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Zaradi
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10/1/2012 1:52:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I'm in need of research for debate about pros and cons about universal health care, but if anyone already knows some of the specifics about what it would entail and facts that they can bring to the table, that would be amazing. What's good and what's bad about universal health care?
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lewis20
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10/1/2012 2:16:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Pros are that it helps people

Cons are that it hurts people
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10/1/2012 3:03:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/1/2012 2:16:44 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Pros are that it helps people

Cons are that it hurts people

Cool story brah.
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10/1/2012 3:13:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I believe it takes away the power of insurance/other agencies to screw you over. That's one good thing. Agencies literally hire people to look through all your forms to find the slightest fault that they save many off of. It's caused people to die.

I honestly don't care for the topic though.
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10/1/2012 4:25:34 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/1/2012 3:13:38 PM, phantom wrote:
I believe it takes away the power of insurance/other agencies to screw you over. That's one good thing. Agencies literally hire people to look through all your forms to find the slightest fault that they save many off of. It's caused people to die.

I honestly don't care for the topic though.

Yeah the only reason I'm looking at it is because it's going to be the LD topic for high school debate in November-December and I'm just trying to map out the vague details of it so that I can find some ethical argument to use since I don't feel like getting into the actual policy.
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10/1/2012 4:29:12 PM
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The site I liked using got canceled :(
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10/1/2012 4:47:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/1/2012 1:52:56 PM, Zaradi wrote:
I'm in need of research for debate about pros and cons about universal health care, but if anyone already knows some of the specifics about what it would entail and facts that they can bring to the table, that would be amazing. What's good and what's bad about universal health care?

Reason for the legislation: to help facilitate new medical technology into the market without collapsing it. That would be the primary pro.

Effect of the legislation: it raises taxes and increases national debt by billions. That would be the primary con.
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10/1/2012 6:26:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/1/2012 3:13:38 PM, phantom wrote:
I believe it takes away the power of insurance/other agencies to screw you over. That's one good thing. Agencies literally hire people to look through all your forms to find the slightest fault that they save money off of. It's caused people to die.

I honestly don't care for the topic though.

fixed.
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10/1/2012 6:53:21 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/1/2012 4:47:11 PM, Ren wrote:
At 10/1/2012 1:52:56 PM, Zaradi wrote:
I'm in need of research for debate about pros and cons about universal health care, but if anyone already knows some of the specifics about what it would entail and facts that they can bring to the table, that would be amazing. What's good and what's bad about universal health care?

Reason for the legislation: to help facilitate new medical technology into the market without collapsing it. That would be the primary pro.

Effect of the legislation: it raises taxes and increases national debt by billions. That would be the primary con.

That's helpful. Thanks.
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10/1/2012 6:57:26 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Universal health care + medical marijuana = free marijuana for everyone.

That is all you need to know.
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10/1/2012 7:47:26 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/1/2012 6:57:26 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Universal health care + medical marijuana = free marijuana for everyone.

That is all you need to know.

Anything that involved free weed is good in my book!
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lewis20
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10/1/2012 9:00:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/1/2012 3:13:38 PM, phantom wrote:
I believe it takes away the power of insurance/other agencies to screw you over.

By making you legally obligated to purchase their products? Don't think that somehow the govt getting involved is going to stop insurance companies from screwing over it's customers. A big draw for the law is that no one can be turned down for pre-existing conditions. Which is good if you have a pre-existing condition, bad if you don't because your health insurance costs are soaring.
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10/1/2012 9:06:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Here's another good one, kids up to 25 can stay on their parents plans which is nice. However when your family is paying a 5k premium and your deductible is 6k you can't afford to see a doctor anyway.
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