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2/21/2015 2:01:18 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
It's true that many white people are upper or middle class mainly or partly because their ancestors had various opportunities with jobs and education that other people didn't. It's also true that many black and native Americans suffer from poverty and other problems as a direct result of what was done to their ancestors. For example native American children were sent to boarding schools from 1879-1960's. At these boarding schools the children were not sloped to speak their tribal languages or practice their tribes traditions. If they did they were beaten and humiliated. Sometimes abuse happened regardless of what the children did-sexually, physically and emotionally. These schools were supposed to Integrate American Indians into white society by teaching them white customs and culture. Because of the trauma that many indian children faced in these schools many ad later problems with alcohol. Their children them had these problems and it goes on.
But we can't say that all white people benefited from this. Let's look at slavery For example. In America there are many white cultural groups--the southern baptists who are mostly irish and english decent, the Chicago Irish, the Pensylvania Dutch, the Scandinavians of the upper midwest all of witch came to America at different times for different reasons, had different jobs, different cultural traditions and practiced different religions. Most importantly they all have different histories. Slavery was done by a specific group. Just because southern white cultural groups be dieted from slaveholder doesn't mean the boston irish who came over later and were discriminated against the aha black people were when it came to housing and jobs did to. Each white american cultural group has a very different history and culture than the next and we can't paint all of white America with this big brush and assume all white groups took part in slavery.
White Americans have suffered racism in the passed. Irish Americans specifically on the north east weren't allowed on various restraints or bars and were allowed to have various jobs. Immigrants from Italy and eastern Europe were all discriminated against.
In other countries besides America who're people have suffered from racism. My grandmother is a white Crimean Tatar who was sent to a nazi work camp during ww2. She didn't be for from racism. She suffered at the hands of the nazis. Other white groups like polish people and jewish people also did. In Bosnia in the 1990s white Bosnian Muslims were genocided . How could you tell a white muslim from Bosnia who escaped the war and lost their family that they somehow benefit from racism-when they suffered from genocide?.
In America many white people suffer from racism. Affirmative action is one example and doesn't work for the reasons above. There are also many anti white crimes. Kevin Shiflet an 8 year old white boy from Alexandria va had his throat slit by a black man because the man hated white people. Zemir be if a bosnian erica from at Louis was hammered to death by a group of black and Hispanic teens as revenge or mike brown. Would you tell their families that they benefit from racism even though their family member died because of racism?
So not all white people benefit from racism or took part in it. Not all white cultural groups can be judged for what one of them did. Racism against whites happened in America and in other countries through history and it still goes on.
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2/21/2015 2:39:31 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/21/2015 2:01:18 PM, Dilara wrote:
It's true that many white people are upper or middle class mainly or partly because their ancestors had various opportunities with jobs and education that other people didn't. It's also true that many black and native Americans suffer from poverty and other problems as a direct result of what was done to their ancestors. For example native American children were sent to boarding schools from 1879-1960's. At these boarding schools the children were not sloped to speak their tribal languages or practice their tribes traditions. If they did they were beaten and humiliated. Sometimes abuse happened regardless of what the children did-sexually, physically and emotionally. These schools were supposed to Integrate American Indians into white society by teaching them white customs and culture. Because of the trauma that many indian children faced in these schools many ad later problems with alcohol. Their children them had these problems and it goes on.
But we can't say that all white people benefited from this. Let's look at slavery For example. In America there are many white cultural groups--the southern baptists who are mostly irish and english decent, the Chicago Irish, the Pensylvania Dutch, the Scandinavians of the upper midwest all of witch came to America at different times for different reasons, had different jobs, different cultural traditions and practiced different religions. Most importantly they all have different histories. Slavery was done by a specific group. Just because southern white cultural groups be dieted from slaveholder doesn't mean the boston irish who came over later and were discriminated against the aha black people were when it came to housing and jobs did to. Each white american cultural group has a very different history and culture than the next and we can't paint all of white America with this big brush and assume all white groups took part in slavery.
White Americans have suffered racism in the passed. Irish Americans specifically on the north east weren't allowed on various restraints or bars and were allowed to have various jobs. Immigrants from Italy and eastern Europe were all discriminated against.
In other countries besides America who're people have suffered from racism. My grandmother is a white Crimean Tatar who was sent to a nazi work camp during ww2. She didn't be for from racism. She suffered at the hands of the nazis. Other white groups like polish people and jewish people also did. In Bosnia in the 1990s white Bosnian Muslims were genocided . How could you tell a white muslim from Bosnia who escaped the war and lost their family that they somehow benefit from racism-when they suffered from genocide?.
In America many white people suffer from racism. Affirmative action is one example and doesn't work for the reasons above. There are also many anti white crimes. Kevin Shiflet an 8 year old white boy from Alexandria va had his throat slit by a black man because the man hated white people. Zemir be if a bosnian erica from at Louis was hammered to death by a group of black and Hispanic teens as revenge or mike brown. Would you tell their families that they benefit from racism even though their family member died because of racism?
So not all white people benefit from racism or took part in it. Not all white cultural groups can be judged for what one of them did. Racism against whites happened in America and in other countries through history and it still goes on.

