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12/16/2012 11:47:44 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Specifically the U.K., but anyone really...

I have worked in the service industry for years, where it is customary to tip. I have heard that this is not the case in many places. In England, I have heard that tipping is considered an insult. As I have never left the country, I was wondering:

Is it true that tipping is not customary? If so, is it considered rude?
If tipping is not customary, how much do waitors make per hour (compared to a minimum wage or other metric)?

Thanks for any input.
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12/17/2012 12:55:13 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
REGIONAL TIPPING TIPS

Asia/the Pacific: Special care must be taken to ensure that your well-meaning gesture is not taken as insulting. If you are unsure, it is best not to tip. If possible, observe the locals and follow their lead.

Europe: Many hotels and restaurants add a service charge to the bill. In most cases, an additional tip is unnecessary. If no service charge is added to your bill, 10% is the general rule for restaurant service, and $1 per bag for a hotel porter.

Middle East/Africa: While your tip will not be seen as insulting, it may be unnecessary. Once again, the best bet is to do as the locals do.

Central/South America: Many hotels and restaurants add a service charge to the bill, and an additional tip is unnecessary. If not, 10% is the general rule for restaurant service, and the equivalent of $1 per bag for a porter.

FOREIGN TIPPING GUIDE - COUNTRY

This list is by country, and then waiter/waitress, porter, and taxi driver categories.

Argentina
W/W: 10%
P: $1
TD: Round up taxi fare or small tip

Australia
W/W: 10% in fine restaurants only
P: $2 per bag
TD: Round up

Austria
W/W: 5% plus service charge
P: $1 to $2 per bag
TD: Round up

Bahamas
W/W: 10%
P: $1 per bag
TD: 10% (15% actual per local FTer

Belgium
W/W: 10% if no service charge
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Brazil
W/W: 10% to 15%
P: $1 per bag
TD: 10%

Brunei
W/W: None
P: None
TD: None

Canada
W/W: 15% ranges from 10%-20% per local FTers
P: $1 to $2 per bag
TD: 10%

Cayman Islands
W/W: 15% if no service charge
P: $1 per bag
TD: 10%

Chile
W/W: 10% in addition to service charge
P: $1 per bag
TD: None

China
W/W: 3% in major cities (according to local FTers; 0%)
P: $1 to $2 (according to local FTers, none)
TD: None

Colombia
W/W: 10%
P: 75 cents per bag
TD: None

Costa Rica
W/W: None
P: $1 per bag
TD: 10%

Czech Republic
W/W: 5% to 10%
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Denmark
W/W: None
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Ecuador
W/W: 10% if no service charge
P: 75 cents per bag
TD: None

Egypt
W/W: 5% to 10% plus service charge
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Estonia
W/W: 10-15% for restaurants (in pubs toss spare change into big shared bowl for waitresses)
P: ?
TD: ?

Fiji
W/W: None
P: None
TD: Round up

Finland
W/W: None
P: None
TD: If you pay by credit card - none. If you pay with cash - none if you don't want to, but rounding up is acceptable to avoid hassling with coins.

France
W/W: 5% to 10%
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Germany
W/W: 5% to 10% or round up plus euro or two per some FTers
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Greece
W/W: 5% to 10% plus service charge
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Hong Kong
W/W: 10% plus service charge if svg charge no need to add 10% per local FTer or round up
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Hungary
W/W: 10% if no service charge
P: None
TD: Round up

India
W/W: 10% if no service charge
P: $1 per bag (according to local FTers 50cents/bag)
TD: Round up

Indonesia
W/W: 10%
P: 50 cents
TD: Round up

Ireland
W/W: 10% to 15%
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Israel
W/W: 12% to 15% if no service charge
P: $1 per bag
TD: 12% to 15% (according to local FTers, tips included in fares; could tip but not 12-15%)

Italy
W/W: 10% plus service charge
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Japan
W/W: None
P: None
TD: None

