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/21/2016 1:42:45 PM, BlazingRodent wrote:

Alright then. What should we talk about?

Well, for one -- how do you feel about Lannan? Do you think that his supposed theft of Smithers' role confirms him? Do you find it suspicious that he is unable to use the role, or does that just make sense to you?
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1/21/2016 1:49:53 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/21/2016 1:46:13 PM, Cobalt wrote:
At 1/21/2016 1:42:45 PM, BlazingRodent wrote:

Alright then. What should we talk about?

Well, for one -- how do you feel about Lannan? Do you think that his supposed theft of Smithers' role confirms him? Do you find it suspicious that he is unable to use the role, or does that just make sense to you?

Hmm. Well there is a town role where you can take someone's role... if it is the first person to die in the game, so he can't be that. If he is unable to use it? I am not sure what that could mean. Are mafia not allowed certain roles?
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1/21/2016 3:07:26 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/21/2016 1:46:13 PM, Cobalt wrote:
At 1/21/2016 1:42:45 PM, BlazingRodent wrote:

Alright then. What should we talk about?

Well, for one -- how do you feel about Lannan? Do you think that his supposed theft of Smithers' role confirms him? Do you find it suspicious that he is unable to use the role, or does that just make sense to you?

Well why would mafia steal another mafia's role?
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1/21/2016 4:19:07 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/21/2016 3:07:26 PM, Vaarka wrote:
At 1/21/2016 1:46:13 PM, Cobalt wrote:
At 1/21/2016 1:42:45 PM, BlazingRodent wrote:

Alright then. What should we talk about?

Well, for one -- how do you feel about Lannan? Do you think that his supposed theft of Smithers' role confirms him? Do you find it suspicious that he is unable to use the role, or does that just make sense to you?

Well why would mafia steal another mafia's role?

Then again, why would town have two JOATs?
You're probably thinking right now "haha I'm a genius". Well you're not -Valkrin

inferno: "I don't know, are you attracted to women?"
ButterCatX: "No, Vaarka is mine!"

All hail scum Vaarka, wielder of the bastard sword, smiter of nations, destroyer of spiders -VOT

"Vaarka, I've been thinking about this for a long time now," (pulls out small box made of macaroni) "W-will you be my noodle buddy?" -Kirigaya
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1/21/2016 6:42:57 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/21/2016 5:25:10 AM, Cobalt wrote:


And good to see your wifi is good enough to correct me.

Got to a library computer now.
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1/21/2016 6:43:14 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/21/2016 1:18:57 PM, Vaarka wrote:
At 1/21/2016 5:25:10 AM, Cobalt wrote:
At 1/21/2016 5:14:58 AM, lannan13 wrote:

And good to see your wifi is good enough to correct me.

I know lannan doesn't have the best wifi, and is sometimes busy, but with how much he's been missing, it's starting to get ridiculous, even for him.

My finals are this week.
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1/21/2016 6:45:39 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/21/2016 1:49:53 PM, BlazingRodent wrote:
At 1/21/2016 1:46:13 PM, Cobalt wrote:
At 1/21/2016 1:42:45 PM, BlazingRodent wrote:

Alright then. What should we talk about?

Well, for one -- how do you feel about Lannan? Do you think that his supposed theft of Smithers' role confirms him? Do you find it suspicious that he is unable to use the role, or does that just make sense to you?

Hmm. Well there is a town role where you can take someone's role... if it is the first person to die in the game, so he can't be that. If he is unable to use it? I am not sure what that could mean. Are mafia not allowed certain roles?

Think of it like this.

Normally the Mafia can preform the night kill and Smithereens could use his role as ninja/strongman. I rolestealed Smithereens gaining his role. Without being able to use the night kill, my role is pointless.
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1/21/2016 6:48:40 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
I actually want to hear from Coca (Space) this DP.
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1/22/2016 3:36:46 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
I'm still extremely confused as to why Smithers claimed vig if he was a mafioso, but whatever.
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1/22/2016 3:45:02 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
Funny thing is, trying to figure out why mafia NK'd Trekie, I actually think Trekie was actually a poor NK choice.

I was semi-suspicious of her as the DP ended because she outed that result on Smithers at a time that it would have been extremely viable for scum to try and bus - he was already buried in a hole, if she could frame herself as being the hammer in his coffin, she could position herself as a town leader. I might have even been tunnelling her coming into this DP. Granted, I'm a paranoid player, but still.
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1/22/2016 3:55:28 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
VTL Blazro

I'm inclined to think the last scum is between him, Cobalt/Wylted, and maybe Midnight. Or maybe Vaarka, but his behaviour seems town.

