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Why are celebrities liberals?

HandsOff
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10/26/2008 9:27:03 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
Why are so many celebrities liberals. Sure peer pressure plays a role. Who wants to get black balled and risk ruinning his/her career. But in addition to peer presssure (and more so) I think it has to do with the fact that celebrities attribute much of their success to good fortune versus hard work and planning. Let's face it, if most successful actors, musicians, and anchor personalities are aware that if they weren't given that big "lucky" break, they'd still be waiting tables or washing dishes somewhere. These are true rags-to-riches strories. Instead of taking the prudent route and preparing themselves with a solid education, these folks opted to roll the dice, and they feel lucky to have won. I believe the less one believes he controls his own destiny, the more likely he is to be a liberal.
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10/26/2008 9:44:35 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
First off, liberal does not necessarily mean communist. Many liberals simply seek social equality for people.

For instance, liberals tend to support gay marriage and/or civil unions much more than conservatives. This is most likely due to the fact that conservatism has come to include the very religious people [oddly enough, whereas someone like Jesus almost certainly would be a liberal].

Second, a person is not completely in control of their economic destiny. People who are born poor have an extremely high chance of remaining poor, regardless of personal merit. They have FAR more to overcome in order to achieve success.
Economic liberals want all people to have a fair shake at life, regardless of their economic roots. Why should a child born to a wealthy family have barely any troubles in life where a child born to poor parents has huge obstacles to overcome in order to succeed? In a purely capitalistic economy, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Even with our progressive taxation, the gap between rich and poor has continued to grow. More and more, rich kids are being born into their success, rather than having to work for it, whereas success is becoming more and more out of reach for the poor of America.
Rags to riches stories often rely on overcoming overwhelming odds. It's not a matter of rolling the dice - people still have to work for their success. It's a matter of working extremely hard to escape the barriers of your current economic class.

The underlying principle of economic liberalism is this - people should have to work just as hard to obtain their success - whether they were born rich or poor.
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10/26/2008 9:56:58 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
At 10/26/2008 9:52:18 PM, HandsOff wrote:
Back on topic: Why are so many celebrities liberals??

The flaw in your argument is that plenty of celebrities are Conservatives/Republicans.
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10/26/2008 10:18:49 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
At 10/26/2008 9:50:59 PM, HandsOff wrote:
Who said communist? Liberal is to communist what warm is to hot.

Liberal economics is more _toward_ communist ideals.
There's useful content in my post regardless. I'm sorry if the word 'communist' wasn't exactly fitting, simply replace it with whatever word you want for liberal economics [progressive taxing, programs to help the poor, etc].
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10/26/2008 10:23:27 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
Sorry for the double post, I just wanted to highlight the most important thing about my original post, lest it go ignored again.

Like HandsOff said, if a person doesn't think they're in complete control of their destiny, they're more likely to be a liberal.
People aren't in complete control of their destiny. People are often born into wealth or poverty. It takes great screw ups to lose great wealth you are born into, and it take a great deal of effort to escape poverty you are born into.
Liberals see this as unfair - they believe that people should all have to work just as hard to achieve success.
Of course, this is generally speaking. Perhaps some liberals disagree, or some conservatives agree.
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10/26/2008 10:28:44 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
"The flaw in your argument is that plenty of celebrities are Conservatives/Republicans."

By comparison, not even a drop in the bucket. Anyway, I don't to argue about my theory. Just want to know what your's is for explaining the dominance of left-wing politics in showbiz and the media.
JBlake
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10/26/2008 10:31:35 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
At 10/26/2008 10:28:44 PM, HandsOff wrote:
"The flaw in your argument is that plenty of celebrities are Conservatives/Republicans."

By comparison, not even a drop in the bucket. Anyway, I don't to argue about my theory. Just want to know what your's is for explaining the dominance of left-wing politics in showbiz and the media.

Liberalism is more sexy?
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10/27/2008 10:18:54 AM
Posted: 8 years ago
That's funny, I didn't get even one interesting answers from the dems on this site as to why celebrities are mostly liberal. All I'm getting are defensive comments.

I'll take a wack at answerig your question. Hope you return the favor. Conservatives dominate talk radio (you're wong about the newspapers) because of who their audience is. Conservatives are typically older than liberals, and they tend to have more responsibilities. I'll bet they spend much of their time in the car or at the office. It's difficult to watch TV when you're busy earning a living to support your family and your government.
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10/27/2008 12:39:53 PM
Posted: 8 years ago

Second, a person is not completely in control of their economic destiny. People who are born poor have an extremely high chance of remaining poor, regardless of personal merit.

In a Keynesian economy where regulations make sure banks are too big too fail, and make sure anyone trying to start up a business will get taxed out the wazoo... DUH!

A free market is a different story.
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Harlan
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10/27/2008 2:02:13 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
When you hear celebrities in the media talk about politics, it is usually for entertainment purposes, since they are celebrities, and this is the media, that were talking about. Entertainment means comedy, and there isn't much critical comedy you can make of liberal ideas. Most political jokes in media are ones made by people on the left.

The republican party is very... phony. Of course, almost all politicians are, but the republican party is alot more involved in talking points. you can make more jokes off of them, in that manner.
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10/27/2008 3:26:07 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
So your theory is that they are liberal because it makes for better comedy? Inside they are really conservatives? I was hoping for a serious answer. Is there any plausible explanation besides my first theory?
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12/8/2010 9:40:20 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
One explanation may be that celebrities (especially pop stars) tend to be young and younger people tend to be more idealistic than older folks.

Some people say: "If you're not a socialist when you're 18 you've got no heart, but if you're still a socialist when you're 30 you've got no brain."

I don't know about that, but people do tend to become more right-wing as they get older (and pay more taxes).
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