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Beginners' Mafia 48.2: DP5

Vaarka
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10/15/2016 12:23:59 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
LYNCHED LAST DP

Rouke - You are Lucan Valerius, a shop owner who serves little purpose to the story, only offering one side quest. Because of your barely useful role in the story, you are a Vanilla. You have no special abilities. You win with the town.

DIED IN THE NIGHT

Valosa - "You have committed crimes against Skyrim and her people. What say you in your defense?" - You are a Solitude Guard, known for keeping order in the capital kingdom. Your ability to keep outlaws in check and identify thieves makes you the Cop. Each night you may select another player. You will learn if that player wins with the Town (innocent) or not (guilty). You win with the town.

GRAVEYARD

Voice - Faida - Vanilla - Town
Tree - Brynjolf - odd-night Lookout - Mafia
Tej - Wylandriah - Vanilla - Town
Think - Cicero - Follower - Town
Rouke - Lucan Valerius - Vanilla - Town
Valosa - Solitude Guard - Cop - Town

LIVING PLAYERS

1. Disc (Breaking)
2. bsh1 (Flex)
3. Matt

With 3 players alive, it takes 2 votes to lynch.
The DP ends in 72 hours, or at 8:30 am, EST on 10/18/16.


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Discipulus_Didicit
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10/15/2016 2:12:51 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
I'm still alive? Interesting. VTL eachother now since you know you can't lynch me (since I am popular)
Cobalt - You could be scum too.
Matt - I suppose. But I also might not be.

Kiri - Yeah, I don't know what DD is doing.
Vaarka - He's doin'a thingy do

DD - The best advice most often goes unheeded.
Wise Man - KYS, DD.
DD - Case in point ^
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10/15/2016 3:29:43 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
I'm pretty sure DD is confirmed town now. The mods wouldn't key the game go up if it was impossible to win. Therefore VTL Bsh
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10/15/2016 3:56:37 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/15/2016 3:29:43 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:

I think any scum that chose to keep an unlynchable townie alive for LyLo must have been pretty certain that they knew how said townie would vote, what do you think?
Cobalt - You could be scum too.
Matt - I suppose. But I also might not be.

Kiri - Yeah, I don't know what DD is doing.
Vaarka - He's doin'a thingy do

DD - The best advice most often goes unheeded.
Wise Man - KYS, DD.
DD - Case in point ^
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10/15/2016 4:05:42 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/15/2016 3:56:37 PM, Discipulus_Didicit wrote:
At 10/15/2016 3:29:43 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:

I think any scum that chose to keep an unlynchable townie alive for LyLo must have been pretty certain that they knew how said townie would vote, what do you think?

That seems accurate. I'm honestly not sure why they killed Valosa...
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10/15/2016 4:25:01 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/15/2016 4:14:36 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
Lies - http://www.debate.org...

Lies? You mean by leaving himself off the list of uncopped people? He left me off too...

Actually I have an idea. How well do you know the theme?
Cobalt - You could be scum too.
Matt - I suppose. But I also might not be.

Kiri - Yeah, I don't know what DD is doing.
Vaarka - He's doin'a thingy do

DD - The best advice most often goes unheeded.
Wise Man - KYS, DD.
DD - Case in point ^
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10/15/2016 4:29:31 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/15/2016 4:25:01 PM, Discipulus_Didicit wrote:
At 10/15/2016 4:14:36 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
Lies - http://www.debate.org...

Lies? You mean by leaving himself off the list of uncopped people? He left me off too...

Actually I have an idea. How well do you know the theme?

I've played Skyrim a bit, and anything I don't know i'll wiki up.
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10/15/2016 5:26:28 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/15/2016 4:29:31 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
At 10/15/2016 4:25:01 PM, Discipulus_Didicit wrote:
At 10/15/2016 4:14:36 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
Lies - http://www.debate.org...

Lies? You mean by leaving himself off the list of uncopped people? He left me off too...

Actually I have an idea. How well do you know the theme?

I've played Skyrim a bit, and anything I don't know i'll wiki up.

Nevermind. Who did you target last night btw?
Cobalt - You could be scum too.
Matt - I suppose. But I also might not be.

Kiri - Yeah, I don't know what DD is doing.
Vaarka - He's doin'a thingy do

DD - The best advice most often goes unheeded.
Wise Man - KYS, DD.
DD - Case in point ^
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10/15/2016 5:45:12 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/15/2016 5:26:28 PM, Discipulus_Didicit wrote:
At 10/15/2016 4:29:31 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
At 10/15/2016 4:25:01 PM, Discipulus_Didicit wrote:
At 10/15/2016 4:14:36 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
Lies - http://www.debate.org...

