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Irony of revolution.

suttichart.denpruektham
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4/6/2013 1:12:17 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Why do we celebrated French Revolution while at the same time condemning the Khmer Rouge?

Both is an act of robbery, massive massacre of political dissidents, end in massive defeat, and did so in the name of the people?
Skepsikyma
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4/6/2013 1:54:40 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Many people don't celebrate the French Revolution; it's actually pretty widely seen as an example of an ultimately failed revolution. Most of them end up that way, sadly enough.

"The slave begins by demanding justice and ends by wanting to wear a crown. He must dominate in his turn."
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suttichart.denpruektham
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4/6/2013 2:57:34 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/6/2013 1:54:40 PM, Skepsikyma wrote:
Many people don't celebrate the French Revolution; it's actually pretty widely seen as an example of an ultimately failed revolution. Most of them end up that way, sadly enough.

"The slave begins by demanding justice and ends by wanting to wear a crown. He must dominate in his turn."
- Albert Camus -

Still somebody did, and at the same time condemned the rouge. That's what I found to be irony.
Smithereens
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4/9/2013 4:02:52 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/6/2013 1:54:40 PM, Skepsikyma wrote:
Many people don't celebrate the French Revolution; it's actually pretty widely seen as an example of an ultimately failed revolution. Most of them end up that way, sadly enough.

"The slave begins by demanding justice and ends by wanting to wear a crown. He must dominate in his turn."
- Albert Camus -

Bastille day is one of the biggest Festivals on the French Calender and Is celebrated by much of Europe including countries far away like Australia and Polynesia. Not that many Australians celebrate it, but it is a very very big festival on the calender. Just because your country doesn't celebrate it doesn't mean there aren't any other countries in the world.
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Skepsikyma
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4/9/2013 9:24:11 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/9/2013 4:02:52 AM, Smithereens wrote:
At 4/6/2013 1:54:40 PM, Skepsikyma wrote:
Many people don't celebrate the French Revolution; it's actually pretty widely seen as an example of an ultimately failed revolution. Most of them end up that way, sadly enough.

"The slave begins by demanding justice and ends by wanting to wear a crown. He must dominate in his turn."
- Albert Camus -

Bastille day is one of the biggest Festivals on the French Calender and Is celebrated by much of Europe including countries far away like Australia and Polynesia. Not that many Australians celebrate it, but it is a very very big festival on the calender. Just because your country doesn't celebrate it doesn't mean there aren't any other countries in the world.

The celebration of Bastille day doesn't mean that the French Revolution was a success. What is celebrated is the overthrow of a tyrannical king by the people, not the rather nasty, flawed, and violent system which replaced monarchy. I think that people see the French revolution as a turning point, despite it being an ultimate failure.
"The Collectivist experiment is thoroughly suited (in appearance at least) to the Capitalist society which it proposes to replace. It works with the existing machinery of Capitalism, talks and thinks in the existing terms of Capitalism, appeals to just those appetites which Capitalism has aroused, and ridicules as fantastic and unheard-of just those things in society the memory of which Capitalism has killed among men wherever the blight of it has spread."
- Hilaire Belloc -
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4/9/2013 11:24:19 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I have always had a great interest in the revolution. I felt so much was going right, but then it went overboard. In the end, it started with a king and ended with an emperor.
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4/10/2013 7:17:41 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/9/2013 11:24:19 PM, AStevenson wrote:
I have always had a great interest in the revolution. I felt so much was going right, but then it went overboard. In the end, it started with a king and ended with an emperor.

The problem was probably in the acceptance of violence and brutality by the leaders of it.
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