Agreed.

But I think the white Europeans were justified in colonizing America. They didn't steal the natives' land, because the Indians never owned the land in the first place. "Theft" requires someone to legitimately own something - but the natives believed that land is the common property of all. They stole each other's land all the time, so if the Europeans stole land from the Sioux, didn't the Sioux steal land from the Cheyenne and other tribes? Land was rightfully taken through conquest, so the Americans were justified in taking land from them.
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2/21/2015 3:27:31 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/21/2015 2:39:31 PM, Varrack wrote:
At 2/21/2015 2:01:18 PM, Dilara wrote:
It's true that many white people are upper or middle class mainly or partly because their ancestors had various opportunities with jobs and education that other people didn't. It's also true that many black and native Americans suffer from poverty and other problems as a direct result of what was done to their ancestors. For example native American children were sent to boarding schools from 1879-1960's. At these boarding schools the children were not sloped to speak their tribal languages or practice their tribes traditions. If they did they were beaten and humiliated. Sometimes abuse happened regardless of what the children did-sexually, physically and emotionally. These schools were supposed to Integrate American Indians into white society by teaching them white customs and culture. Because of the trauma that many indian children faced in these schools many ad later problems with alcohol. Their children them had these problems and it goes on.
But we can't say that all white people benefited from this. Let's look at slavery For example. In America there are many white cultural groups--the southern baptists who are mostly irish and english decent, the Chicago Irish, the Pensylvania Dutch, the Scandinavians of the upper midwest all of witch came to America at different times for different reasons, had different jobs, different cultural traditions and practiced different religions. Most importantly they all have different histories. Slavery was done by a specific group. Just because southern white cultural groups be dieted from slaveholder doesn't mean the boston irish who came over later and were discriminated against the aha black people were when it came to housing and jobs did to. Each white american cultural group has a very different history and culture than the next and we can't paint all of white America with this big brush and assume all white groups took part in slavery.
White Americans have suffered racism in the passed. Irish Americans specifically on the north east weren't allowed on various restraints or bars and were allowed to have various jobs. Immigrants from Italy and eastern Europe were all discriminated against.
In other countries besides America who're people have suffered from racism. My grandmother is a white Crimean Tatar who was sent to a nazi work camp during ww2. She didn't be for from racism. She suffered at the hands of the nazis. Other white groups like polish people and jewish people also did. In Bosnia in the 1990s white Bosnian Muslims were genocided . How could you tell a white muslim from Bosnia who escaped the war and lost their family that they somehow benefit from racism-when they suffered from genocide?.
In America many white people suffer from racism. Affirmative action is one example and doesn't work for the reasons above. There are also many anti white crimes. Kevin Shiflet an 8 year old white boy from Alexandria va had his throat slit by a black man because the man hated white people. Zemir be if a bosnian erica from at Louis was hammered to death by a group of black and Hispanic teens as revenge or mike brown. Would you tell their families that they benefit from racism even though their family member died because of racism?
So not all white people benefit from racism or took part in it. Not all white cultural groups can be judged for what one of them did. Racism against whites happened in America and in other countries through history and it still goes on.

Agreed.

