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4/29/2012 5:47:49 PM
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Many anti-dress code people argue that dress code stifles "expression". Well tell me, what can you "express" with clothes? Dark shirts =sad, light =happy? Seriously, what "expression" can clothes be?
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4/29/2012 5:53:19 PM
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At 4/29/2012 5:47:49 PM, 1dustpelt wrote:
Many anti-dress code people argue that dress code stifles "expression". Well tell me, what can you "express" with clothes? Dark shirts =sad, light =happy? Seriously, what "expression" can clothes be?

Im all for freedom of expression and stuff, but this issue is so petty compared to things like creationism in schools and stuff. I think its because the media pumps our kids full of this "Feel good, be yourself, the world is disneyland" crap.
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4/29/2012 6:05:12 PM
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It all depends on your label. I for one am a bit of an emo/gothic freak so I tend to wear black a lot.
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4/29/2012 6:18:26 PM
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At 4/29/2012 6:05:12 PM, kyro90 wrote:
It all depends on your label. I for one am a bit of an emo/gothic freak so I tend to wear black a lot.

No wonder the people in your profile pics are always dressed in black
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4/29/2012 7:02:33 PM
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At 4/29/2012 6:18:26 PM, 1dustpelt wrote:
At 4/29/2012 6:05:12 PM, kyro90 wrote:
It all depends on your label. I for one am a bit of an emo/gothic freak so I tend to wear black a lot.

No wonder the people in your profile pics are always dressed in black

Duh!?!? xD
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4/29/2012 7:06:30 PM
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At 4/29/2012 5:47:49 PM, 1dustpelt wrote:
Many anti-dress code people argue that dress code stifles "expression". Well tell me, what can you "express" with clothes? Dark shirts =sad, light =happy? Seriously, what "expression" can clothes be?

idk ... I think it has to do with what you're more comfortable wearing. At least, that's what it is with me. Other people just buy whatever is in fashion no matter how ridiculous it might be, lol. I remember there was this girl with shorts so short, that her shirt went over her shorts and I thought she wasn't wearing pants.
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4/29/2012 7:09:10 PM
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Clothes express whatever people think they express or whatever they want them to express.

Objectively, what do they express? When I wear clothes, the message I'm sending is:

"I'm currently wearing clothing."
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4/29/2012 8:14:20 PM
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Close are an expression in and of themselves. They greatly contribute to your appearance, and thus, your individuality as well as how you choose to be perceived by the world.
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4/30/2012 10:13:32 AM
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That argument really only applies to, like, t-shirts with slogans on them. Even in that case it's ridicdulous. Clothing doesn't express anything but boundary lines between cliques. (I'm not saying that uniforms solve this problem)
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Some girl once told me that "It's not just a shirt, it's my personality". My thinking is that if you need a shirt to have a personality, then you have bigger problems than what to wear.
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4/30/2012 11:42:09 AM
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Clothes are an outer expression of our inner nature.

Unfortunately, we live in a world where judgement on another happens very often. This is human nature. Clothes represent many, many things - how clean you are, how much money you have, how stable you are, how open you are, etc. etc.
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4/30/2012 2:22:16 PM
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At 4/30/2012 10:13:32 AM, devinni01841 wrote:
That argument really only applies to, like, t-shirts with slogans on them. Even in that case it's ridicdulous. Clothing doesn't express anything but boundary lines between cliques. (I'm not saying that uniforms solve this problem)
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Some girl once told me that "It's not just a shirt, it's my personality". My thinking is that if you need a shirt to have a personality, then you have bigger problems than what to wear.

I totally agree with this woman. If I didnt have my skinny jeans, Idk what id do.
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4/30/2012 2:25:22 PM
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At 4/29/2012 6:05:12 PM, kyro90 wrote:
It all depends on your label. I for one am a bit of an emo/gothic freak so I tend to wear black a lot.

I've always wondered, is summer just hell for kids who go with the emo look? I remember in high school some of the kids always wore black jeans and a black sweatshirt, even if it was 95 and high humidity out.
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4/30/2012 2:28:28 PM
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At 4/30/2012 2:25:22 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/29/2012 6:05:12 PM, kyro90 wrote:
It all depends on your label. I for one am a bit of an emo/gothic freak so I tend to wear black a lot.

I've always wondered, is summer just hell for kids who go with the emo look? I remember in high school some of the kids always wore black jeans and a black sweatshirt, even if it was 95 and high humidity out.

Its not that bad but I hate the hot weather. Ive always loved the cold since I was born in New York so I tend to wear Black.
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4/30/2012 2:40:03 PM
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At 4/30/2012 11:42:09 AM, Lickdafoot wrote:
Clothes are an outer expression of our inner nature.

Unfortunately, we live in a world where judgement on another happens very often. This is human nature. Clothes represent many, many things - how clean you are, how much money you have, how stable you are, how open you are, etc. etc.

How stable, open? How?
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4/30/2012 3:34:52 PM
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At 4/30/2012 2:40:03 PM, 1dustpelt wrote:
At 4/30/2012 11:42:09 AM, Lickdafoot wrote:
Clothes are an outer expression of our inner nature.

Unfortunately, we live in a world where judgement on another happens very often. This is human nature. Clothes represent many, many things - how clean you are, how much money you have, how stable you are, how open you are, etc. etc.

How stable, open? How?

How? because your clothes are a reflection of how you perceive yourself. Granted, clothes are on the surface and these are surface issues. They don't give you a full sense about a person. Like i said, this is a judgmental world, and we present ourselves how we feel about ourselves and how we want others to perceive us. Let me give you a few examples.

Take a look at subject number 1:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com...

This person is wearing clothes that are meant for someone half of their size. They likely have a disconnected sense of self and aren't very stable.

http://magfashion.net...

This is for a photo shoot but imagine that it's not. This girl is comfortable with herself and doesn't mind taking risks.

http://img2.timeinc.net...

This girl is shy and can be self-defeating. She's not comfortable in her body. She doesn't take much risk. She's the type that likes to blend in. She is probably calm but sensitive.

http://www.flickr.com...

this person is guarded. he likes to set himself apart from people and puts himself at a distance. Not very open.

http://image.made-in-china.com...

and.. this guy means serious business. confidence. stability.

it's just about how you choose to portray yourself. how you portray yourself is a direct relation of how people will treat you. people treat you how you ask to be treated. your outfit is part of that. you would be more inclined to take orders and say "yes sir" to the guy in the suit rather than the guy in the goth outfit.

Sure, it might seem superficial, and people deserve more than a quick judgement, but it is what it is.
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4/30/2012 4:34:33 PM
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At 4/30/2012 3:45:55 PM, drafterman wrote:
Sweater puppets.

That is all.

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5/1/2012 9:00:34 AM
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At 4/30/2012 2:22:16 PM, kyro90 wrote:
At 4/30/2012 10:13:32 AM, devinni01841 wrote:
That argument really only applies to, like, t-shirts with slogans on them. Even in that case it's ridicdulous. Clothing doesn't express anything but boundary lines between cliques. (I'm not saying that uniforms solve this problem)
.
Some girl once told me that "It's not just a shirt, it's my personality". My thinking is that if you need a shirt to have a personality, then you have bigger problems than what to wear.

I totally agree with this woman. If I didnt have my skinny jeans, Idk what id do.

My point is proven.. you shouldn't need a certain kind of clothes to be who you are.
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