Lies? You mean by leaving himself off the list of uncopped people? He left me off too...

Actually I have an idea. How well do you know the theme?

I've played Skyrim a bit, and anything I don't know i'll wiki up.

Nevermind. Who did you target last night btw?

No one, i'm Ascetic.
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10/15/2016 5:59:18 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/15/2016 4:06:25 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
Hang on. Did Valosa ever cop Bsh?

No he didn't. But Rouk was not targeted either.

I used my final shot last night, but my role failed. Your ascetic claim was also never confirmed, and so you must be the mafia roleblocker.
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10/15/2016 6:01:55 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/15/2016 5:59:18 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 10/15/2016 4:06:25 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
Hang on. Did Valosa ever cop Bsh?

No he didn't. But Rouk was not targeted either.

I used my final shot last night, but my role failed. Your ascetic claim was also never confirmed, and so you must be the mafia roleblocker.

Just to clarify in case it wasn't obvious, I protected Valo.
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10/15/2016 6:06:54 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/15/2016 5:59:18 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 10/15/2016 4:06:25 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
Hang on. Did Valosa ever cop Bsh?

No he didn't. But Rouk was not targeted either.

I used my final shot last night, but my role failed. Your ascetic claim was also never confirmed, and so you must be the mafia roleblocker.

Who did you use your shot on?

Also, I must be role blocker because no one wanted to confirm my claim? You were the one who said I wasn't fake claiming.
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10/15/2016 6:07:20 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/15/2016 6:01:55 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 10/15/2016 5:59:18 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 10/15/2016 4:06:25 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
Hang on. Did Valosa ever cop Bsh?

No he didn't. But Rouk was not targeted either.

I used my final shot last night, but my role failed. Your ascetic claim was also never confirmed, and so you must be the mafia roleblocker.

Just to clarify in case it wasn't obvious, I protected Valo.

Never mind
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10/15/2016 6:13:40 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/15/2016 6:06:54 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
At 10/15/2016 5:59:18 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 10/15/2016 4:06:25 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
Hang on. Did Valosa ever cop Bsh?

No he didn't. But Rouk was not targeted either.

I used my final shot last night, but my role failed. Your ascetic claim was also never confirmed, and so you must be the mafia roleblocker.

Who did you use your shot on?

Also, I must be role blocker because no one wanted to confirm my claim? You were the one who said I wasn't fake claiming.

Correction: I said it was unlikely that you were fake claiming such a confirmable role. However, you did claim at a point in the game where it was unlikely that your role would ever be targeted and confirmed. Investigative roles had been outed, and I would have been most probably protecting the investigators. So, all you had to do each night to keep your fake claim alive was to slowly kill off and roleblock the investigators. In light of POE, you must therefore have fake claimed, whether I thought it likely or unlikely last DP. And, given the above analysis, yours was a well-designed fake claim; plaudits.
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10/15/2016 6:13:47 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
This game is fairly straightforward at this point, I think. Matt's role has no confirmation--no one targeted Matt and so no one can confirm that Matt is indeed not targetable (ascetic). Matt claimed at a moment in the game where he was also unlikely to be targeted, and so it was not a bad fake claim choice.

Whether you find my scummy or not, at least there is some evidence which confirms my role (the non-NK). A roleblocker may have, from the mods' perspective, balanced out this game, by giving mafia a means to counter every major role (doc, follower, cop). It seems remarkably prescient that Matt would claim a role with a roleblocking ability.

I still think Matt's vote on Rouk last DP was suspect, and I still townread Disc, which, by POE, leaves me with Matt. So, even if everything else I said is wrong, Matt must be scum because Disc is not and I know I am not.
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10/15/2016 6:24:19 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
I'll be back online (much) later tonight. My day has been and will be pretty busy. Regardless, I've said my piece and cast my vote. Disc now just has to decide what he wants to do. If there's anything I need to weigh in on, I can do it when I get back online.
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10/15/2016 7:04:51 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/15/2016 6:39:17 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
Watch it turn out that DD was pulling the biggest con on us lol.

Well, it is true that my popular role was never tested ;)

That said I was just waiting for bsh to confirm my suspiscions. He has done so.

