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bsh1
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2/1/2016 7:45:42 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
Mafia wins!!

MAFIA

Kier - You are a GOON. You have no role.

Flex - You are a GOON. You have no role.

Bob - You are a ROLEBLOCKER. Each night you may target another player and prevent them from using their role.

TOWN

FT - You are the DOCTOR. Each night you may select another player and protect them from lethal actions. You win with the town.

Obi - You are the COP. Each night you may select another player and learn their affiliation (guilty = mafia; innocent = town). You win with the town.

Everyone Else - You are VANILLA. You have no role. You win with the town.

NIGHT ACTIONS

NP1

FT - Doc Lannan
Obi - Cop FT
Bob - Rlbk. FT
Bob - NK Lannan

NP2

FT - Doc Jane
Obi - Cop Rosalie
Bob - Rlbk. Obi
Bob - NK FT

Good game. The next game should be posted by Wednesday of this week. Be on the lookout!
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Rosalie
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2/1/2016 7:52:12 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
Wow.....*applauds* good job Kier for that stubborn Lynch on obi. XD
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2/1/2016 9:03:49 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/1/2016 7:52:12 AM, Rosalie wrote:
Wow.....*applauds* good job Kier for that stubborn Lynch on obi. XD

I think my terrible play DP2 might have made it easier for him. Many lessons learnt.

Well played by the mafia. Town had no idea :P
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2/1/2016 9:28:01 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
Tej, we should have voted for Bob first.
#ALLHAILFIRETHEKINGOFTHEMISCFORUM

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2/1/2016 10:21:42 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
Obi, the mix-claim you did was irresponsible, and shouldn't *ever* be repeated.

I got Flex and bob13 as scum spot on -- the only reason I believed Kier in the end was your fake claim, which is something town should never do.
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2/1/2016 10:22:18 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/1/2016 9:28:01 AM, fire_wings wrote:
Tej, we should have voted for Bob first.

I tried to build a wagon on bob13 but many townies didn't agree.
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2/1/2016 10:22:43 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/1/2016 10:22:18 AM, tejretics wrote:
At 2/1/2016 9:28:01 AM, fire_wings wrote:
Tej, we should have voted for Bob first.

I tried to build a wagon on bob13 but many townies didn't agree.

Yeah.
#ALLHAILFIRETHEKINGOFTHEMISCFORUM

...it's not a new policy... it's just that DDO was built on an ancient burial ground, and that means the spirits of old rise again to cause us problems sometimes- Airmax1227

Wtf you must have an IQ of 250 if you're 11 and already decent at this- 16k

Go to sleep!!!!- missmozart

So to start off, I never committed suicide- Vaarka
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2/1/2016 10:23:02 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
Bob was too scummy.
#ALLHAILFIRETHEKINGOFTHEMISCFORUM

...it's not a new policy... it's just that DDO was built on an ancient burial ground, and that means the spirits of old rise again to cause us problems sometimes- Airmax1227

Wtf you must have an IQ of 250 if you're 11 and already decent at this- 16k

Go to sleep!!!!- missmozart

So to start off, I never committed suicide- Vaarka
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2/1/2016 10:23:58 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/1/2016 10:23:02 AM, fire_wings wrote:
Bob was too scummy.

No, he wasn't -- except for his attempt to lynch Hayd, but I predicted he was mafia before that on account of elimination. Bob13 and Flex were scum because nobody else could be.
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2/1/2016 10:24:25 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/1/2016 10:23:58 AM, tejretics wrote:
At 2/1/2016 10:23:02 AM, fire_wings wrote:
Bob was too scummy.

No, he wasn't -- except for his attempt to lynch Hayd, but I predicted he was mafia before that on account of elimination. Bob13 and Flex were scum because nobody else could be.

Yes. He was not active, also.
#ALLHAILFIRETHEKINGOFTHEMISCFORUM

...it's not a new policy... it's just that DDO was built on an ancient burial ground, and that means the spirits of old rise again to cause us problems sometimes- Airmax1227

Wtf you must have an IQ of 250 if you're 11 and already decent at this- 16k

Go to sleep!!!!- missmozart

So to start off, I never committed suicide- Vaarka
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2/1/2016 10:25:48 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
Well played, Kier.

bob13, your push on Jane was too obviously scummy -- you should really try to act as town and push only valid mislynches, like Kier did.
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2/1/2016 10:34:41 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/1/2016 7:45:42 AM, bsh1 wrote:

Obi wasn't lynched, because I unvoted prior to Rosalie's vote in page 4, and then Rosalie voted and you declared the game over.
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2/1/2016 12:58:03 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
Good game y'all. Unfortunately, we can't go back to replay out this discrepancy. I did read the "Unvote VTL Obi" as "Unvote, VTL Obi" instead of "Unvote the VTL Obi". So I thought it was a "Unvote" > "VTL Obi" instead of unvoting the VTL. Looking forward to the next game. Also, can anyone provide some constructive criticism for my play either here or in PM? It would be appreciated.
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2/1/2016 1:01:20 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
Bsh1, can we have a list of who died (like a graveyard)?
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2/1/2016 1:40:25 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/1/2016 1:28:02 PM, TheFlex wrote:
Lannan - NK'd - Town, no role.
FT - NK'd - Town, Doctor.
Obi - Mislynch - Town, Cop.