Malaysia
W/W: None
P: None
TD: None

Mexico
W/W: 10% to 15%
P: $1
TD: 50 cents

Morocco
W/W: Leave loose change
P: 50 cents per bag
TD: Round up

Netherlands
W/W: 5% to 10%
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

New Zealand
W/W: None
P: None
TD: None

Norway
W/W: 10% if no service charge
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Oman
W/W: None
P: None
TD: None

Peru
W/W: Up to 10% for special service
P: 75cents per bag
TD: None

Philippines
W/W: 10%
P: 50 cents to $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Poland
W/W: 10%
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Portugal
W/W: 10% to 15% if no service charge
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Romania
W/W: Round up bill
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Russia
W/W: 10% to 15%
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Samoa
W/W: None
P: None
TD: None

Saudi Arabia
W/W: 10% to 15%
P: $1 to $2 per bag
TD: 10%

Singapore
W/W: None
P: None
TD: None

South Africa
W/W: 10% if no service charge
P: 50 cents
TD: 10%

South Korea
W/W: None
P: None
TD: None

Spain
W/W: 7% to 10% plus service charges
P: $1 per bag
TD: 10%

Sweden
W/W: 10% if no service charge
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Switzerland
W/W: Round up
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Taiwan
W/W: 10% if no service charge (none according to local FTer)
P: $1 per bag
TD: None

Tanzania
W/W: 10%
P: None
TD: None

Thailand
W/W: None see post # 32 in this thread for update by local FTer
P: None see post # 32 in this thread for update by local FTer
TD: None see post # 32 in this thread for update by local FTer

Turkey
W/W: Round up
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

United Arab Emirates
W/W: None
P: None
TD: None

United Kingdom
W/W: 10% if no service charge
P: $1 per bag
TD: 15% (according to local FTers 10% or round up to nearest pound)

USA
W/W: 15% to 20%
P: $1 to $2 per bag
TD: 10% to 15%

Venezula
W/W: 10%
P: 75 cents per bag
TD: 10%

Vietnam
W/W: None
P: None
TD: None
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12/17/2012 2:15:07 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/17/2012 1:11:19 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Thanks, where did you find this?

Also, is there anyone here that will confirm this?

http://www.flyertalk.com...

I don't know. You may have to search a few more sites.
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12/17/2012 2:21:35 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/16/2012 11:47:44 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Specifically the U.K., but anyone really...

I have worked in the service industry for years, where it is customary to tip. I have heard that this is not the case in many places. In England, I have heard that tipping is considered an insult. As I have never left the country, I was wondering:

Is it true that tipping is not customary? If so, is it considered rude?
If tipping is not customary, how much do waitors make per hour (compared to a minimum wage or other metric)?

Thanks for any input.

I don't think tipping is considered an insult... I mean, who wouldn't want some extra money?

It definitely isn't customary, although my family's American so we do it anyway.
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12/17/2012 3:18:44 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/17/2012 12:55:13 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
REGIONAL TIPPING TIPS

Asia/the Pacific: Special care must be taken to ensure that your well-meaning gesture is not taken as insulting. If you are unsure, it is best not to tip. If possible, observe the locals and follow their lead.

Europe: Many hotels and restaurants add a service charge to the bill. In most cases, an additional tip is unnecessary. If no service charge is added to your bill, 10% is the general rule for restaurant service, and $1 per bag for a hotel porter.

Middle East/Africa: While your tip will not be seen as insulting, it may be unnecessary. Once again, the best bet is to do as the locals do.

Central/South America: Many hotels and restaurants add a service charge to the bill, and an additional tip is unnecessary. If not, 10% is the general rule for restaurant service, and the equivalent of $1 per bag for a porter.

FOREIGN TIPPING GUIDE - COUNTRY

This list is by country, and then waiter/waitress, porter, and taxi driver categories.

