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GeoLaureate8
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12/9/2009 1:32:20 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
"I got Mercury injected into my body, what should I do?"

Hope there are no severe side effects. My dad and step-dad got it, and so far they're doing fine. But Mercury is a known neurotoxin and can have subtle effects. Just make sure you don't have too much in your system.
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12/9/2009 1:34:18 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 12/9/2009 1:32:20 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
"I got Mercury injected into my body, what should I do?"

Hope there are no severe side effects. My dad and step-dad got it, and so far they're doing fine. But Mercury is a known neurotoxin and can have subtle effects. Just make sure you don't have too much in your system.

Someone's not paranoid.
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12/9/2009 1:35:01 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 12/9/2009 1:25:24 PM, Nags wrote:
Are you serious? Suck it up.

Suck up basic motor skills hurting after a "beneficial" vaccine?
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12/9/2009 1:38:12 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 12/9/2009 1:34:18 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 12/9/2009 1:32:20 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
"I got Mercury injected into my body, what should I do?"

Hope there are no severe side effects. My dad and step-dad got it, and so far they're doing fine. But Mercury is a known neurotoxin and can have subtle effects. Just make sure you don't have too much in your system.

Someone's not paranoid.

It's called thimerosol, 50% Mercury. They put it in all adult/young adult swine flu vaccines as a preservative. But if they leave Mercury out of children swine flu vaccines, why can't they leave out the Mercury altogether?
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12/9/2009 1:40:05 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 12/9/2009 1:38:12 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
It's called thimerosol, 50% Mercury. They put it in all adult/young adult swine flu vaccines as a preservative. But if they leave Mercury out of children swine flu vaccines, why can't they leave out the Mercury altogether?

My guess is because children are the first in line for the shots, while the rest of the population gets it later - hence the preservative.
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12/9/2009 1:43:31 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 12/9/2009 1:40:05 PM, Volkov wrote:
At 12/9/2009 1:38:12 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
It's called thimerosol, 50% Mercury. They put it in all adult/young adult swine flu vaccines as a preservative. But if they leave Mercury out of children swine flu vaccines, why can't they leave out the Mercury altogether?

My guess is because children are the first in line for the shots, while the rest of the population gets it later - hence the preservative.

Actually we weren't first in line - Health workers (Obviously), but then Public sector workers was vaccinated. I guess we we're middle of the line, anyone could get it freely at their GP.
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12/9/2009 7:52:42 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Swine Flu's not available for the general populace in America yet... FDA.

They took so long trying to approve it and make sure there was enough for everybody that it passed through my area even before it was available to the high-risk groups.
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12/10/2009 9:16:13 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Huh? Really?
I thought Walgreens was selling vaccinations.
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12/10/2009 9:04:05 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Only for high risk groups.

Anyways, is the vaccination that is available to the public going to be circumnavigated by the mutation of the virus? Isn't there some new strand?
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12/10/2009 9:08:10 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/10/2009 9:04:05 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Only for high risk groups.

Anyways, is the vaccination that is available to the public going to be circumnavigated by the mutation of the virus? Isn't there some new strand?

No, not according to anything I've seen. Tamiflu apparently will work fine against this specific strand of H1N1 - it just isn't effective with (I believe) the regular seasonal flu.
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12/10/2009 9:17:10 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/10/2009 9:04:05 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Only for high risk groups.

Anyways, is the vaccination that is available to the public going to be circumnavigated by the mutation of the virus? Isn't there some new strand?

Since, when are homeless people high risk and important?
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12/10/2009 9:26:46 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/10/2009 9:17:10 PM, wonderwoman wrote:
Since, when are homeless people high risk and important?

You know, I think you're very negative not because you have any belief in the dictatorial and neglectful stuff you say, but because you know it shocks people to say such things. You're not like Cody who, for better or for worse, is an avid partisan with real beliefs. Such a shame.

Anyways, it is important for all, or at least a majority, of citizens to get the swine flu shot without deference to class, race, and etc., because of the nature of what the virus is - contagious. Allowing a segment of the population to contract the disease and die isn't a good way to limit the spread, nor is it beneficial in any way. To suggest otherwise is to be very ignorant of what it means to be a government, or apart of society.
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12/10/2009 9:34:43 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/10/2009 9:26:46 PM, Volkov wrote:
At 12/10/2009 9:17:10 PM, wonderwoman wrote:
Since, when are homeless people high risk and important?

You know, I think you're very negative not because you have any belief in the dictatorial and neglectful stuff you say, but because you know it shocks people to say such things. You're not like Cody who, for better or for worse, is an avid partisan with real beliefs. Such a shame.

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I think she's misguided, and tries to get to some objective "good" way of doing things, and that going beyond "humanity" to do so is misguided and silly, but I wouldn't say she doesn't have "real" beliefs.
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12/10/2009 9:37:10 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/10/2009 9:34:43 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
I think she's misguided, and tries to get to some objective "good" way of doing things, and that going beyond "humanity" to do so is misguided and silly, but I wouldn't say she doesn't have "real" beliefs.