But I think the white Europeans were justified in colonizing America. They didn't steal the natives' land, because the Indians never owned the land in the first place. "Theft" requires someone to legitimately own something - but the natives believed that land is the common property of all. They stole each other's land all the time, so if the Europeans stole land from the Sioux, didn't the Sioux steal land from the Cheyenne and other tribes? Land was rightfully taken through conquest, so the Americans were justified in taking land from them.
Right. What happened to the Indians was terrible but at that time stronger peoples conquered weeker peoples. Indians conquered other weeker tribes and killed their members and took some of their members slaves. They pushed them off their land to. If some of these tribes had the technology they would have conquered Europe considering the those tribes conquered weeker tribes
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2/21/2015 3:44:58 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/21/2015 3:27:31 PM, Dilara wrote:
At 2/21/2015 2:39:31 PM, Varrack wrote:
At 2/21/2015 2:01:18 PM, Dilara wrote:
It's true that many white people are upper or middle class mainly or partly because their ancestors had various opportunities with jobs and education that other people didn't. It's also true that many black and native Americans suffer from poverty and other problems as a direct result of what was done to their ancestors. For example native American children were sent to boarding schools from 1879-1960's. At these boarding schools the children were not sloped to speak their tribal languages or practice their tribes traditions. If they did they were beaten and humiliated. Sometimes abuse happened regardless of what the children did-sexually, physically and emotionally. These schools were supposed to Integrate American Indians into white society by teaching them white customs and culture. Because of the trauma that many indian children faced in these schools many ad later problems with alcohol. Their children them had these problems and it goes on.
But we can't say that all white people benefited from this. Let's look at slavery For example. In America there are many white cultural groups--the southern baptists who are mostly irish and english decent, the Chicago Irish, the Pensylvania Dutch, the Scandinavians of the upper midwest all of witch came to America at different times for different reasons, had different jobs, different cultural traditions and practiced different religions. Most importantly they all have different histories. Slavery was done by a specific group. Just because southern white cultural groups be dieted from slaveholder doesn't mean the boston irish who came over later and were discriminated against the aha black people were when it came to housing and jobs did to. Each white american cultural group has a very different history and culture than the next and we can't paint all of white America with this big brush and assume all white groups took part in slavery.
White Americans have suffered racism in the passed. Irish Americans specifically on the north east weren't allowed on various restraints or bars and were allowed to have various jobs. Immigrants from Italy and eastern Europe were all discriminated against.
In other countries besides America who're people have suffered from racism. My grandmother is a white Crimean Tatar who was sent to a nazi work camp during ww2. She didn't be for from racism. She suffered at the hands of the nazis. Other white groups like polish people and jewish people also did. In Bosnia in the 1990s white Bosnian Muslims were genocided . How could you tell a white muslim from Bosnia who escaped the war and lost their family that they somehow benefit from racism-when they suffered from genocide?.
In America many white people suffer from racism. Affirmative action is one example and doesn't work for the reasons above. There are also many anti white crimes. Kevin Shiflet an 8 year old white boy from Alexandria va had his throat slit by a black man because the man hated white people. Zemir be if a bosnian erica from at Louis was hammered to death by a group of black and Hispanic teens as revenge or mike brown. Would you tell their families that they benefit from racism even though their family member died because of racism?
So not all white people benefit from racism or took part in it. Not all white cultural groups can be judged for what one of them did. Racism against whites happened in America and in other countries through history and it still goes on.

Agreed.

But I think the white Europeans were justified in colonizing America. They didn't steal the natives' land, because the Indians never owned the land in the first place. "Theft" requires someone to legitimately own something - but the natives believed that land is the common property of all. They stole each other's land all the time, so if the Europeans stole land from the Sioux, didn't the Sioux steal land from the Cheyenne and other tribes? Land was rightfully taken through conquest, so the Americans were justified in taking land from them.
Right. What happened to the Indians was terrible but at that time stronger peoples conquered weeker peoples. Indians conquered other weeker tribes and killed their members and took some of their members slaves. They pushed them off their land to. If some of these tribes had the technology they would have conquered Europe considering the those tribes conquered weeker tribes

