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6/2/2016 7:18:37 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
There are only 22 countries in the world that were never invaded by Britain. Britain conquered over 1/6 of the earth's surface. France and Germany both conquered most of Europe. And Russia? Russia has been invaded by European coalitions four times in the last 130 years. Perhaps somebody might say that Russia was responsible for mass genocide and repression. Sure, so are plenty of other nations including America.

Russian Aggression?

A common term used to refer to Russia's expansion throughout its history, primarily against the Mongols, Turks, Poles, and Swedes. Yet in all of these situations, Russia was always the country that was attacked first.

WWI and WWII? Russia didn't want to take part in either but it was the Central Powers and then the Axis that declared war on Russia and then invaded.

So why is Russia always the bad guy, whether you look at Hollywood films or Western news outlets.
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6/3/2016 3:09:23 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 6/2/2016 7:18:37 PM, Crimea-2014 wrote:
There are only 22 countries in the world that were never invaded by Britain. Britain conquered over 1/6 of the earth's surface. France and Germany both conquered most of Europe. And Russia? Russia has been invaded by European coalitions four times in the last 130 years. Perhaps somebody might say that Russia was responsible for mass genocide and repression. Sure, so are plenty of other nations including America.

Russian Aggression?

A common term used to refer to Russia's expansion throughout its history, primarily against the Mongols, Turks, Poles, and Swedes. Yet in all of these situations, Russia was always the country that was attacked first.

WWI and WWII? Russia didn't want to take part in either but it was the Central Powers and then the Axis that declared war on Russia and then invaded.

So why is Russia always the bad guy, whether you look at Hollywood films or Western news outlets.

Because after WWII, Russia took over 14 countries, attempted to take over several others, and tried to nuke the United States. In addition, many 20th century Russian leaders, especially Stalin, were responsible for countless human rights abuses in their own country.
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6/3/2016 3:40:54 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 6/2/2016 7:18:37 PM, Crimea-2014 wrote:
There are only 22 countries in the world that were never invaded by Britain. Britain conquered over 1/6 of the earth's surface. France and Germany both conquered most of Europe. And Russia? Russia has been invaded by European coalitions four times in the last 130 years. Perhaps somebody might say that Russia was responsible for mass genocide and repression. Sure, so are plenty of other nations including America.

Russian Aggression?

A common term used to refer to Russia's expansion throughout its history, primarily against the Mongols, Turks, Poles, and Swedes. Yet in all of these situations, Russia was always the country that was attacked first.

WWI and WWII? Russia didn't want to take part in either but it was the Central Powers and then the Axis that declared war on Russia and then invaded.

So why is Russia always the bad guy, whether you look at Hollywood films or Western news outlets.

Other countries are jealous of Putin's bear wrestling and riding abilities.
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6/3/2016 4:07:42 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 6/3/2016 3:09:23 PM, Bob13 wrote:
At 6/2/2016 7:18:37 PM, Crimea-2014 wrote:
There are only 22 countries in the world that were never invaded by Britain. Britain conquered over 1/6 of the earth's surface. France and Germany both conquered most of Europe. And Russia? Russia has been invaded by European coalitions four times in the last 130 years. Perhaps somebody might say that Russia was responsible for mass genocide and repression. Sure, so are plenty of other nations including America.

Russian Aggression?

A common term used to refer to Russia's expansion throughout its history, primarily against the Mongols, Turks, Poles, and Swedes. Yet in all of these situations, Russia was always the country that was attacked first.

WWI and WWII? Russia didn't want to take part in either but it was the Central Powers and then the Axis that declared war on Russia and then invaded.

So why is Russia always the bad guy, whether you look at Hollywood films or Western news outlets.

Because after WWII, Russia took over 14 countries, attempted to take over several others, and tried to nuke the United States. In addition, many 20th century Russian leaders, especially Stalin, were responsible for countless human rights abuses in their own country.