I have not seen any posts to the contrary of my opinion, but if she wishes to prove me wrong, I'd be more than glad to concede.
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12/15/2009 10:57:44 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
I got my swine flu vaccine months ago. (college campuses)
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12/15/2009 11:27:14 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/15/2009 10:44:08 AM, alto2osu wrote:
Swine flu = most obnoxious health hype in the media right now.

Amen.
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12/15/2009 11:37:03 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/15/2009 11:27:14 AM, Reasoning wrote:
At 12/15/2009 10:44:08 AM, alto2osu wrote:
Swine flu = most obnoxious health hype in the media right now.

Amen.

Thirded. There's almost no difference between swine flu and the regular seasonal flu in terms of how dangerous it is.
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12/15/2009 11:40:28 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
If I have my stats right, the "seasonal" flu (if you can call it that, since "it" is nothing more than an epidemiological projection that begins as hundreds of viruses) is more deadly than H1N1. Furthermore, vaccines are not magical. They are 80% ineffective at preventing the illness. I mean, this is purposeful, but we had a flu vaccine clinic at my high school (I declined, though as a staff member I was eligible). The amount of misinformation surrounding H1N1, its accompanying vaccine, and even vaccination processes in general was appalling...nearly as appalling as the size of the queue. :|
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12/15/2009 11:50:40 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/15/2009 11:40:28 AM, alto2osu wrote:
They are 80% ineffective at preventing the illness.

That is a lie peddled by people who are anti-vaccine and pro-let-everyone-die-needless-deaths.

Strep vaccines are 50-80% effective - http://www.sciencedirect.com...

CDC cites researchers saying that "... influenza vaccines can be expected to reduce laboratory-confirmed influenza by approximately 70% to 90% in healthy adults <65 years of age." http://www.cdc.gov...

Vaccines work; stupidity, and listening to stupid people, does not.
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12/15/2009 11:52:39 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
I heard the government is purposely injecting the virus into the vaccine for population control purposes

*Waits for Geo to bandwagon*
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12/15/2009 11:59:14 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/15/2009 11:50:40 AM, Volkov wrote:
At 12/15/2009 11:40:28 AM, alto2osu wrote:
They are 80% ineffective at preventing the illness.

That is a lie peddled by people who are anti-vaccine and pro-let-everyone-die-needless-deaths.

Strep vaccines are 50-80% effective - http://www.sciencedirect.com...

CDC cites researchers saying that "... influenza vaccines can be expected to reduce laboratory-confirmed influenza by approximately 70% to 90% in healthy adults <65 years of age." http://www.cdc.gov...

Vaccines work; stupidity, and listening to stupid people, does not.

Sigh...you totally misinterpreted the purpose of citing that, and it isn't a misrepresentation of fact. First of all, strep is not flu. Second of all, though the H1N1 vaccine is ineffective at actually preventing symptoms, it is HIGHLY effective at regulating the severity of those symptoms, which is what it is meant to do in the first place. That's how it is expected by the manufacturer, the CDC, the FDA, blah blah blah blah blah to work. Notice that I said that its ineffectiveness was expected.

I receive vaccines when I find it necessary. I don't subscribe to any nonsense about vaccines causing autism or any crap like that. However, on the other side of the coin, it's the general media freak out over what is NOT a serious world health threat that is causing the most serious problems and misinformation spread.
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12/15/2009 12:21:09 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/15/2009 11:52:39 AM, johngriswald wrote:
I heard the government is purposely injecting the virus into the vaccine for population control purposes

*Waits for Geo to bandwagon*

I'm not sure if anyone is aware of this, but the H1N1 vaccine was patented about a year before the swine flu outbreak. That should tell you enough right there.

Also, am I the only one who is concerned about the mercury in vaccines? Is it safe to inject small amounts of mercury in your system? I hope so because I have family who got it.
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12/15/2009 12:37:10 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/15/2009 12:21:09 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 12/15/2009 11:52:39 AM, johngriswald wrote:
I heard the government is purposely injecting the virus into the vaccine for population control purposes

*Waits for Geo to bandwagon*

I'm not sure if anyone is aware of this, but the H1N1 vaccine was patented about a year before the swine flu outbreak. That should tell you enough right there.

Gasp! The government is responsible for this outbreak and its all just a profit making scheme!
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12/15/2009 12:43:01 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 12/15/2009 12:37:10 PM, johngriswald wrote:
At 12/15/2009 12:21:09 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:

I'm not sure if anyone is aware of this, but the H1N1 vaccine was patented about a year before the swine flu outbreak. That should tell you enough right there.

Gasp! The government is responsible for this outbreak and its all just a profit making scheme!

Profit? No, they control the Federal Reserve. They're not worried about money. You were right the first time about population control. Look up the Global 2000 Report.
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12/15/2009 1:03:52 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
First of all, cursory research of thimerosal reveal that the only reason it was phased out of vaccines around 2001 was due to an unfounded scare involving vaccines causing autism. Extensive studies since have disproved this link entirely. It isn't like injecting a syringe full of pure mercury into your body, either. Thimerosal is literally found in trace amounts, and really only in flu vaccines, and is a product tested and approved by the FDA for use as a preservative. Not only that, but thimerosal is highly diluted. It's about half mercury.

Translation: pretty much zero actual danger. However, there are thimerosal-free H1N1 vaccines available on request.