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Joseph_Mengele
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10/6/2011 10:18:47 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I often hear people saying that weed is safer on the body opposed to tobacco. The same people also say that weed is a little bit bad for you. If one were to smoke weed through an object such as a bong in which the user is inhaling water vapor instead, wouldn't that mean that smoking in that sense is nearly harmless to your health?
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10/6/2011 11:25:43 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Over 5 joints a day for over 10 years is associated with some neurological abnormality, unlikely to be an effect of smoke.

With more reasonable use, meh, probably not much in terms of health issues. As long as there aren't unhealthy munchies around.
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10/7/2011 4:50:42 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/6/2011 11:25:43 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
Over 5 joints a day for over 10 years is associated with some neurological abnormality, unlikely to be an effect of smoke.

hmm... source?
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10/7/2011 4:55:46 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
http://www.cmaj.ca...
IQ decline (only for use as described, light use is actually negatively correlated with IQ decline).

http://www.newscientist.com...
This is the source for the earlier claim. Unfortunately, it's not longitudinal, which would really be helpful for something like this.
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10/7/2011 6:44:40 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/7/2011 4:55:46 AM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
http://www.cmaj.ca...
IQ decline (only for use as described, light use is actually negatively correlated with IQ decline).

http://www.newscientist.com...
This is the source for the earlier claim. Unfortunately, it's not longitudinal, which would really be helpful for something like this.

Thanks man, really interesting, though hardly conclusive with the small sample sizes and all.

I'm a heavy cannabis smoker and while on a personal level I'm willing to accept it could well have adversely affected my ability to regulate emotions, I'm sceptical about it's potential detriment to my IQ, especially as I scored the highest I have on any test (140) when I took the facebook one while smoking a big fatty.

Inb4 "everyone probably gets 140 on the facebook IQ test", it shows the results of your friends who've taken it too.
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10/7/2011 6:46:29 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Oh yeah and I plan to switch to vapourising as soon as a quality, portable, affordable one comes on the market, hopefully I'll be able to give up tobacco then.
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10/7/2011 12:20:11 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I'm a heavy cannabis smoker
You smoke 5 joints a day?

Unfortunately your personal results on the facebook IQ test are even smaller samples than the studies. And shooting up cocaine in the short term is a stimulant, doesn't mean in the long term you'll end up with more or even equal stamina :P
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10/7/2011 12:35:48 PM
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I already vaporize via the vapor genie. It's a wooden pipe that has a filter and I inhale a mist. It actually saves a lot of weed and a gram can last a while since very little is packed into the pipe, and out of that pack that's like 2-3 highs.

lol @5 joints/day for 10 years. I take it that this theoretical being is going by "biblical days."
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10/7/2011 12:54:04 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
lol @5 joints/day for 10 years. I take it that this theoretical being is going by "biblical days."
Maybe they started with tobacco and didn't bother learning the different customs when they made the switch :P
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10/7/2011 12:56:12 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/7/2011 12:54:04 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
lol @5 joints/day for 10 years. I take it that this theoretical being is going by "biblical days."
Maybe they started with tobacco and didn't bother learning the different customs when they made the switch :P

If they started with tobacco, then they'd be doing 20+ a day.
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10/7/2011 12:59:42 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I will talk about this later, but it is spelled cannabis, not cannibus.
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10/7/2011 1:21:52 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
It is classified as 5 OR MORE Oreele.
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10/7/2011 3:34:31 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/7/2011 12:20:11 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:

You smoke 5 joints a day?

Yeah, probably a little more as an average over the last 17 years, but almost always mixed with tobacco, which is standard over here.

But what kind of precise measurement is a joint anyway? There are big fat joints and skinny little joints and of course what variety you put in said joint also makes a massive difference as well as whether you use tobacco or whatever.
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10/7/2011 10:09:04 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I smoke two joints in the morning, I smoke two joints at night
I smoke two joints in the afternoon, it makes me feel alright
I smoke two joints in time of peace, and two in time of war
I smoke two joints before I smoke two joints, and then I smoke two more
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10/7/2011 10:10:55 PM
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Anybody who thinks that inhaling burning plant matter is not bad for your health is not really thinking about this too deeply.
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10/7/2011 10:14:43 PM
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I take it they just have to guess and hope it averages out, as such people will be too stoned to measure.
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10/7/2011 11:35:42 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/7/2011 12:45:31 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Weed is GOOD for you.

