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Favorite WWII Heads of Gov/State

Atheist-Independent
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9/3/2015 12:37:11 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
For example Churchill, FDR, Mannerheim, Chiang Kai-Shek, Tiso, Ionescu, etc.

And please don't say Hitler. Unless, of course, you're a neo-nazi than go ahead.
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9/6/2015 4:35:02 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/4/2015 1:36:19 AM, Atheist-Independent wrote:
At 9/3/2015 2:31:23 PM, XLAV wrote:
Stalin ftw.

...well then
without him russia is weak
weak russia means german victory
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9/6/2015 7:27:13 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/3/2015 12:37:11 AM, Atheist-Independent wrote:
For example Churchill, FDR, Mannerheim, Chiang Kai-Shek, Tiso, Ionescu, etc.

And please don't say Hitler. Unless, of course, you're a neo-nazi than go ahead.

The Head of State which I find most interesting is probably Abraham Lincoln. The man possessed a wit which even to this day seems to go unappreciated by a lot of people, and his entire life is - well - interesting. He was a hands-on President for sure, and he was open to one-on-one debates with almost anyone. No, he wasn't really the "Great Emancipator" that people often make him out to be, but he truly believed in racial equality and the sanctity of the human condition. I think he was a great man.
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9/6/2015 7:30:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/3/2015 2:31:23 PM, XLAV wrote:
Stalin ftw.

I wouldn't pick Stalin because I don't believe that the ends justify the means he employed to consolidate singular power. Stalin could have prevented the war by not being so power-hungry that he made a pact with Hitler to divide Poland between them, as well as awarding himself other territories in exchange for not opposing the German aggression. He didn't give a crap until his own country became the victim.
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9/6/2015 7:37:36 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/3/2015 12:37:11 AM, Atheist-Independent wrote:
For example Churchill, FDR, Mannerheim, Chiang Kai-Shek, Tiso, Ionescu, etc.

And please don't say Hitler. Unless, of course, you're a neo-nazi than go ahead.

Adolf Hitler.
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9/6/2015 7:58:11 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/3/2015 12:37:11 AM, Atheist-Independent wrote:
For example Churchill, FDR, Mannerheim, Chiang Kai-Shek, Tiso, Ionescu, etc.

And please don't say Hitler. Unless, of course, you're a neo-nazi than go ahead.

My favorite leaders were those of Switzerland, who don't really have an analogue to a 'head of state'. I think that they handled WWII in a way which was absolutely brilliant and minimized the damage to their own people and property.
"The Collectivist experiment is thoroughly suited (in appearance at least) to the Capitalist society which it proposes to replace. It works with the existing machinery of Capitalism, talks and thinks in the existing terms of Capitalism, appeals to just those appetites which Capitalism has aroused, and ridicules as fantastic and unheard-of just those things in society the memory of which Capitalism has killed among men wherever the blight of it has spread."
- Hilaire Belloc -
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9/6/2015 7:59:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/6/2015 7:27:13 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 9/3/2015 12:37:11 AM, Atheist-Independent wrote:
For example Churchill, FDR, Mannerheim, Chiang Kai-Shek, Tiso, Ionescu, etc.

And please don't say Hitler. Unless, of course, you're a neo-nazi than go ahead.

The Head of State which I find most interesting is probably Abraham Lincoln. The man possessed a wit which even to this day seems to go unappreciated by a lot of people, and his entire life is - well - interesting. He was a hands-on President for sure, and he was open to one-on-one debates with almost anyone. No, he wasn't really the "Great Emancipator" that people often make him out to be, but he truly believed in racial equality and the sanctity of the human condition. I think he was a great man.

I don't think that he was alive during WWII...
"The Collectivist experiment is thoroughly suited (in appearance at least) to the Capitalist society which it proposes to replace. It works with the existing machinery of Capitalism, talks and thinks in the existing terms of Capitalism, appeals to just those appetites which Capitalism has aroused, and ridicules as fantastic and unheard-of just those things in society the memory of which Capitalism has killed among men wherever the blight of it has spread."
- Hilaire Belloc -
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9/7/2015 2:00:29 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/6/2015 4:35:02 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 9/4/2015 1:36:19 AM, Atheist-Independent wrote:
At 9/3/2015 2:31:23 PM, XLAV wrote:
Stalin ftw.

...well then
without him russia is weak
weak russia means german victory

Uh huh. If anything he weakened Russia tremendously whether through his purges or through his inability to trust loyal generals.
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9/7/2015 2:02:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/6/2015 7:30:43 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 9/3/2015 2:31:23 PM, XLAV wrote:
Stalin ftw.

I wouldn't pick Stalin because I don't believe that the ends justify the means he employed to consolidate singular power. Stalin could have prevented the war by not being so power-hungry that he made a pact with Hitler to divide Poland between them, as well as awarding himself other territories in exchange for not opposing the German aggression. He didn't give a crap until his own country became the victim.

You think the Soviet Union would somehow not get pulled into a war against the Anti-Comitern pact? War with Germany was inevitable.
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9/7/2015 5:18:35 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 2:00:29 AM, Atheist-Independent wrote:
At 9/6/2015 4:35:02 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 9/4/2015 1:36:19 AM, Atheist-Independent wrote:
At 9/3/2015 2:31:23 PM, XLAV wrote:
Stalin ftw.

...well then
without him russia is weak
weak russia means german victory

Uh huh. If anything he weakened Russia tremendously whether through his purges or through his inability to trust loyal generals.

without stalin, no industrialization
no industrialization, no good economy
no good economy, noob army
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9/7/2015 3:54:13 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 5:18:35 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 9/7/2015 2:00:29 AM, Atheist-Independent wrote:
At 9/6/2015 4:35:02 PM, XLAV wrote:
At 9/4/2015 1:36:19 AM, Atheist-Independent wrote:
At 9/3/2015 2:31:23 PM, XLAV wrote:
Stalin ftw.

...well then
without him russia is weak
weak russia means german victory

Uh huh. If anything he weakened Russia tremendously whether through his purges or through his inability to trust loyal generals.

without stalin, no industrialization
no industrialization, no good economy
no good economy, noob army

I seriously doubt that Stalin was the only man who could have industrialized Russia.
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9/8/2015 3:06:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/7/2015 3:54:13 PM, Atheist-Independent wrote:

I seriously doubt that Stalin was the only man who could have industrialized Russia.

No, Stalin wasn't the only man who could have industrialized Russia.

Stalin was the only man who industrialized Russia fast enough to be ready for WW2.