The flip doesn't confirm Lannan at all - it might actually be strategic for a scum role stealer to use it on a fellow scummate, especially given the situation Smithers was in, but he is probably town on behaviour.

Likewise, Blazro's hammer definitely doesn't confirm him, just like with YYW/Forever. It actually makes no strategic sense to not hammer Smithers; it brings a quicker end to what could have been an elongated DP. It'd be viable for scum to attempt to float under the radar at this point and also throughout the game. Not being overly active would thus give them an excuse to not consistently hop onto scum wagons, like YYW/Smithers. Should focus on pressuring players who have been doing just that throughout the game.

Coca is also town for evident reasons imo.
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1/22/2016 4:24:13 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
VOTE COUNT

Blazro (1/4) - Dalt
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1/22/2016 4:27:18 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
TIME CHECK

About 20 hours and 40 minutes remain in the DP.
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1/22/2016 4:29:37 AM
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I won't be on until late tomorrow night. I'm really sorry for inactivity but by that point I'll have a comprehensive list of reads formulated. I'm at a debate tournament so I will be busy. Has 316/spacetime/ who ever I am replacing claimed? I haven't caught up and read the DP.
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1/22/2016 4:47:18 AM
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At 1/22/2016 3:36:46 AM, Daltonian wrote:
I'm still extremely confused as to why Smithers claimed vig if he was a mafioso, but whatever.

It is probably due to his role Failure that the mafia would have him preform the night kill. So he would appear as vig, this would look good off the bat if his role ever failed.
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1/22/2016 4:55:50 AM
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At 1/22/2016 3:55:28 AM, Daltonian wrote:
VTL Blazro

I'm inclined to think the last scum is between him, Cobalt/Wylted, and maybe Midnight. Or maybe Vaarka, but his behaviour seems town.

The flip doesn't confirm Lannan at all - it might actually be strategic for a scum role stealer to use it on a fellow scummate, especially given the situation Smithers was in, but he is probably town on behaviour.

Likewise, Blazro's hammer definitely doesn't confirm him, just like with YYW/Forever. It actually makes no strategic sense to not hammer Smithers; it brings a quicker end to what could have been an elongated DP. It'd be viable for scum to attempt to float under the radar at this point and also throughout the game. Not being overly active would thus give them an excuse to not consistently hop onto scum wagons, like YYW/Smithers. Should focus on pressuring players who have been doing just that throughout the game.

Coca is also town for evident reasons imo.

I hop on wagons because people give good reasons to lynch them, and they usually explain it before I do.
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1/22/2016 5:27:00 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 3:55:28 AM, Daltonian wrote:
VTL Blazro

I'm inclined to think the last scum is between him, Cobalt/Wylted, and maybe Midnight. Or maybe Vaarka, but his behaviour seems town.

The flip doesn't confirm Lannan at all - it might actually be strategic for a scum role stealer to use it on a fellow scummate, especially given the situation Smithers was in, but he is probably town on behaviour.

Likewise, Blazro's hammer definitely doesn't confirm him, just like with YYW/Forever. It actually makes no strategic sense to not hammer Smithers; it brings a quicker end to what could have been an elongated DP. It'd be viable for scum to attempt to float under the radar at this point and also throughout the game. Not being overly active would thus give them an excuse to not consistently hop onto scum wagons, like YYW/Smithers. Should focus on pressuring players who have been doing just that throughout the game.

Coca is also town for evident reasons imo.

I could see the role steal as a bus had Lannan claimed the steal after trek revealed the watch on Smith. But right at the beginning of the DP Lannan claimed to have stolen, which was well before Smith was in an obvious position.

I don't think Blazro's hammer confirms him either, but he's difficult to read considering his participation hasn't been particularly relevant.

Why is coca evidently town? (I'm not accusing you, I just may have missed it.)
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1/22/2016 5:29:19 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 4:29:37 AM, cocaine wrote:
I won't be on until late tomorrow night. I'm really sorry for inactivity but by that point I'll have a comprehensive list of reads formulated. I'm at a debate tournament so I will be busy. Has 316/spacetime/ who ever I am replacing claimed? I haven't caught up and read the DP.

There is less than 20 hours remaining in the DP. Late tomorrow night may well be too late.

Can you try and post reads at least 10 hours before the end? They don't have to be extensive, but any input would help. This DP has been unbearably short.