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Sieben
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6/28/2011 1:29:41 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
If you don't know what a CKD is, do not post in this thread. Looking them up on wikipedia doesn't count.

If you think CKDs are unnecessary because "reasonable" diets are "work just fine", do not post in this thread.

I'm reading Lyle McDonald's UD2 and Mauro Di Pasquale's Metabolic diet among others. I've noted that Hugo Rivera has experimented with and endorsed a CKD, but can't find any other athletes who've tried it.

Anyone have any personal experience or supplementary resources?
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7/2/2011 11:48:19 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/30/2011 5:21:05 PM, Cliff.Stamp wrote:
What are your training goals/objectives?

Depends on the time of year. I pursue most favorable changes in body composition.
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7/2/2011 6:30:19 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Amusing, posts are not going through.

I was friends with a Dr. Casey Butt in my grad work, though he was not a Dr. at the time. I know he used KD with and without the C, though he had no interest in cardio, hence the question. He was focused on strength/size and cycling down to < 10% BF.

I lost touch with him when I moved to India and he graduated and was forced to get a job IRL. Before that he had a website and publication and was writing for Hardgainer and the like. But a wife, job and an electrical engineer for GM in Detroit (motor control) soon found dominance.

That is who I would ask for a quantitative opinion on nutrition or other aspect of strength/size gain related matters. He should not be hard to track down.
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7/2/2011 7:57:28 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I'll read some papers of his then. Its hard to find "natural" advice because the mainstream is permanently infected with the 80's bodybuilding scene. 10 reps for 4 sets. Small frequent high protein/carb low fat meals. It works but there are a lot of things wrong with it. Anabolic hormones fix almost all those problems if you supplement, but most people don't.
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7/2/2011 8:06:10 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
He is natural, or was then. I believe he did a stack early on but moved on to natural training for purely personal reasons. He did use ephedrine and similar but drew the line on anabolics as he saw, as many people do, a difference between something which provides drive vs something which can on its own cause direct hypertrophy. If you live in the US I would just give him a call. He used to provide personal diet/training consulting again he stopped that simply due to time when he married and went to work for GM, but a call isn't out of the question.