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Reason behind push for no child labor

lannan13
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2/15/2015 10:18:06 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Despite what you might have learned about at your school about the dangerous working conditions that's not why they wanted to get rid of child labor. You see when people started to build factories across the world no one wanted to work, so the cheapest and easiest form of labor were orphans. The factory owners would have them work at the factories in exchange for them taking care and educating the orphans. The working conditions did indeed suck which is why they would try to run away, because you couldn't quit the job. You were forced to work there until age 18-20. Since children tried to escape all the time the factory owners had to put up walls and security around the factory so it no longer looked like a factory, but a prison. It took factories a while to get over that hump, because no one wants to work at a place that looks like a prison unless you're insane.

As for the elimination of women from the work place there were several reasons why. The first was honor, because the man is suppose to be the breadwinner of the house and if the women is working what does that say about your man? That's why you'll see a lot of men let their families suffer rather than having their wives work as it would damage the man's reputation. In coal mines it's hot down there. Especially since much of the clothing at this time is made from wool and not yet cotton so all clothing would only get in the way. Men and women would only were loin cloths and the women would be topless. So you'll see many men go their to work just to check out some topless chicks. So you'll see the push to eliminate women from the workplace as well.
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2/18/2015 5:59:13 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/15/2015 10:18:06 AM, lannan13 wrote:
Despite what you might have learned about at your school about the dangerous working conditions that's not why they wanted to get rid of child labor. You see when people started to build factories across the world no one wanted to work, so the cheapest and easiest form of labor were orphans. The factory owners would have them work at the factories in exchange for them taking care and educating the orphans. The working conditions did indeed suck which is why they would try to run away, because you couldn't quit the job. You were forced to work there until age 18-20. Since children tried to escape all the time the factory owners had to put up walls and security around the factory so it no longer looked like a factory, but a prison. It took factories a while to get over that hump, because no one wants to work at a place that looks like a prison unless you're insane.

As for the elimination of women from the work place there were several reasons why. The first was honor, because the man is suppose to be the breadwinner of the house and if the women is working what does that say about your man? That's why you'll see a lot of men let their families suffer rather than having their wives work as it would damage the man's reputation. In coal mines it's hot down there. Especially since much of the clothing at this time is made from wool and not yet cotton so all clothing would only get in the way. Men and women would only were loin cloths and the women would be topless. So you'll see many men go their to work just to check out some topless chicks. So you'll see the push to eliminate women from the workplace as well.

The woman who worked in the mines had little time to care for there appearance. They would be very strong from physical labour and once covered in coal dust difficult to distinguish from men. The language they used would make a sailor blush. There was very little checking out of the opposite sex when you had several tons of coal to shift in a day.
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2/18/2015 6:02:16 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/15/2015 10:18:06 AM, lannan13 wrote:
Despite what you might have learned about at your school about the dangerous working conditions that's not why they wanted to get rid of child labor. You see when people started to build factories across the world no one wanted to work, so the cheapest and easiest form of labor were orphans. The factory owners would have them work at the factories in exchange for them taking care and educating the orphans. The working conditions did indeed suck which is why they would try to run away, because you couldn't quit the job. You were forced to work there until age 18-20. Since children tried to escape all the time the factory owners had to put up walls and security around the factory so it no longer looked like a factory, but a prison. It took factories a while to get over that hump, because no one wants to work at a place that looks like a prison unless you're insane.

As for the elimination of women from the work place there were several reasons why. The first was honor, because the man is suppose to be the breadwinner of the house and if the women is working what does that say about your man? That's why you'll see a lot of men let their families suffer rather than having their wives work as it would damage the man's reputation. In coal mines it's hot down there. Especially since much of the clothing at this time is made from wool and not yet cotton so all clothing would only get in the way. Men and women would only were loin cloths and the women would be topless. So you'll see many men go their to work just to check out some topless chicks. So you'll see the push to eliminate women from the workplace as well.

Ummm... women were never 'eliminated' from the workplace. It is true that, traditionally, that employment tended to be a 'male sphere', but women have always worked, and in large numbers.
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2/18/2015 7:24:40 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/18/2015 6:02:16 AM, cartidge wrote:
At 2/15/2015 10:18:06 AM, lannan13 wrote:
Despite what you might have learned about at your school about the dangerous working conditions that's not why they wanted to get rid of child labor. You see when people started to build factories across the world no one wanted to work, so the cheapest and easiest form of labor were orphans. The factory owners would have them work at the factories in exchange for them taking care and educating the orphans. The working conditions did indeed suck which is why they would try to run away, because you couldn't quit the job. You were forced to work there until age 18-20. Since children tried to escape all the time the factory owners had to put up walls and security around the factory so it no longer looked like a factory, but a prison. It took factories a while to get over that hump, because no one wants to work at a place that looks like a prison unless you're insane.

As for the elimination of women from the work place there were several reasons why. The first was honor, because the man is suppose to be the breadwinner of the house and if the women is working what does that say about your man? That's why you'll see a lot of men let their families suffer rather than having their wives work as it would damage the man's reputation. In coal mines it's hot down there. Especially since much of the clothing at this time is made from wool and not yet cotton so all clothing would only get in the way. Men and women would only were loin cloths and the women would be topless. So you'll see many men go their to work just to check out some topless chicks. So you'll see the push to eliminate women from the workplace as well.

Ummm... women were never 'eliminated' from the workplace. It is true that, traditionally, that employment tended to be a 'male sphere', but women have always worked, and in large numbers.

I never said they were completely eliminated. They were eliminated from the coal mines, but they pushed for complete elimination because of that of pride and other things that I have already mentioned.
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2/18/2015 8:14:43 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/15/2015 10:18:06 AM, lannan13 wrote:
Despite what you might have learned about at your school about the dangerous working conditions that's not why they wanted to get rid of child labor. You see when people started to build factories across the world no one wanted to work, so the cheapest and easiest form of labor were orphans. The factory owners would have them work at the factories in exchange for them taking care and educating the orphans. The working conditions did indeed suck which is why they would try to run away, because you couldn't quit the job. You were forced to work there until age 18-20. Since children tried to escape all the time the factory owners had to put up walls and security around the factory so it no longer looked like a factory, but a prison. It took factories a while to get over that hump, because no one wants to work at a place that looks like a prison unless you're insane.

As for the elimination of women from the work place there were several reasons why. The first was honor, because the man is suppose to be the breadwinner of the house and if the women is working what does that say about your man? That's why you'll see a lot of men let their families suffer rather than having their wives work as it would damage the man's reputation. In coal mines it's hot down there. Especially since much of the clothing at this time is made from wool and not yet cotton so all clothing would only get in the way. Men and women would only were loin cloths and the women would be topless. So you'll see many men go their to work just to check out some topless chicks. So you'll see the push to eliminate women from the workplace as well.

Those may be historial reasons. Although the current reason is that children need to atend school, not factories, and they also need free time to have a healthy development. And thus there's simply no time for them to be working. Also children lack the capacities to discuss salary matters with businessmen in order to avoid exploitation. This would require the children's parents/tutors to discuss it, opening the way to tutor/parents exploitation of their own children.

As for women. Yeah, sexism was the main cause of women not working.