Yeah, if they had the technology they would have gone to Europe and taken all the whites out. Their lack of boats and guns allowed the colonists to beat them. Yes they did some bad things to them but the natives are better off now with a technologically advanced country where they can be doctors, businessmen, builders, etc instead of chieftains and medicine man.
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2/21/2015 8:01:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/21/2015 3:44:58 PM, Varrack wrote:
At 2/21/2015 3:27:31 PM, Dilara wrote:
At 2/21/2015 2:39:31 PM, Varrack wrote:
At 2/21/2015 2:01:18 PM, Dilara wrote:
It's true that many white people are upper or middle class mainly or partly because their ancestors had various opportunities with jobs and education that other people didn't. It's also true that many black and native Americans suffer from poverty and other problems as a direct result of what was done to their ancestors. For example native American children were sent to boarding schools from 1879-1960's. At these boarding schools the children were not sloped to speak their tribal languages or practice their tribes traditions. If they did they were beaten and humiliated. Sometimes abuse happened regardless of what the children did-sexually, physically and emotionally. These schools were supposed to Integrate American Indians into white society by teaching them white customs and culture. Because of the trauma that many indian children faced in these schools many ad later problems with alcohol. Their children them had these problems and it goes on.
But we can't say that all white people benefited from this. Let's look at slavery For example. In America there are many white cultural groups--the southern baptists who are mostly irish and english decent, the Chicago Irish, the Pensylvania Dutch, the Scandinavians of the upper midwest all of witch came to America at different times for different reasons, had different jobs, different cultural traditions and practiced different religions. Most importantly they all have different histories. Slavery was done by a specific group. Just because southern white cultural groups be dieted from slaveholder doesn't mean the boston irish who came over later and were discriminated against the aha black people were when it came to housing and jobs did to. Each white american cultural group has a very different history and culture than the next and we can't paint all of white America with this big brush and assume all white groups took part in slavery.
White Americans have suffered racism in the passed. Irish Americans specifically on the north east weren't allowed on various restraints or bars and were allowed to have various jobs. Immigrants from Italy and eastern Europe were all discriminated against.
In other countries besides America who're people have suffered from racism. My grandmother is a white Crimean Tatar who was sent to a nazi work camp during ww2. She didn't be for from racism. She suffered at the hands of the nazis. Other white groups like polish people and jewish people also did. In Bosnia in the 1990s white Bosnian Muslims were genocided . How could you tell a white muslim from Bosnia who escaped the war and lost their family that they somehow benefit from racism-when they suffered from genocide?.
In America many white people suffer from racism. Affirmative action is one example and doesn't work for the reasons above. There are also many anti white crimes. Kevin Shiflet an 8 year old white boy from Alexandria va had his throat slit by a black man because the man hated white people. Zemir be if a bosnian erica from at Louis was hammered to death by a group of black and Hispanic teens as revenge or mike brown. Would you tell their families that they benefit from racism even though their family member died because of racism?
So not all white people benefit from racism or took part in it. Not all white cultural groups can be judged for what one of them did. Racism against whites happened in America and in other countries through history and it still goes on.

Agreed.

But I think the white Europeans were justified in colonizing America. They didn't steal the natives' land, because the Indians never owned the land in the first place. "Theft" requires someone to legitimately own something - but the natives believed that land is the common property of all. They stole each other's land all the time, so if the Europeans stole land from the Sioux, didn't the Sioux steal land from the Cheyenne and other tribes? Land was rightfully taken through conquest, so the Americans were justified in taking land from them.
Right. What happened to the Indians was terrible but at that time stronger peoples conquered weeker peoples. Indians conquered other weeker tribes and killed their members and took some of their members slaves. They pushed them off their land to. If some of these tribes had the technology they would have conquered Europe considering the those tribes conquered weeker tribes