Russia did not attempt to nuke the US. Although they placed nuclear weapons in Cuba it was more for the leverage doing so would give them over the US in future negotiations. My point is that you state that Russia took over other nations and was responsible for countless human rights abuses. But wasn't every great power responsible for this? Examples: America, Britain, France, Germany, Italy, China, Japan. Why does Russia get singled out?
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6/3/2016 6:12:00 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 6/2/2016 7:18:37 PM, Crimea-2014 wrote:
There are only 22 countries in the world that were never invaded by Britain. Britain conquered over 1/6 of the earth's surface. France and Germany both conquered most of Europe. And Russia? Russia has been invaded by European coalitions four times in the last 130 years. Perhaps somebody might say that Russia was responsible for mass genocide and repression. Sure, so are plenty of other nations including America.

Russian Aggression?

A common term used to refer to Russia's expansion throughout its history, primarily against the Mongols, Turks, Poles, and Swedes. Yet in all of these situations, Russia was always the country that was attacked first.

WWI and WWII? Russia didn't want to take part in either but it was the Central Powers and then the Axis that declared war on Russia and then invaded.

So why is Russia always the bad guy, whether you look at Hollywood films or Western news outlets.

Because they need to quit Russian and get Stalin.
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6/3/2016 7:06:40 PM
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At 6/3/2016 6:12:00 PM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 6/2/2016 7:18:37 PM, Crimea-2014 wrote:
There are only 22 countries in the world that were never invaded by Britain. Britain conquered over 1/6 of the earth's surface. France and Germany both conquered most of Europe. And Russia? Russia has been invaded by European coalitions four times in the last 130 years. Perhaps somebody might say that Russia was responsible for mass genocide and repression. Sure, so are plenty of other nations including America.

Russian Aggression?

A common term used to refer to Russia's expansion throughout its history, primarily against the Mongols, Turks, Poles, and Swedes. Yet in all of these situations, Russia was always the country that was attacked first.

WWI and WWII? Russia didn't want to take part in either but it was the Central Powers and then the Axis that declared war on Russia and then invaded.

So why is Russia always the bad guy, whether you look at Hollywood films or Western news outlets.

Because they need to quit Russian and get Stalin.

Although Stalin is responsible for many crimes, he ruled Russia for 30 or so years of the 1200 that Russia existed. Often people like to say that Stalin's crimes were the crimes of the Russian people which is crazy considering Russians suffered as much under his repression as everybody else.
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6/3/2016 7:21:17 PM
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At 6/2/2016 7:18:37 PM, Crimea-2014 wrote:
There are only 22 countries in the world that were never invaded by Britain. Britain conquered over 1/6 of the earth's surface. France and Germany both conquered most of Europe. And Russia? Russia has been invaded by European coalitions four times in the last 130 years. Perhaps somebody might say that Russia was responsible for mass genocide and repression. Sure, so are plenty of other nations including America.

Russian Aggression?

A common term used to refer to Russia's expansion throughout its history, primarily against the Mongols, Turks, Poles, and Swedes. Yet in all of these situations, Russia was always the country that was attacked first.

WWI and WWII? Russia didn't want to take part in either but it was the Central Powers and then the Axis that declared war on Russia and then invaded.

So why is Russia always the bad guy, whether you look at Hollywood films or Western news outlets.

During the cold war the Soviet Union was an obviously evil entity. Post Soviet Russia is in my opinion different.
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6/3/2016 8:08:39 PM
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My reason still stands as valid and not countered.
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6/4/2016 3:07:53 PM
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At 6/3/2016 4:07:42 PM, Crimea-2014 wrote:
At 6/3/2016 3:09:23 PM, Bob13 wrote:
At 6/2/2016 7:18:37 PM, Crimea-2014 wrote:
There are only 22 countries in the world that were never invaded by Britain. Britain conquered over 1/6 of the earth's surface. France and Germany both conquered most of Europe. And Russia? Russia has been invaded by European coalitions four times in the last 130 years. Perhaps somebody might say that Russia was responsible for mass genocide and repression. Sure, so are plenty of other nations including America.

Russian Aggression?

