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6/28/2010 2:36:03 PM
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I'm seriously considering it. What do you think about it personally and what are some health benefits/risks that you may know are associated with it?
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6/28/2010 2:38:07 PM
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At 6/28/2010 2:36:03 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I'm seriously considering it. What do you think about it personally and what are some health benefits/risks that you may know are associated with it?

what brought this about?
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6/28/2010 2:40:14 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/28/2010 2:37:25 PM, Denote wrote:
May I ask what your motivation is?

The usual reasons. Animals, environment, health.
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6/28/2010 2:41:03 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/28/2010 2:36:03 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I'm seriously considering it. What do you think about it personally and what are some health benefits/risks that you may know are associated with it?

If you work out it sucks because there is no real good protein. But on the other hand you will have superior plumbing.
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6/28/2010 2:42:17 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
"What I am doing is going along with the fact that I live in a society where meat eating is accepted as the norm, and it requires a level of social courage which I haven't yet produced to break out of that. It's a little bit like the position which many people would have held a couple of hundred years ago over slavery. Where lots of people felt morally uneasy about slavery but went along with it because the whole economy of the South depended upon slavery."

~ Richard Dawkins
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6/28/2010 2:42:26 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/28/2010 2:40:14 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:37:25 PM, Denote wrote:
May I ask what your motivation is?

The usual reasons. Animals, environment, health.

I couldn't imagine living a lifestyle of a vegatarian. Meat is almost a part of my daily food intake. It's filling, provides the body with protein, iron, etc.

EAT MEAT!
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6/28/2010 2:42:40 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Lack of protein is one. This may also lead to lack of muscle growth too. Are you considering veganism, vegetarianism, or some other form I haven't heard of?
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6/28/2010 2:43:23 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/28/2010 2:41:03 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:36:03 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I'm seriously considering it. What do you think about it personally and what are some health benefits/risks that you may know are associated with it?

If you work out it sucks because there is no real good protein. But on the other hand you will have superior plumbing.

Do you know how I can substantial protein besides meat and pills?
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6/28/2010 2:44:34 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/28/2010 2:43:23 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:41:03 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:36:03 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I'm seriously considering it. What do you think about it personally and what are some health benefits/risks that you may know are associated with it?

If you work out it sucks because there is no real good protein. But on the other hand you will have superior plumbing.

Do you know how I can substantial protein besides meat and pills?

Protein drinks. HIgh in calories though. What's the point of all this?
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6/28/2010 2:44:41 PM
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At 6/28/2010 2:42:26 PM, studentathletechristian8 wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:40:14 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:37:25 PM, Denote wrote:
May I ask what your motivation is?

The usual reasons. Animals, environment, health.

I couldn't imagine living a lifestyle of a vegatarian. Meat is almost a part of my daily food intake. It's filling, provides the body with protein, iron, etc.

EAT MEAT!

I used to think the same exact way. I would think to myself that it's a noble cause but there's just no way I could possibly do it, being obsessed with meat.
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6/28/2010 2:44:54 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/28/2010 2:43:23 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:41:03 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:36:03 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I'm seriously considering it. What do you think about it personally and what are some health benefits/risks that you may know are associated with it?

If you work out it sucks because there is no real good protein. But on the other hand you will have superior plumbing.

Do you know how I can substantial protein besides meat and pills?

Protein shakes. Something tells me you're attention whoring right now.
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6/28/2010 2:45:21 PM
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At 6/28/2010 2:42:40 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Lack of protein is one. This may also lead to lack of muscle growth too. Are you considering veganism, vegetarianism, or some other form I haven't heard of?

Vegetarianism that allows fish.
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6/28/2010 2:45:47 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/28/2010 2:40:14 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:37:25 PM, Denote wrote:
May I ask what your motivation is?

The usual reasons. Animals

You're an Anarchists, but you think animism have rights?

environment

You do know cows produce the most methane? Killing them, and being able to breed them to possibly produce less, is a better option imo if you want to he the environment.

Also, I'm not to sure on this, but I'd say it requires less land to produce cattle than grow crops, which would lead obviously to less trees.

health.

There's negative health effects of meat?

If you're doing this to look cooler, or be somehow a better philosopher, then just don't.
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6/28/2010 2:46:02 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/28/2010 2:45:21 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:42:40 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Lack of protein is one. This may also lead to lack of muscle growth too. Are you considering veganism, vegetarianism, or some other form I haven't heard of?

Vegetarianism that allows fish.

You would accept fish but reject REAL meat? Lol.
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6/28/2010 2:46:32 PM
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i don't eat any vegetables besides potatoes myself so i can't ever see myself being a veggie. i'm a farmer too so i'd just look like an idiot claiming it was immoral to eat meat.
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6/28/2010 2:47:02 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/28/2010 2:45:21 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:42:40 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Lack of protein is one. This may also lead to lack of muscle growth too. Are you considering veganism, vegetarianism, or some other form I haven't heard of?

Vegetarianism that allows fish.

Land animals have rights that sea animals don't? What about amphibians? Will you eat crocodile?
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6/28/2010 2:47:21 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/28/2010 2:44:54 PM, studentathletechristian8 wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:43:23 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:41:03 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:36:03 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I'm seriously considering it. What do you think about it personally and what are some health benefits/risks that you may know are associated with it?

If you work out it sucks because there is no real good protein. But on the other hand you will have superior plumbing.

Do you know how I can substantial protein besides meat and pills?

Protein shakes. Something tells me you're attention whoring right now.

