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Cermank
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9/15/2013 12:08:10 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
...get mentioned in history books?

I just came to know about the sacred band of thabes, which was an troop of gay soldiers that were lovers too.

According to Plutarch, the 300 hand-picked men were chosen by Gorgidas purely for ability and merit, regardless of social class.[17] It was composed of 150 pederastic male couples,[15] each pair consisting of an older erast"s ("lover") and a younger er"menos ("beloved").[18] Athenaeus of Naucratis also records the Sacred Band as being composed of "lovers and their favorites, thus indicating the dignity of the god Eros in that they embrace a glorious death in preference to a dishonorable and reprehensible life";[9] while Polyaenus describes the Sacred Band as being composed of men "devoted to each other by mutual obligations of love".[7] The origin of the "sacred" appellation of the Sacred Band is unexplained by Dinarchus and other historians. But Plutarch claims that it was due to an exchange of sacred vows between lover and beloved at the shrine of Iolaus (one of the lovers of Hercules) at Thebes. He also tangentially mentions Plato's characterization of the lover as a "friend inspired of God".[17][18]
The Sacred Band was stationed in Cadmea as a standing force, likely as defense against future attempts by foreign forces to take the citadel.[6][19][20] It was occasionally referred to as the "City Band", due to their military training and housing being provided at the expense of the Boeotian polis.[6][18] Their regular training included wrestling and dance. The historian James G. DeVoto points out that Gorgidas previously served as a hipparch (cavalry officer), therefore equestrian training was also likely provided.[17] The exact ages of the unit's members are not recorded in ancient testimonies. However, comparing them with the Spartan elite unit Hippeis and the Athenian epheboi recruits, DeVoto estimates that trainees were inducted as full members to the Sacred Band at the ages of 20 to 21,[17] whereupon they were given a full set of armor by their erastai.[21] They likely ended their service at age 30.[17]

It was annihilated by Phillip II of Macedon in the battle of Chaeronea in 338 BC.
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9/15/2013 12:47:05 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Here's another one: Scientists revealed Wednesday that they have found the first solid archeological evidence that some of the earliest American colonists at Jamestown, Va., survived harsh conditions by turning to cannibalism.

For years, there have been tales of people in the first permanent English settlement in America eating dogs, cats, rats, mice, snakes and shoe leather to stave off starvation. There were also written accounts of settlers eating their own dead, but archeologists had been skeptical of those stories.

But now, the Smithsonian's National Museum of Natural History and archeologists from Jamestown are announcing the discovery of the bones of a 14-year-old girl that show clear signs that she was cannibalized. Evidence indicates clumsy chops to the body and head of the girl, who appears to have already been dead at the time.

Smithsonian forensic anthropologist Douglas Owsley said the human remains date back to a deadly winter known as the "starving time" in Jamestown from 1609 to 1610. Hundreds died during the period. Scientists have said the settlers likely arrived during the worst drought in 800 years, bringing severe food shortages for the 6,000 people who lived at Jamestown between 1607 and 1625.
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9/15/2013 1:34:39 AM
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9/17/2013 11:32:29 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/15/2013 12:08:10 AM, Cermank wrote:
...get mentioned in history books?

I just came to know about the sacred band of thabes, which was an troop of gay soldiers that were lovers too.

According to Plutarch, the 300 hand-picked men were chosen by Gorgidas purely for ability and merit, regardless of social class.[17] It was composed of 150 pederastic male couples,[15] each pair consisting of an older erast"s ("lover") and a younger er"menos ("beloved").[18] Athenaeus of Naucratis also records the Sacred Band as being composed of "lovers and their favorites, thus indicating the dignity of the god Eros in that they embrace a glorious death in preference to a dishonorable and reprehensible life";[9] while Polyaenus describes the Sacred Band as being composed of men "devoted to each other by mutual obligations of love".[7] The origin of the "sacred" appellation of the Sacred Band is unexplained by Dinarchus and other historians. But Plutarch claims that it was due to an exchange of sacred vows between lover and beloved at the shrine of Iolaus (one of the lovers of Hercules) at Thebes. He also tangentially mentions Plato's characterization of the lover as a "friend inspired of God".[17][18]
The Sacred Band was stationed in Cadmea as a standing force, likely as defense against future attempts by foreign forces to take the citadel.[6][19][20] It was occasionally referred to as the "City Band", due to their military training and housing being provided at the expense of the Boeotian polis.[6][18] Their regular training included wrestling and dance. The historian James G. DeVoto points out that Gorgidas previously served as a hipparch (cavalry officer), therefore equestrian training was also likely provided.[17] The exact ages of the unit's members are not recorded in ancient testimonies. However, comparing them with the Spartan elite unit Hippeis and the Athenian epheboi recruits, DeVoto estimates that trainees were inducted as full members to the Sacred Band at the ages of 20 to 21,[17] whereupon they were given a full set of armor by their erastai.[21] They likely ended their service at age 30.[17]

