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8/25/2012 12:09:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Name your favorite battle in history, which ever battle gets the most votes will be crowned the best battle ever

I cast my vote for the Battle of Stalingrad
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8/25/2012 12:14:11 PM
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At 8/25/2012 12:09:48 PM, imabench wrote:
Name your favorite battle in history, which ever battle gets the most votes will be crowned the best battle ever

I cast my vote for the Battle of Stalingrad

Seconded.
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8/25/2012 2:04:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Battle of Thermopylae.
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8/25/2012 7:02:02 PM
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2 for Stalingrad
1 for Thermopylae
1 for Austerlitz
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8/25/2012 9:42:04 PM
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2 for Stalingrad
1 for Thermopylae
1 for Austerlitz
1 for Vienna
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8/26/2012 11:11:11 PM
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Can I have two?

Thermopylae
Waterloo

If only one, I choose Waterloo
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8/26/2012 11:25:30 PM
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2 for Stalingrad
2 for the Revolution of Ima's
1 for Thermopylae
1 for Austerlitz
1 for Vienna
1 for Gettysburg
1 for Waterloo
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9/4/2012 9:12:14 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
What a good post from Imabench.

I'm late pitching in, but I will anway.

One problem pops up when we consider this subject: which of these battles achieved inevitable outcomes? Which actually changed the course of history? The Normandy invasion on D-Day, and Waterloo, for example, could have been "lost" without changing the final outcome of that war. The same is true for Gettysburg, and the battle of the Alamo (A loss to the Texans, but a win for the Mexican Army).

In this light, the USSR had already "beaten" Hitler by D-Day, – although the skinny man with the big hat certainly still had some fight in his armies.

Similarly, when Alaric sacked Rome in 410 CE, he simply put an end to the sad joke that the Roman state had become in the West. The same can be said for Mehmet's conquest of Constantinople in 1453. The destruction of the Axis, the Confederate States of America, Rome, Constantinople and Napoleon were all largely unavoidable by the time these battles occurred.

The same cannot be said of Stalingrad – the battle that arguably played the most immediate role in our lives today. I will agree that this battle is at least very important.

Other battles that are often overlooked in lists like this:
-The Battle of Trenton: when Washington crossed the Delaware on Christmas morning, attacking and defeating a larger and better equipped German force that was trapping his army until spring. This battle, if lost, would have removed the American recourse to war in winning our independence - because Wahington would have remained trapped and cornered. We might still have won our independence, but it would not be have been a result of martial force.

-The Battle of San Jacinto: This battle, a surprise attack on the better trained Mexican army by General Sam Houston, won Texas its independence. This new nation was later annexed into the USA, triggering the Mexican American War, in which the USA became a nation that spanned the entire continent. Had Sam Houston lost this battle, America today would end at the Louisiana Territory. Mexico would have enjoyed the Gold Rush, and may today be a wealthier, and larger, nation than the USA.

-The Battle of Milvian Bridge – This battle secured control of the Roman Empire under Constantine the Great, who attributed his victory to divine intervention from the Christian god. His conversion led to the decision to make the Roman Empire Christian – thus elevating this formerly Oriental Mystery Cult into a worldwide religion. This single battle, if lost, likely would have prevented Constantine's conversion – and only Roman scholars and historians might have ever heard of Christians.

As it is my understanding that the Battle of Milvian Bridge was the single most important cause of Rome becoming a Christian nation, I am forced to say that this battle had the most impact on our lives today.
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9/5/2012 2:34:23 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Easily the Battle of Salamis. The battle ensured that the Persian invasion of Greece failed, with the smaller Athenian navy crushing the larger Persian navy. The Persians were forced to take most of their forces and leave mainland Greece or face being cut off from retreat back to Persia. It secured the survival of Western civilization as we know it.
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9/11/2012 6:22:27 PM
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The Battle of Marathon

Western civilization, freedom, almost nothing about our way of life would have occurred if the Greeks didn't win that battle, and it's practically a miracle they did.
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9/11/2012 6:59:47 PM
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At 9/11/2012 6:22:27 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
The Battle of Marathon

Western civilization, freedom, almost nothing about our way of life would have occurred if the Greeks didn't win that battle, and it's practically a miracle they did.

Interesting point. However, it supposes that such things as "freedom" might be too flimsy to develop alongside Persian rule. This is hasty.

An argument could be made that, as an annex within the Persian Empire, the concept of democracy might have spread worldwide - not just in Greece. Worldwide, or at least this concept might have infected a large portion of the Persian world.
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9/11/2012 7:29:01 PM
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At 9/11/2012 7:27:51 PM, Veridas wrote:
Operation Overlord.

Yeah, D-Day did have the most awesome code name.
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9/11/2012 7:32:25 PM
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Hannibal's failed attempt to take Rome. If that would have gone through, Rome would have probably fallen, and Carthage would be the major player in the Mediterranean world, and the course of (western) history could have gone differently.
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9/11/2012 7:38:40 PM
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At 9/11/2012 7:29:01 PM, Frederick53 wrote:
At 9/11/2012 7:27:51 PM, Veridas wrote:
Operation Overlord.

Yeah, D-Day did have the most awesome code name.

Guess what my name translates to.
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9/11/2012 7:42:45 PM
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2 for Stalingrad
2 for D-Day
2 for the Revolution of Ima's
1 for Thermopylae
1 for Austerlitz
1 for Vienna
1 for Gettysburg
1 for Waterloo
1 for the Battle of Milvian Bridge
1 for the Battle of Hastings
1 for the Battle of Salamis
1 for Battle of Cannae
1 for the battle of Leipzig
1 for Marathon
1 for the Carthagian seige of Rome
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9/11/2012 7:43:26 PM
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At 9/11/2012 7:38:40 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 9/11/2012 7:29:01 PM, Frederick53 wrote:
At 9/11/2012 7:27:51 PM, Veridas wrote:
Operation Overlord.

Yeah, D-Day did have the most awesome code name.

Guess what my name translates to.

Oh that's right! Overlord in German. I have a friend who's obsessed with the history of Nazi Germany, he's told me that so many times. He's also told me that wassermere translates to water-sea...
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9/11/2012 9:38:29 PM
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At 9/11/2012 7:43:26 PM, Frederick53 wrote:
At 9/11/2012 7:38:40 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 9/11/2012 7:29:01 PM, Frederick53 wrote:
At 9/11/2012 7:27:51 PM, Veridas wrote:
Operation Overlord.

Yeah, D-Day did have the most awesome code name.

Guess what my name translates to.

Oh that's right! Overlord in German. I have a friend who's obsessed with the history of Nazi Germany, he's told me that so many times. He's also told me that wassermere translates to water-sea...

Yeah, German tend to make stuff sound bad@$$, even when it sounds weird. I was just typing random words into the translator and got this. Thought it was epic, adopted it.
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9/11/2012 9:38:42 PM
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At 8/26/2012 7:23:33 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 8/26/2012 7:10:40 PM, Viper-King wrote:
The Revolution of the Ima's.
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10/13/2013 5:40:45 PM
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At 8/26/2012 7:10:40 PM, Viper-King wrote:
The Revolution of the Ima's.
I second that.
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10/13/2013 8:04:28 PM
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At 10/13/2013 5:40:45 PM, kawaii_crazy wrote:
At 8/26/2012 7:10:40 PM, Viper-King wrote:
The Revolution of the Ima's.
I second that.

you dont even know what it is
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