At 10/7/2011 10:10:55 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Anybody who thinks that inhaling burning plant matter is not bad for your health is not really thinking about this too deeply.
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10/7/2011 11:56:44 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/7/2011 11:35:42 PM, Rockylightning wrote:
At 10/7/2011 12:45:31 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Weed is GOOD for you.

At 10/7/2011 10:10:55 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Anybody who thinks that inhaling burning plant matter is not bad for your health is not really thinking about this too deeply.
He could mean, like, magic <strikethrough>brownies</strikethrough> salad.
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10/8/2011 10:01:36 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/7/2011 11:35:42 PM, Rockylightning wrote:
At 10/7/2011 12:45:31 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Weed is GOOD for you.

At 10/7/2011 10:10:55 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Anybody who thinks that inhaling burning plant matter is not bad for your health is not really thinking about this too deeply.

Following common sense is the opposite of thinking deeply.
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10/8/2011 10:24:03 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Weed+bong+me+bob marley cd= a very good day. Therefore, weed is good. :)
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10/9/2011 11:18:58 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/9/2011 12:21:09 AM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
For a birthday present I got a gram of weed apparently dipped in codeine. Any experiences?

When I did drugs, I didn't do anything without weed.

Best drugs by far are the psychedelics. I never cared for opiates. I liked drugs that stimulated the head, not the body.
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10/10/2011 7:05:23 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/9/2011 12:21:09 AM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
For a birthday present I got a gram of weed apparently dipped in codeine. Any experiences?

YES! I have also had suckers laced with pills.
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10/10/2011 7:08:35 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/6/2011 10:18:47 PM, Joseph_Mengele wrote:
I often hear people saying that weed is safer on the body opposed to tobacco. The same people also say that weed is a little bit bad for you. If one were to smoke weed through an object such as a bong in which the user is inhaling water vapor instead, wouldn't that mean that smoking in that sense is nearly harmless to your health?

Although inhaling smoke can be harmful to your health, it IS true that it isn't as bad as tobacco. But, it you want to be safe, I would either vaporize it or cook it. Although I have smoked it for years and never had any issues. Here is a good website for cooking the bud, leaves, and seeds of the cannabis plant:
www.thecannabischef.com/
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10/10/2011 7:10:08 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/7/2011 12:35:48 PM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
I already vaporize via the vapor genie. It's a wooden pipe that has a filter and I inhale a mist. It actually saves a lot of weed and a gram can last a while since very little is packed into the pipe, and out of that pack that's like 2-3 highs.

lol @5 joints/day for 10 years. I take it that this theoretical being is going by "biblical days."

GOD I just said he should vape it. Haha, I guess great minds think alike.
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10/17/2011 3:14:33 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/7/2011 6:44:40 AM, feverish wrote:
At 10/7/2011 4:55:46 AM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
http://www.cmaj.ca...
IQ decline (only for use as described, light use is actually negatively correlated with IQ decline).

http://www.newscientist.com...
This is the source for the earlier claim. Unfortunately, it's not longitudinal, which would really be helpful for something like this.

Thanks man, really interesting, though hardly conclusive with the small sample sizes and all.

I'm a heavy cannabis smoker and while on a personal level I'm willing to accept it could well have adversely affected my ability to regulate emotions, I'm sceptical about it's potential detriment to my IQ, especially as I scored the highest I have on any test (140) when I took the facebook one while smoking a big fatty.

Inb4 "everyone probably gets 140 on the facebook IQ test", it shows the results of your friends who've taken it too.

HEAVY Marijuana users will have lower hippocampal gray matter volume and is correlated with a lowering of memory abilities over time.

The second link is a longitudinal study of before and after, so you may prefer that.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
http://www.cmaj.ca...

That said, a heavy aspirin user is at high risk for kidney disease.

http://www.nytimes.com...
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10/18/2011 7:35:10 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I fvcking love weed, but I don't delude myself into thinking it's physically healthy.
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