It was annihilated by Phillip II of Macedon in the battle of Chaeronea in 338 BC.

I didn't know that there was an army of gay soldiers, but I'm not really surprised, because I knew that a lot of the Spartans were lovers. It's also interesting to know that Phillip II of Macedon (who annihilated them) was bisexual, and his son, Alexander was so femme that he had to send him away to a military school to toughen him up.

They must of done a good job of it, because then Alexander pretty much attacked everybody with his army after that.
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9/17/2013 12:42:09 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/15/2013 12:47:05 AM, Cermank wrote:
Here's another one: Scientists revealed Wednesday that they have found the first solid archeological evidence that some of the earliest American colonists at Jamestown, Va., survived harsh conditions by turning to cannibalism.

For years, there have been tales of people in the first permanent English settlement in America eating dogs, cats, rats, mice, snakes and shoe leather to stave off starvation. There were also written accounts of settlers eating their own dead, but archeologists had been skeptical of those stories.

But now, the Smithsonian's National Museum of Natural History and archeologists from Jamestown are announcing the discovery of the bones of a 14-year-old girl that show clear signs that she was cannibalized. Evidence indicates clumsy chops to the body and head of the girl, who appears to have already been dead at the time.

Smithsonian forensic anthropologist Douglas Owsley said the human remains date back to a deadly winter known as the "starving time" in Jamestown from 1609 to 1610. Hundreds died during the period. Scientists have said the settlers likely arrived during the worst drought in 800 years, bringing severe food shortages for the 6,000 people who lived at Jamestown between 1607 and 1625.

Well that settles it folks... America was built on cannibalism.
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9/17/2013 2:39:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/17/2013 12:42:09 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 9/15/2013 12:47:05 AM, Cermank wrote:
Here's another one: Scientists revealed Wednesday that they have found the first solid archeological evidence that some of the earliest American colonists at Jamestown, Va., survived harsh conditions by turning to cannibalism.

For years, there have been tales of people in the first permanent English settlement in America eating dogs, cats, rats, mice, snakes and shoe leather to stave off starvation. There were also written accounts of settlers eating their own dead, but archeologists had been skeptical of those stories.

But now, the Smithsonian's National Museum of Natural History and archeologists from Jamestown are announcing the discovery of the bones of a 14-year-old girl that show clear signs that she was cannibalized. Evidence indicates clumsy chops to the body and head of the girl, who appears to have already been dead at the time.

Smithsonian forensic anthropologist Douglas Owsley said the human remains date back to a deadly winter known as the "starving time" in Jamestown from 1609 to 1610. Hundreds died during the period. Scientists have said the settlers likely arrived during the worst drought in 800 years, bringing severe food shortages for the 6,000 people who lived at Jamestown between 1607 and 1625.

Well that settles it folks... America was built on cannibalism.

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9/17/2013 7:21:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Mahatma Gandhi slept with underage women, naked, to check whether he was 'aroused'. If he wasn't, it meant he had sufficiently mastered his impulses.

Also, he once told his wife to pack off his bags and return to her own house because she opposed his giving away of jewelries (to the 'needy') gifted to HER by some Congress people.

Also, while his grandfather was dying in the other room, and he had been entrusted to take care of him, he was boinking his wife in the other room.

Although he did say that the guilt for the last one ate him for a while. He turned to abstinence because of that.
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9/30/2013 5:27:57 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/17/2013 7:21:06 PM, Cermank wrote:
Mahatma Gandhi slept with underage women, naked, to check whether he was 'aroused'. If he wasn't, it meant he had sufficiently mastered his impulses.

That's an interesting defense for anyone caught with minors in the bedroom naked. No, it's not what It looks like, I merely have them there to check if i have mastered my impulses.......

If only the catholic priests had thought of that one.......

Too soon ?
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