A common term used to refer to Russia's expansion throughout its history, primarily against the Mongols, Turks, Poles, and Swedes. Yet in all of these situations, Russia was always the country that was attacked first.

WWI and WWII? Russia didn't want to take part in either but it was the Central Powers and then the Axis that declared war on Russia and then invaded.

So why is Russia always the bad guy, whether you look at Hollywood films or Western news outlets.

Because after WWII, Russia took over 14 countries, attempted to take over several others, and tried to nuke the United States. In addition, many 20th century Russian leaders, especially Stalin, were responsible for countless human rights abuses in their own country.

Russia did not attempt to nuke the US. Although they placed nuclear weapons in Cuba it was more for the leverage doing so would give them over the US in future negotiations.
Soviet leaders did everything they could to hide the fact that they were putting missiles in Cuba. If American spy planes hadn't discovered the missiles before they were ready to be launched, they would have been launched without hesitation.
My point is that you state that Russia took over other nations and was responsible for countless human rights abuses.
And they still are.
But wasn't every great power responsible for this? Examples: America,
America stopped taking over countries about a hundred years ago, and their government has only supported human rights abuses a couple of times in history.
Britain,
See my response for America.
France,
See my response for Britain.
Germany,
Hasn't had human rights abuses since WWII.
Italy,
See my response for Germany.
China,
Don't pretend that no one hates China.
Japan.
See my response for Italy.
Why does Russia get singled out?
Because out of all the countries who have committed human rights abuses in recent years, Russia has affected other countries the most.
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6/4/2016 11:44:01 PM
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At 6/2/2016 7:18:37 PM, Crimea-2014 wrote:
There are only 22 countries in the world that were never invaded by Britain. Britain conquered over 1/6 of the earth's surface. France and Germany both conquered most of Europe. And Russia? Russia has been invaded by European coalitions four times in the last 130 years. Perhaps somebody might say that Russia was responsible for mass genocide and repression. Sure, so are plenty of other nations including America.

Russian Aggression?

A common term used to refer to Russia's expansion throughout its history, primarily against the Mongols, Turks, Poles, and Swedes. Yet in all of these situations, Russia was always the country that was attacked first.

WWI and WWII? Russia didn't want to take part in either but it was the Central Powers and then the Axis that declared war on Russia and then invaded.

So why is Russia always the bad guy, whether you look at Hollywood films or Western news outlets.

In terms of modern day, I prefer Russia over Western Europe as I find that the destructive and parasitic policies that Western democracies have created are the easiest way of subverting and deleting their own cultures through mass immigration. I also find Putin to be a strong and prideful leader.

On the other hand, Russia has been at the forefront of massive human rights abuses in the 20th century. Not only that, but its sole dominion over Eastern Europe is the reason as to why Eastern European states are currently so underdeveloped, as they couldn't build up their economies in the decades that they were under Soviet occupation.

Russia, I like. The USSR, I hate.
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6/4/2016 11:57:44 PM
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People who hate Russia are almost always American and the reason why they do this is due to the lingering feelings of the cold war that ended almost 30 years ago. People still associate Russia with communism and the abuse of human rights, which is not what happens here.
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6/5/2016 6:02:05 AM
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At 6/4/2016 11:57:44 PM, Syko wrote:
People who hate Russia are almost always American and the reason why they do this is due to the lingering feelings of the cold war that ended almost 30 years ago. People still associate Russia with communism and the abuse of human rights, which is not what happens here.

Yeah, pretty much this. Even our feeling about communist Russia are colored by, dare I say it, privilege. Yes, it was bloody, but the largest country in the world industrialized in less than the span of a single generation.
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1/11/2017 7:04:03 PM
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At 6/4/2016 11:57:44 PM, Syko wrote:
People who hate Russia are almost always American and the reason why they do this is due to the lingering feelings of the cold war that ended almost 30 years ago. People still associate Russia with communism and the abuse of human rights, which is not what happens here.

People that hate Russia are not all Americans, Hungarians, Polish, Czech, Slovakian, Afghans, Romanian, German, Finland, I can go on and on all hate Russia.