Yeah, if they had the technology they would have gone to Europe and taken all the whites out. Their lack of boats and guns allowed the colonists to beat them. Yes they did some bad things to them but the natives are better off now with a technologically advanced country where they can be doctors, businessmen, builders, etc instead of chieftains and medicine man.
The Iroquois were good doctors and the Cherokee had their own complex government and there were many professions and skills before the whites came and there's no doubt that they were kicked off their land but it's not like this was anything new to them. Because it was done by people with white skin it's some how worse than when they assaulted each other and took each other's land?. What happened to them was terrible but it's not like those things are specific to white people.
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3/1/2015 7:35:43 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Why does racism only apply to white people? Black people can be just as racist as white people. I see it happen everyday....
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5/3/2015 12:19:30 PM
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Where a person is in life, from the education they have , marital status, kids, bank account, job, legal standing, etc. is the sum of all the actions they took in their life. Life is not a product of thought or circumstances, but of action. It's action that makes or breaks a person, not environment, or thinking. You can think of something, positive or negative all you want to, but putting those thoughts into action produces results. I grew up in an orphanage and foster home and was abused, mistreated, and was exploited in my youth. I was worked and treated like a slave, having to work form sun up to sun down on a farm. I received $1.50 a week for an allowance. I would save my money and after 2=3 months I might buy a small transistor radio to play while I worked in the fields. I was ashamed to wear the same clothes to school all week, and the same work clothes for the fields though they were crusted with dried mud. Me and my foster brothers and sisters had no nurturing and we knew that our standing was directly proportional to our ability to work. I could go on with my shitty childhood and write off my troubles, and failures on those circumstances. When I was a child, I was powerless, as an adult I have the power to control my circumstances. As a child, I made an unconscious decision to be somebody when I grew up, so I would not have to wear patched blue jeans, and live a life of shame. Sure, I've battled the psychological toll those times had on me, but I had the motivation to be an overcomer. No one can say they are where they are in life solely by their own ideas and efforts, everyone has to have help from another person at some time, to give them the needed boost to propel them to another level i.e. a sympathetic teacher, compassionate judge or police officer, an understanding human resources person, an encouraging peer or spouse.
I made something of myself, got an education, forming a pathway to a good and rewarding career. Life is a battle with the mind and dealing with people is a huge part of success. You can't take yourself too seriously, learn to laugh at yourself, put yourself in another's shoes on occasion to gain an objective perspective, have some gratitude and humility, give 8 hours work for 8 hours pay, treat others with respect. These are some of the ingredients I have found to a recipe for successful living. Therea are others.
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5/3/2015 8:26:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/1/2015 7:35:43 AM, HarrisonJHamilton wrote:
Why does racism only apply to white people? Black people can be just as racist as white people. I see it happen everyday....

"Racism" comes from a place of privilege. "Racial prejudice", however, can be done on an individual level. Would you like more information?
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6/4/2015 10:31:32 AM
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Slavery happened..to keep mumbling about it will not change it...it is not slavery that present day blacks should be more concerned about, it is equal respect for dignity and worth of all individuals. Somethings that have to be earned, somethings that helps to move this country beyond racism.
Slavery (racism)in America has affected everyone,the enslaved, their descendants, and even those who did not own slaves, or those whose ancestors came later have benefited from this evil social institution and the aftermath (institutionalized racism) that evolved from its existence. Therefore, the "we never own slaves, or you were never slaves" just will not stand the "effects and affects" test.
But again it happened. The WHY, HOW, WHEN, and for the most part the WHO are well documented. to keep blaming and pointing fingers or making excuses for its existence, or who did what to whom will not move the country beyond its present stagnation with the CONCEPT.
Remember it (Slavery/Racism) as a defining aspect of this evolving country, yes, but allowing it to continue to enslave ones thoughts just moves an individual from one box to another. IT IS ONE THING TO BE A RACIST, BUT ANOTHER TO PRACTICE RACISM.
We are all different. The stereotype of blaming whites for the present conditions or effects of racism does not wash for all. There are "dregs" of the cultural slop bucket throughout the total US population. Four hundred years of oppression along with the the media, especially the film industry, have made it to appear more apparent in
the black community. To paraphrase Winston Churchill, Never have so few done so much for so many with with so little. Starting with having nothing, not even owning the clothes on their backs, black Americans have achieved much. Again blame, is many time misplaced, and positive results are simply ignored.
We are all stitched together by a common thread, woven into a common fabric..AMERICA.. fragile at times, and sometimes very worn, but held together by more of the things and common values than those that are not..held together and generated, grown, broken, and re-glued over more than 400 year. Enslaved thoughts, vitriolic, scathing, and caustic 'tribal' rhetoric makes the road ahead still a long ways behind.
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6/6/2015 12:40:28 PM
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Many white people are even victimized by racism.