Argentina
W/W: 10%
P: $1
TD: Round up taxi fare or small tip

Australia
W/W: 10% in fine restaurants only
P: $2 per bag
TD: Round up

Austria
W/W: 5% plus service charge
P: $1 to $2 per bag
TD: Round up

Bahamas
W/W: 10%
P: $1 per bag
TD: 10% (15% actual per local FTer

Belgium
W/W: 10% if no service charge
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Brazil
W/W: 10% to 15%
P: $1 per bag
TD: 10%

Brunei
W/W: None
P: None
TD: None

Canada
W/W: 15% ranges from 10%-20% per local FTers
P: $1 to $2 per bag
TD: 10%

Cayman Islands
W/W: 15% if no service charge
P: $1 per bag
TD: 10%

Chile
W/W: 10% in addition to service charge
P: $1 per bag
TD: None

China
W/W: 3% in major cities (according to local FTers; 0%)
P: $1 to $2 (according to local FTers, none)
TD: None

Colombia
W/W: 10%
P: 75 cents per bag
TD: None

Costa Rica
W/W: None
P: $1 per bag
TD: 10%

Czech Republic
W/W: 5% to 10%
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Denmark
W/W: None
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Ecuador
W/W: 10% if no service charge
P: 75 cents per bag
TD: None

Egypt
W/W: 5% to 10% plus service charge
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Estonia
W/W: 10-15% for restaurants (in pubs toss spare change into big shared bowl for waitresses)
P: ?
TD: ?

Fiji
W/W: None
P: None
TD: Round up

Finland
W/W: None
P: None
TD: If you pay by credit card - none. If you pay with cash - none if you don't want to, but rounding up is acceptable to avoid hassling with coins.

France
W/W: 5% to 10%
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Germany
W/W: 5% to 10% or round up plus euro or two per some FTers
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Greece
W/W: 5% to 10% plus service charge
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Hong Kong
W/W: 10% plus service charge if svg charge no need to add 10% per local FTer or round up
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Hungary
W/W: 10% if no service charge
P: None
TD: Round up

India
W/W: 10% if no service charge
P: $1 per bag (according to local FTers 50cents/bag)
TD: Round up

Indonesia
W/W: 10%
P: 50 cents
TD: Round up

Ireland
W/W: 10% to 15%
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Israel
W/W: 12% to 15% if no service charge
P: $1 per bag
TD: 12% to 15% (according to local FTers, tips included in fares; could tip but not 12-15%)

Italy
W/W: 10% plus service charge
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Japan
W/W: None
P: None
TD: None

Malaysia
W/W: None
P: None
TD: None

Mexico
W/W: 10% to 15%
P: $1
TD: 50 cents

Morocco
W/W: Leave loose change
P: 50 cents per bag
TD: Round up

Netherlands
W/W: 5% to 10%
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

New Zealand
W/W: None
P: None
TD: None

Norway
W/W: 10% if no service charge
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Oman
W/W: None
P: None
TD: None

Peru
W/W: Up to 10% for special service
P: 75cents per bag
TD: None

Philippines
W/W: 10%
P: 50 cents to $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Poland
W/W: 10%
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Portugal
W/W: 10% to 15% if no service charge
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Romania
W/W: Round up bill
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Russia
W/W: 10% to 15%
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Samoa
W/W: None
P: None
TD: None

Saudi Arabia
W/W: 10% to 15%
P: $1 to $2 per bag
TD: 10%

Singapore
W/W: None
P: None
TD: None

South Africa
W/W: 10% if no service charge
P: 50 cents
TD: 10%

South Korea
W/W: None
P: None
TD: None

Spain
W/W: 7% to 10% plus service charges
P: $1 per bag
TD: 10%

Sweden
W/W: 10% if no service charge
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Switzerland
W/W: Round up
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

Taiwan
W/W: 10% if no service charge (none according to local FTer)
P: $1 per bag
TD: None

Tanzania
W/W: 10%
P: None
TD: None

Thailand
W/W: None see post # 32 in this thread for update by local FTer
P: None see post # 32 in this thread for update by local FTer
TD: None see post # 32 in this thread for update by local FTer

Turkey
W/W: Round up
P: $1 per bag
TD: Round up

United Arab Emirates
W/W: None
P: None
TD: None

United Kingdom
W/W: 10% if no service charge
P: $1 per bag
TD: 15% (according to local FTers 10% or round up to nearest pound)