Russians are all lying communist bastards who made a deal with Hitler to take over Poland and split the land with Germany until Hitler decided to invade Russia.

After WWII Russia oppressed all the countries in eastern Europe and stole all their resources and made them their satellite states behind the iron curtain. Lenin and Stalin were just as bad as Hitler, but they decided to kill their own people or send them to the gulags. Then the Russian communists invaded Afghanistan, then Crimea and now Ukraine.

Russians are all lying drunk lazy communists who would rather steal from everyone else rather then mine their own resources in the biggest country in the world with the most resources, but they are too lazy to extract their own resources like diamonds and oil and gold that their land has, they would rather invade other countries and take their resources while the rich corrupt former KGB soviets get rich and drunk on vodka in the Kremlin.
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1/13/2017 5:11:15 AM
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People don't hate Russia or the Russian people. Americans may hate Russia but why should they? Russia barely effects the U.S. way of life so why the hate?
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1/13/2017 11:23:13 AM
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At 1/13/2017 5:11:15 AM, GrimlyF wrote:
People don't hate Russia or the Russian people. Americans may hate Russia but why should they? Russia barely effects the U.S. way of life so why the hate?

We have been taught Russia is the enemy.
You can fear your enemy, hate your enemy, or respect your enemy.
The teachers say to hate. The sheeple follow.
This from a nation that claims to be Christ like, who taught us to love our enemy.
It is strange on many levels.

I do get the feeling that the general public hates "Russia", but is ambivalent or even feels sorry for the people. As if the citizens are captive in their own country.
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1/15/2017 8:37:26 AM
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At 1/13/2017 11:23:13 AM, Welfare-Worker wrote:
At 1/13/2017 5:11:15 AM, GrimlyF wrote:
People don't hate Russia or the Russian people. Americans may hate Russia but why should they? Russia barely effects the U.S. way of life so why the hate?

We have been taught Russia is the enemy.
You can fear your enemy, hate your enemy, or respect your enemy.
The teachers say to hate. The sheeple follow.
This from a nation that claims to be Christ like, who taught us to love our enemy.
It is strange on many levels.

I do get the feeling that the general public hates "Russia", but is ambivalent or even feels sorry for the people. As if the citizens are captive in their own country.

Of course Americans are "ambivalent" about Russians. Americans know nothing about Russia or its people or indeed the of the rest of the worlds populations.
They think Russians are still forelock-tugging serfs who blindly follow orders but they are not.
Putin has raised their standard of living, improved the Health System and relaxed the travel regulations. They know he's a crook but they don't care because if they had the chance they would be too. He's respected by the people because he never backs down and unlike the U.S. government he cares nothing for world opinion.
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1/15/2017 12:55:37 PM
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At 1/15/2017 8:37:26 AM, GrimlyF wrote:
At 1/13/2017 11:23:13 AM, Welfare-Worker wrote:
At 1/13/2017 5:11:15 AM, GrimlyF wrote:
People don't hate Russia or the Russian people. Americans may hate Russia but why should they? Russia barely effects the U.S. way of life so why the hate?

We have been taught Russia is the enemy.
You can fear your enemy, hate your enemy, or respect your enemy.
The teachers say to hate. The sheeple follow.
This from a nation that claims to be Christ like, who taught us to love our enemy.
It is strange on many levels.

I do get the feeling that the general public hates "Russia", but is ambivalent or even feels sorry for the people. As if the citizens are captive in their own country.

Of course Americans are "ambivalent" about Russians. Americans know nothing about Russia or its people or indeed the of the rest of the worlds populations.
They think Russians are still forelock-tugging serfs who blindly follow orders but they are not.
Putin has raised their standard of living, improved the Health System and relaxed the travel regulations. They know he's a crook but they don't care because if they had the chance they would be too. He's respected by the people because he never backs down and unlike the U.S. government he cares nothing for world opinion.

Once in a while a USA news cast will show a Russian 'man on the street'.
It is difficult to deny the pride they have in their country, yet some do.