As is the case for Affirmative Action.

I work for the government. The VA.So it is rampant here.

But..funny thing. I have yet to have anybody explain to me how AA is NOT thinly-veiled reverse-discrimination.

Oh...I know why. Because it IS!

LOL
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6/7/2015 10:24:56 PM
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At 6/6/2015 12:40:28 PM, Saint_of_Me wrote:
Many white people are even victimized by racism.

As is the case for Affirmative Action.

I work for the government. The VA.So it is rampant here.

But..funny thing. I have yet to have anybody explain to me how AA is NOT thinly-veiled reverse-discrimination.

Oh...I know why. Because it IS!

LOL

They don't want to use facts and logic to prove the AA isn't racist because there are no Tatars logic to prove that. Not letting someone into college because they're white racist . Instead they'll avoid using facts by calling all opponents of AA racist.
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6/8/2015 11:16:53 AM
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At 6/7/2015 10:24:56 PM, Dilara wrote:
At 6/6/2015 12:40:28 PM, Saint_of_Me wrote:
Many white people are even victimized by racism.

As is the case for Affirmative Action.

I work for the government. The VA.So it is rampant here.

But..funny thing. I have yet to have anybody explain to me how AA is NOT thinly-veiled reverse-discrimination.

Oh...I know why. Because it IS!

LOL

They don't want to use facts and logic to prove the AA isn't racist because there are no Tatars logic to prove that. Not letting someone into college because they're white racist . Instead they'll avoid using facts by calling all opponents of AA racist.

You and I park our cars in the same garage, my friend.
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6/8/2015 2:20:40 PM
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At 6/8/2015 11:16:53 AM, Saint_of_Me wrote:
At 6/7/2015 10:24:56 PM, Dilara wrote:
At 6/6/2015 12:40:28 PM, Saint_of_Me wrote:
Many white people are even victimized by racism.

As is the case for Affirmative Action.

I work for the government. The VA.So it is rampant here.

But..funny thing. I have yet to have anybody explain to me how AA is NOT thinly-veiled reverse-discrimination.

Oh...I know why. Because it IS!

LOL

They don't want to use facts and logic to prove the AA isn't racist because there are no Tatars logic to prove that. Not letting someone into college because they're white racist . Instead they'll avoid using facts by calling all opponents of AA racist.

You and I park our cars in the same garage, my friend.

I just made a forum in get society section where i use stats to show how much higher black on white violence is than white on black violence.
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6/8/2015 2:58:21 PM
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At 6/8/2015 2:20:40 PM, Dilara wrote:
At 6/8/2015 11:16:53 AM, Saint_of_Me wrote:
At 6/7/2015 10:24:56 PM, Dilara wrote:
At 6/6/2015 12:40:28 PM, Saint_of_Me wrote:
Many white people are even victimized by racism.

As is the case for Affirmative Action.

I work for the government. The VA.So it is rampant here.

But..funny thing. I have yet to have anybody explain to me how AA is NOT thinly-veiled reverse-discrimination.

Oh...I know why. Because it IS!

LOL

They don't want to use facts and logic to prove the AA isn't racist because there are no Tatars logic to prove that. Not letting someone into college because they're white racist . Instead they'll avoid using facts by calling all opponents of AA racist.

You and I park our cars in the same garage, my friend.

I just made a forum in get society section where i use stats to show how much higher black on white violence is than white on black violence.

No doubt. Blacks commit far more crime, per capita in my country than do any other ethnic group. Hands down.

Most whites--not me, but most--although they do not like to admit it, are intimidated by blacks. So I am not surprised that black on white violence far exceeds the reverse.