VTL bsh1
Cobalt - You could be scum too.
Matt - I suppose. But I also might not be.

Kiri - Yeah, I don't know what DD is doing.
Vaarka - He's doin'a thingy do

DD - The best advice most often goes unheeded.
Wise Man - KYS, DD.
DD - Case in point ^
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10/15/2016 7:06:48 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/15/2016 12:23:59 PM, Vaarka wrote:

I could have ended this DP on post four. Too late now though, let's see the endgame.
Cobalt - You could be scum too.
Matt - I suppose. But I also might not be.

Kiri - Yeah, I don't know what DD is doing.
Vaarka - He's doin'a thingy do

DD - The best advice most often goes unheeded.
Wise Man - KYS, DD.
DD - Case in point ^
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10/15/2016 7:07:09 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/15/2016 7:04:51 PM, Discipulus_Didicit wrote:
At 10/15/2016 6:39:17 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
Watch it turn out that DD was pulling the biggest con on us lol.

Well, it is true that my popular role was never tested ;)

That said I was just waiting for bsh to confirm my suspiscions. He has done so.

VTL bsh1

May I ask what tipped you off?
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10/15/2016 7:15:19 PM
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At 10/15/2016 7:07:09 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:

First there is everything I noticed and pointed out last DP. I was ready to VTL bsh for that alone but decided to test you a bit first, every word I said to you this DP was for that reason. You passed, obviously.

The final straw was when I put myself in scums shoes and asked myself what I would say in this situation, and bsh pretty much echoed my answer to myself.

So tell me, did town win?
Cobalt - You could be scum too.
Matt - I suppose. But I also might not be.

Kiri - Yeah, I don't know what DD is doing.
Vaarka - He's doin'a thingy do

DD - The best advice most often goes unheeded.
Wise Man - KYS, DD.
DD - Case in point ^
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10/15/2016 7:16:36 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/15/2016 7:15:19 PM, Discipulus_Didicit wrote:
At 10/15/2016 7:07:09 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:

First there is everything I noticed and pointed out last DP. I was ready to VTL bsh for that alone but decided to test you a bit first, every word I said to you this DP was for that reason. You passed, obviously.

The final straw was when I put myself in scums shoes and asked myself what I would say in this situation, and bsh pretty much echoed my answer to myself.

So tell me, did town win?

Well i'm town, so unless you're scum we won.
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10/15/2016 7:18:58 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/15/2016 7:16:36 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
Well i'm town, so unless you're scum we won.

Good.
Cobalt - You could be scum too.
Matt - I suppose. But I also might not be.

Kiri - Yeah, I don't know what DD is doing.
Vaarka - He's doin'a thingy do

DD - The best advice most often goes unheeded.
Wise Man - KYS, DD.
DD - Case in point ^
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10/15/2016 7:21:11 PM
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I've said my piece and cast my vote. Disc now just has to decide what he wants to do.

This sentence had me nervous, for reasons stated in post 4. Like I said, exactly what I would say if I was scum.
Cobalt - You could be scum too.
Matt - I suppose. But I also might not be.

Kiri - Yeah, I don't know what DD is doing.
Vaarka - He's doin'a thingy do

DD - The best advice most often goes unheeded.
Wise Man - KYS, DD.
DD - Case in point ^
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10/15/2016 7:36:50 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
Congrats. *e-handshake* I felt very much like I was dealt a losing hand in this game upon replacing in.

However, Disc, my criticisms of your voting habits last DP were entirely genuine.

I'll wait to post any further thoughts in the endgame.
Live Long and Prosper

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10/15/2016 7:44:35 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

bsh1 (2/2) - Matt, DD

bsh1 was lynched! He was guilty!
Endgame will be up soon (whenever that happens to be).
You're probably thinking right now "haha I'm a genius". Well you're not -Valkrin

inferno: "I don't know, are you attracted to women?"
ButterCatX: "No, Vaarka is mine!"

All hail scum Vaarka, wielder of the bastard sword, smiter of nations, destroyer of spiders -VOT

"Vaarka, I've been thinking about this for a long time now," (pulls out small box made of macaroni) "W-will you be my noodle buddy?" -Kirigaya
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10/15/2016 8:01:11 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/15/2016 7:44:35 PM, Vaarka wrote:
OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

bsh1 (2/2) - Matt, DD

bsh1 was lynched! He was guilty!
Endgame will be up soon (whenever that happens to be).


hurry and make the endgame pls