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11/25/2011 7:46:14 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Recently for reason's unknown, I have been really interested in suicides and why people would think of it as an option. If you have any comments, please post or if you have any experience with suicidal thoughts.
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11/26/2011 1:39:55 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I tried to commit suicide once and I used to think about it a lot. I did not actually want to die but I felt that was the best option. I have struggled with depression for about a third of my life. I would often become so depressed and feel so much pain and hopelessness that I thought that death was the only escape from the pain and that the pain was unbearable. Although I knew the pain would go away, I felt it would just come back like it always did and so my entire life I'd just be waiting for the next episode of depression and I decided I didn't want to live like that.
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11/26/2011 6:49:46 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/26/2011 1:39:55 AM, rogue wrote:
I tried to commit suicide once and I used to think about it a lot. I did not actually want to die but I felt that was the best option. I have struggled with depression for about a third of my life. I would often become so depressed and feel so much pain and hopelessness that I thought that death was the only escape from the pain and that the pain was unbearable. Although I knew the pain would go away, I felt it would just come back like it always did and so my entire life I'd just be waiting for the next episode of depression and I decided I didn't want to live like that.

I am so sorry, please know that depression is only temporary. Besides, if you can muster up courage to even attempt suicide, then you have the ability to overcome this depression.
Hang in there <3
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11/26/2011 8:32:40 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/26/2011 6:49:46 AM, wierdman wrote:
At 11/26/2011 1:39:55 AM, rogue wrote:
I tried to commit suicide once and I used to think about it a lot. I did not actually want to die but I felt that was the best option. I have struggled with depression for about a third of my life. I would often become so depressed and feel so much pain and hopelessness that I thought that death was the only escape from the pain and that the pain was unbearable. Although I knew the pain would go away, I felt it would just come back like it always did and so my entire life I'd just be waiting for the next episode of depression and I decided I didn't want to live like that.

I am so sorry, please know that depression is only temporary. Besides, if you can muster up courage to even attempt suicide, then you have the ability to overcome this depression.
Hang in there <3

Not to be the cynic, but from what I've read/been told by doctors, depression technically never goes away. People overcome it and learn to cope/live a happy life anyway, but it technically is always there.
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11/26/2011 8:33:36 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Anyway: I attempted suicide as well. Not out of any sort of depression, or wishing to die, but I had a sort of morbid curiosity, let's just say.
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11/26/2011 9:18:48 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/26/2011 8:33:36 AM, DetectableNinja wrote:
Anyway: I attempted suicide as well. Not out of any sort of depression, or wishing to die, but I had a sort of morbid curiosity, let's just say.

Let's see what would happen if I- die?
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11/26/2011 10:50:04 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/26/2011 8:33:36 AM, DetectableNinja wrote:
Anyway: I attempted suicide as well. Not out of any sort of depression, or wishing to die, but I had a sort of morbid curiosity, let's just say.

How interesting... Exactly what were you curious about?
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11/26/2011 12:05:45 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/26/2011 10:50:04 AM, wierdman wrote:
At 11/26/2011 8:33:36 AM, DetectableNinja wrote:
Anyway: I attempted suicide as well. Not out of any sort of depression, or wishing to die, but I had a sort of morbid curiosity, let's just say.

How interesting... Exactly what were you curious about?

It was like...what is suicide like...what is DEATH like....
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11/26/2011 12:09:10 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/26/2011 1:39:55 AM, rogue wrote:
I tried to commit suicide once and I used to think about it a lot. I did not actually want to die but I felt that was the best option. I have struggled with depression for about a third of my life. I would often become so depressed and feel so much pain and hopelessness that I thought that death was the only escape from the pain and that the pain was unbearable. Although I knew the pain would go away, I felt it would just come back like it always did and so my entire life I'd just be waiting for the next episode of depression and I decided I didn't want to live like that.

According to studies, people who have attempted suicide at least once (and failed) earn 20% more than people who have never attempted suicide. Supposedly many of them use it as an impetus to turn their life around.
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11/26/2011 1:59:19 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/26/2011 12:09:10 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 11/26/2011 1:39:55 AM, rogue wrote:
I tried to commit suicide once and I used to think about it a lot. I did not actually want to die but I felt that was the best option. I have struggled with depression for about a third of my life. I would often become so depressed and feel so much pain and hopelessness that I thought that death was the only escape from the pain and that the pain was unbearable. Although I knew the pain would go away, I felt it would just come back like it always did and so my entire life I'd just be waiting for the next episode of depression and I decided I didn't want to live like that.

According to studies, people who have attempted suicide at least once (and failed) earn 20% more than people who have never attempted suicide. Supposedly many of them use it as an impetus to turn their life around.