I meant everyone, like all the lynches, not just town deaths/mislynches
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2/1/2016 2:39:04 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
Rose was town. That's a shock.
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2/1/2016 2:44:46 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/1/2016 1:40:25 PM, Vaarka wrote:
At 2/1/2016 1:28:02 PM, TheFlex wrote:
Lannan - NK'd - Town, no role.
FT - NK'd - Town, Doctor.
Obi - Mislynch - Town, Cop.

I meant everyone, like all the lynches, not just town deaths/mislynches

That was all the people that died.
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2/1/2016 2:45:23 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/1/2016 2:44:46 PM, TheFlex wrote:
At 2/1/2016 1:40:25 PM, Vaarka wrote:
At 2/1/2016 1:28:02 PM, TheFlex wrote:
Lannan - NK'd - Town, no role.
FT - NK'd - Town, Doctor.
Obi - Mislynch - Town, Cop.

I meant everyone, like all the lynches, not just town deaths/mislynches

That was all the people that died.

That was it? Only one lynch throughout the game?
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2/1/2016 2:46:20 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/1/2016 2:45:23 PM, Vaarka wrote:
At 2/1/2016 2:44:46 PM, TheFlex wrote:
At 2/1/2016 1:40:25 PM, Vaarka wrote:
At 2/1/2016 1:28:02 PM, TheFlex wrote:
Lannan - NK'd - Town, no role.
FT - NK'd - Town, Doctor.
Obi - Mislynch - Town, Cop.

I meant everyone, like all the lynches, not just town deaths/mislynches

That was all the people that died.

That was it? Only one lynch throughout the game?

Yup. Too much confusion throughout the first two DPs for a lynch.
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2/1/2016 3:03:22 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/1/2016 2:39:04 PM, lannan13 wrote:
Rose was town. That's a shock.

How? Lol
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2/1/2016 3:34:26 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
Townies, please avoid these

At 1/27/2016 5:30:02 AM, bsh1 wrote:
FINAL TALLY

Bob (2/6) - Fire, Jane
Flex (1/6) - Kier
Jane (1/6) - Tej
FT (1/6) - Rosalie
Rosalie (1/6) - Flex

RESULT

The DP ended in a no-lynch!
Submit night actions.
Stop posting.

as much as possible. Lynching is a town's weapon, not mafia's. Work together to find the perfect lynch. The lynch doesn't have to be someone you scum read. You can also lynch someone you null read.
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2/1/2016 3:51:10 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/1/2016 3:49:59 PM, XLAV wrote:
Some scum tell and town tells 101 from skimming DP1.

At 1/25/2016 3:26:35 PM, Bob13 wrote:
VTLN
Because I need more time to figure out who's scum and who's not.
scum tell

At 1/25/2016 9:42:10 AM, fire_wings wrote:
I am Vanilla IceCream!
town tell

At 1/25/2016 8:42:36 PM, janesix wrote:
VTL Fire-wings

Firewings is not vanilla
town tell

Though these tells only work for noobs.
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2/1/2016 4:29:41 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
Just gonna say, I'm not a girl btw. My profile indicates I'm male and the profile pic is just artwork a buddy of mine did that I thought was awesome. I didn't correct anyone in-game because I felt people were trusting me more because they thought I was a girl.
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2/1/2016 4:44:35 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/1/2016 4:29:41 PM, Kierhein wrote:
Just gonna say, I'm not a girl btw. My profile indicates I'm male and the profile pic is just artwork a buddy of mine did that I thought was awesome. I didn't correct anyone in-game because I felt people were trusting me more because they thought I was a girl.

That's cute sweetheart. We still respect you if you're a girl, you don't have to lie about being a guy.
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2/1/2016 4:46:53 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/1/2016 4:29:41 PM, Kierhein wrote:
Just gonna say, I'm not a girl btw. My profile indicates I'm male and the profile pic is just artwork a buddy of mine did that I thought was awesome. I didn't correct anyone in-game because I felt people were trusting me more because they thought I was a girl.


Wow....lmao

Nobody trusted I was town, though I'm a girl. :(
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2/1/2016 5:26:49 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/1/2016 10:34:41 AM, tejretics wrote:
At 2/1/2016 7:45:42 AM, bsh1 wrote:

Obi wasn't lynched, because I unvoted prior to Rosalie's vote in page 4, and then Rosalie voted and you declared the game over.

Obi was lynched. Besides Kier's vote, which was already on Obi, here are the other votes on the lynch:

http://www.debate.org...
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http://www.debate.org...

Flex hammered in post 114. You unvoted in post 117. Thus, Obi was lynched.
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2/1/2016 6:09:29 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/1/2016 6:01:44 PM, TheFlex wrote:
I feel like I did better overall in DP2/DP3 three than I did in DP1.

This is certainly true. I mentioned a few things in the mafia PM as the game went on, but I think the best way for you to figure out how to improve as scum is to get a few town games under your belt. Once you know what to do as town, you can mimic/manipulate that as scum to improve your game.
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2/1/2016 7:08:33 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/1/2016 6:09:29 PM, Kierhein wrote:
At 2/1/2016 6:01:44 PM, TheFlex wrote:
I feel like I did better overall in DP2/DP3 three than I did in DP1.

This is certainly true. I mentioned a few things in the mafia PM as the game went on, but I think the best way for you to figure out how to improve as scum is to get a few town games under your belt. Once you know what to do as town, you can mimic/manipulate that as scum to improve your game.

Interestingly, that works both ways. It's easier to find the scum when you understand the mindset and incentives they have.