?
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6/28/2010 2:48:06 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/28/2010 2:47:21 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:44:54 PM, studentathletechristian8 wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:43:23 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:41:03 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:36:03 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I'm seriously considering it. What do you think about it personally and what are some health benefits/risks that you may know are associated with it?

If you work out it sucks because there is no real good protein. But on the other hand you will have superior plumbing.

Do you know how I can substantial protein besides meat and pills?

Protein shakes. Something tells me you're attention whoring right now.

?

Sorry, that was meant for FREEDO.
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6/28/2010 2:48:45 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/28/2010 2:47:03 PM, FREEDO wrote:
They say eating meat plays the largest part in your carbon foot print.

I wrote:
You do know cows produce the most methane? Killing them, and being able to breed them to possibly produce less, is a better option imo if you want to help the environment.

Also, I'm not to sure on this, but I'd say it requires less land to produce cattle than grow crops, which would lead obviously to less trees.

Also, avoiding eating meat derived from cows has the same effect as becoming a veggie.
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6/28/2010 2:49:26 PM
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At 6/28/2010 2:47:02 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:45:21 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:42:40 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Lack of protein is one. This may also lead to lack of muscle growth too. Are you considering veganism, vegetarianism, or some other form I haven't heard of?

Vegetarianism that allows fish.

Land animals have rights that sea animals don't? What about amphibians? Will you eat crocodile?

Doctors highly recommend fish as a part of your diet.
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6/28/2010 2:50:52 PM
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At 6/28/2010 2:48:45 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:47:03 PM, FREEDO wrote:
They say eating meat plays the largest part in your carbon foot print.

I wrote:
You do know cows produce the most methane? Killing them, and being able to breed them to possibly produce less, is a better option imo if you want to help the environment.

Also, I'm not to sure on this, but I'd say it requires less land to produce cattle than grow crops, which would lead obviously to less trees.

Also, avoiding eating meat derived from cows has the same effect as becoming a veggie.

I could also choose to only eat things which are organic, which has huge health benefits. I'm not sure about it all yet.
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6/28/2010 2:51:33 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/28/2010 2:50:52 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:48:45 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:47:03 PM, FREEDO wrote:
They say eating meat plays the largest part in your carbon foot print.

I wrote:
You do know cows produce the most methane? Killing them, and being able to breed them to possibly produce less, is a better option imo if you want to help the environment.

Also, I'm not to sure on this, but I'd say it requires less land to produce cattle than grow crops, which would lead obviously to less trees.

Also, avoiding eating meat derived from cows has the same effect as becoming a veggie.

I could also choose to only eat things which are organic, which has huge health benefits. I'm not sure about it all yet.

Cutting out junk food has huge health benefits, not cutting out meat.
Pizza. I have enormous respect for Pizza.
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6/28/2010 2:52:17 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/28/2010 2:49:26 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:47:02 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:45:21 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:42:40 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Lack of protein is one. This may also lead to lack of muscle growth too. Are you considering veganism, vegetarianism, or some other form I haven't heard of?

Vegetarianism that allows fish.

Land animals have rights that sea animals don't? What about amphibians? Will you eat crocodile?

Doctors highly recommend fish as a part of your diet.

Wait, you think eating meat is bad for you? *facepalm* take a science class
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6/28/2010 2:52:40 PM
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A study from the Loma Linda University has found that vegetarians live about seven years longer, and vegans live about 15 years longer than meat eaters. These studies are further supported by the Chinese Health Project (the largest population study on diet and health to date). They found Chinese people who eat the least amount of fat and animal products have the lowest risk of cancer, heart attack and other diseases.
Further proof comes from a British research that tracked 6,000 and 5,000 meat eaters for 12 years to find that vegetarians were 40 percent less likely to die from cancer during that time and 20 percent less likely to die from other diseases.
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6/28/2010 2:53:55 PM
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At 6/28/2010 2:52:40 PM, FREEDO wrote:
A study from the Loma Linda University has found that vegetarians live about seven years longer, and vegans live about 15 years longer than meat eaters. These studies are further supported by the Chinese Health Project (the largest population study on diet and health to date). They found Chinese people who eat the least amount of fat and animal products have the lowest risk of cancer, heart attack and other diseases.
Further proof comes from a British research that tracked 6,000 and 5,000 meat eaters for 12 years to find that vegetarians were 40 percent less likely to die from cancer during that time and 20 percent less likely to die from other diseases.

Depends what meat those meat eaters were eating.
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6/28/2010 2:54:04 PM
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Vegetables are the ultimate source for fiber, which pushes waste out of the body. Meat contains no fiber. Studies done at Harvard and Brigham Women's Hospital found that people who ate a high-fiber diet had a 42 percent lower risk of diverticulitis. People who eat vegetable rich diets also tend to have fewer incidences of constipation, hemorrhoids and spastic colon.
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6/28/2010 2:54:59 PM
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At 6/28/2010 2:53:55 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 6/28/2010 2:52:40 PM, FREEDO wrote:
A study from the Loma Linda University has found that vegetarians live about seven years longer, and vegans live about 15 years longer than meat eaters. These studies are further supported by the Chinese Health Project (the largest population study on diet and health to date). They found Chinese people who eat the least amount of fat and animal products have the lowest risk of cancer, heart attack and other diseases.
Further proof comes from a British research that tracked 6,000 and 5,000 meat eaters for 12 years to find that vegetarians were 40 percent less likely to die from cancer during that time and 20 percent less likely to die from other diseases.

Depends what meat those meat eaters were eating.

*glare*
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