Lol, was that clarification really necessary?
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11/26/2011 2:01:23 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/26/2011 1:59:19 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 11/26/2011 12:09:10 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 11/26/2011 1:39:55 AM, rogue wrote:
I tried to commit suicide once and I used to think about it a lot. I did not actually want to die but I felt that was the best option. I have struggled with depression for about a third of my life. I would often become so depressed and feel so much pain and hopelessness that I thought that death was the only escape from the pain and that the pain was unbearable. Although I knew the pain would go away, I felt it would just come back like it always did and so my entire life I'd just be waiting for the next episode of depression and I decided I didn't want to live like that.

According to studies, people who have attempted suicide at least once (and failed) earn 20% more than people who have never attempted suicide. Supposedly many of them use it as an impetus to turn their life around.

Lol, was that clarification really necessary?

I think committing suicide should be a capital offense.
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11/26/2011 2:12:26 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Suicide = murder
abortion = murder

Suicide = abortion?
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11/26/2011 3:08:10 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I really think that people who commit suicide are so touched or hurt to the point where they actually try to kill themselves. The problem is that i need more information on the type of problem.
rogue
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11/27/2011 10:08:48 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/26/2011 6:49:46 AM, wierdman wrote:
At 11/26/2011 1:39:55 AM, rogue wrote:
I tried to commit suicide once and I used to think about it a lot. I did not actually want to die but I felt that was the best option. I have struggled with depression for about a third of my life. I would often become so depressed and feel so much pain and hopelessness that I thought that death was the only escape from the pain and that the pain was unbearable. Although I knew the pain would go away, I felt it would just come back like it always did and so my entire life I'd just be waiting for the next episode of depression and I decided I didn't want to live like that.

I am so sorry, please know that depression is only temporary. Besides, if you can muster up courage to even attempt suicide, then you have the ability to overcome this depression.
Hang in there <3

Haha thanks. Unfortunately depression isn't temporary for me. I have dysthymic disorder. But I'm dealing ok.
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11/27/2011 10:11:20 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/26/2011 3:08:10 PM, wierdman wrote:
I really think that people who commit suicide are so touched or hurt to the point where they actually try to kill themselves. The problem is that i need more information on the type of problem.

The problem is different for everyone. I can tell you mine if you like but most likely it will sound stupid to you. Most reasons found stupid when someone isn't completely irrational lol.
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11/27/2011 10:30:23 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Suicide is the sport of chumps.
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11/29/2011 11:44:02 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/27/2011 10:30:23 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Suicide is the sport of chumps.

Your mother is the sport of chumps.

BTW, this is part of a Yale university lecture on death that address the issue of the rationality of suicide:

It's thought provoking stuff.
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11/29/2011 11:57:41 AM
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At 11/26/2011 2:21:41 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 11/26/2011 2:12:26 PM, bluesteel wrote:
Suicide = murder
abortion = murder

Suicide = abortion?

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11/30/2011 10:38:07 AM
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At 11/26/2011 2:12:26 PM, bluesteel wrote:
Suicide = murder
abortion = murder

Suicide = abortion?

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11/30/2011 10:52:34 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/26/2011 6:49:46 AM, wierdman wrote:

I am so sorry, please know that depression is only temporary. Besides, if you can muster up courage to even attempt suicide, then you have the ability to overcome this depression.
Hang in there <3

That's actually on pretty much every list of what not to say to someone experiencing Depression lol

It's pretty much agreed in the Psychological community that Depression is for life... I'm starting to doubt that though.
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12/1/2011 3:42:33 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/30/2011 10:52:34 PM, nonentity wrote:
At 11/26/2011 6:49:46 AM, wierdman wrote:

I am so sorry, please know that depression is only temporary. Besides, if you can muster up courage to even attempt suicide, then you have the ability to overcome this depression.
Hang in there <3

That's actually on pretty much every list of what not to say to someone experiencing Depression lol


This. If someone has felt shitty through almost their entire lifespan, its almost akin to saying "Yea, go kill yourself".
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12/1/2011 5:12:06 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/27/2011 10:11:20 PM, rogue wrote:
At 11/26/2011 3:08:10 PM, wierdman wrote:
I really think that people who commit suicide are so touched or hurt to the point where they actually try to kill themselves. The problem is that i need more information on the type of problem.

The problem is different for everyone. I can tell you mine if you like but most likely it will sound stupid to you. Most reasons found stupid when someone isn't completely irrational lol.

Indeed
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12/1/2011 11:18:50 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/30/2011 11:08:21 AM, mtw wrote:
Life isn't worth living
Death isn't worth dying

hmmm

call it
*flips coin*

I actually did flip a coin over it. It came up death. I chickened out though.
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12/2/2011 7:51:48 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/1/2011 11:18:50 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 11/30/2011 11:08:21 AM, mtw wrote:
Life isn't worth living
Death isn't worth dying

hmmm

call it
*flips coin*

I actually did flip a coin over it. It came up death. I chickened out though.

Coins have lead me to do some terrible stuff, I think I should give them up.