Try as they may, the black apologists' tired old line about racism among law enforcement cannot explain why my county's prisons incarcerate so many blacks in proportion to their meager 13% nationwide demographic population.
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6/8/2015 3:24:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/8/2015 2:58:21 PM, Saint_of_Me wrote:
At 6/8/2015 2:20:40 PM, Dilara wrote:
At 6/8/2015 11:16:53 AM, Saint_of_Me wrote:
At 6/7/2015 10:24:56 PM, Dilara wrote:
At 6/6/2015 12:40:28 PM, Saint_of_Me wrote:
Many white people are even victimized by racism.

As is the case for Affirmative Action.

I work for the government. The VA.So it is rampant here.

But..funny thing. I have yet to have anybody explain to me how AA is NOT thinly-veiled reverse-discrimination.

Oh...I know why. Because it IS!

LOL

They don't want to use facts and logic to prove the AA isn't racist because there are no Tatars logic to prove that. Not letting someone into college because they're white racist . Instead they'll avoid using facts by calling all opponents of AA racist.

You and I park our cars in the same garage, my friend.

I just made a forum in get society section where i use stats to show how much higher black on white violence is than white on black violence.

No doubt. Blacks commit far more crime, per capita in my country than do any other ethnic group. Hands down.

Most whites--not me, but most--although they do not like to admit it, are intimidated by blacks. So I am not surprised that black on white violence far exceeds the reverse.

Try as they may, the black apologists' tired old line about racism among law enforcement cannot explain why my county's prisons incarcerate so many blacks in proportion to their meager 13% nationwide demographic population.

I'm also from America. Young Black men are 3% of the population and do 50% of the murderers. That's why cops are more likely to have violent confrontations with them.
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6/8/2015 5:10:23 PM
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At 2/21/2015 2:01:18 PM, Dilara wrote:
It's true that many white people are upper or middle class mainly or partly because their ancestors had various opportunities with jobs and education that other people didn't. It's also true that many black and native Americans suffer from poverty and other problems as a direct result of what was done to their ancestors. For example native American children were sent to boarding schools from 1879-1960's. At these boarding schools the children were not sloped to speak their tribal languages or practice their tribes traditions. If they did they were beaten and humiliated. Sometimes abuse happened regardless of what the children did-sexually, physically and emotionally. These schools were supposed to Integrate American Indians into white society by teaching them white customs and culture. Because of the trauma that many indian children faced in these schools many ad later problems with alcohol. Their children them had these problems and it goes on.
But we can't say that all white people benefited from this. Let's look at slavery For example. In America there are many white cultural groups--the southern baptists who are mostly irish and english decent, the Chicago Irish, the Pensylvania Dutch, the Scandinavians of the upper midwest all of witch came to America at different times for different reasons, had different jobs, different cultural traditions and practiced different religions. Most importantly they all have different histories. Slavery was done by a specific group. Just because southern white cultural groups be dieted from slaveholder doesn't mean the boston irish who came over later and were discriminated against the aha black people were when it came to housing and jobs did to. Each white american cultural group has a very different history and culture than the next and we can't paint all of white America with this big brush and assume all white groups took part in slavery.
White Americans have suffered racism in the passed. Irish Americans specifically on the north east weren't allowed on various restraints or bars and were allowed to have various jobs. Immigrants from Italy and eastern Europe were all discriminated against.
In other countries besides America who're people have suffered from racism. My grandmother is a white Crimean Tatar who was sent to a nazi work camp during ww2. She didn't be for from racism. She suffered at the hands of the nazis. Other white groups like polish people and jewish people also did. In Bosnia in the 1990s white Bosnian Muslims were genocided . How could you tell a white muslim from Bosnia who escaped the war and lost their family that they somehow benefit from racism-when they suffered from genocide?.
In America many white people suffer from racism. Affirmative action is one example and doesn't work for the reasons above. There are also many anti white crimes. Kevin Shiflet an 8 year old white boy from Alexandria va had his throat slit by a black man because the man hated white people. Zemir be if a bosnian erica from at Louis was hammered to death by a group of black and Hispanic teens as revenge or mike brown. Would you tell their families that they benefit from racism even though their family member died because of racism?
So not all white people benefit from racism or took part in it. Not all white cultural groups can be judged for what one of them did. Racism against whites happened in America and in other countries through history and it still goes on.

Here is a video of Obama agreeing to what you said right now.

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