USA
W/W: 15% to 20%
P: $1 to $2 per bag
TD: 10% to 15%

Venezula
W/W: 10%
P: 75 cents per bag
TD: 10%

Vietnam
W/W: None
P: None
TD: None
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Central and South America depends on the context. If you are at a place where locals are less likely to be, you will have some expectation to tip moderately, but if you are at a local cantina or cafe, tipping is less expected, but if you are a foreigner you are pretty scummy to not tip people who make about $100. a month.
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12/20/2012 6:32:39 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
In Britain you never leave tips in a pub " to do so would mark you out as someone who had just stepped off the plane! If you want to thank the bar tender for exceptionally good service (and this is rare in Britain) then it is customary to offer to buy them a drink (which, if accepted, will often be drunk after closing time).

Some trendy up-market bars present your change on a little silver platter and you can choose not to take it all back, but it is no way considered rude to keep all your change.

Even though service charge is often included in restaurant bills, many people leave cash tip for the waiter / waitress on top as many restaurant owners don"t pass the tips on to the staff.

Taxi drivers usually expect a tip of about 10% but other than the aforementioned, tipping is not required nr expected.
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12/20/2012 9:27:11 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/20/2012 6:32:39 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
In Britain you never leave tips in a pub " to do so would mark you out as someone who had just stepped off the plane! If you want to thank the bar tender for exceptionally good service (and this is rare in Britain) then it is customary to offer to buy them a drink (which, if accepted, will often be drunk after closing time).

Some trendy up-market bars present your change on a little silver platter and you can choose not to take it all back, but it is no way considered rude to keep all your change.

Even though service charge is often included in restaurant bills, many people leave cash tip for the waiter / waitress on top as many restaurant owners don"t pass the tips on to the staff.

Taxi drivers usually expect a tip of about 10% but other than the aforementioned, tipping is not required nr expected.

Pretty much this. Tipping in coffee shops and for doing bags and shizzle pretty much doesn't happen.
Those who would normally receive tips in America are generally working at around minimum wage.

And for the record a tipping culture is retarded.
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12/21/2012 5:48:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Yes. Completely rude. In fact, when I'm in the US and have to tip, I start breaking out in a sweat because it so goes against my instincts.

But everyone knows Americans tip, so if you're obviously American and do it nobody will be offended.
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1/1/2013 12:51:28 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/16/2012 11:47:44 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
Is it true that tipping is not customary? If so, is it considered rude?
Tipping is not customary in Denmark. It is not rude and you can do it for extremly good service, but some places it would just be strange
If tipping is not customary, how much do waitors make per hour (compared to a minimum wage or other metric)?
We don't have a minimum wage, but in general the pay is quit low. A bit under 20 dollars an hour, but it cam easly be higher if you have an education, experience or work at the right place.
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1/1/2013 2:36:57 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/1/2013 12:51:28 AM, OllerupMand wrote:
A bit under 20 dollars an hour, but it cam easly be higher if you have an education, experience or work at the right place.

.... For a waiter?
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1/1/2013 7:55:37 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/1/2013 2:36:57 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 1/1/2013 12:51:28 AM, OllerupMand wrote:
A bit under 20 dollars an hour, but it cam easly be higher if you have an education, experience or work at the right place.

.... For a waiter?

Yesm but it is before taxes.

How must do you earn in the US?
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1/1/2013 12:19:08 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/1/2013 7:55:37 AM, OllerupMand wrote:
At 1/1/2013 2:36:57 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 1/1/2013 12:51:28 AM, OllerupMand wrote:
A bit under 20 dollars an hour, but it cam easly be higher if you have an education, experience or work at the right place.

.... For a waiter?

Yesm but it is before taxes.

How must do you earn in the US?

From a quick google search it's something like $5-7 per hour + tips, which equals somewhere around $13-15 per hour.
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1/1/2013 12:33:08 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
The OP is simply wrong. I come from the UK, and tipping is not just common, but it is considered insulting if you do not. Most money is made by waiters and waitresses through tips.
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1/1/2013 12:35:10 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/20/2012 9:27:11 AM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 12/20/2012 6:32:39 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
In Britain you never leave tips in a pub " to do so would mark you out as someone who had just stepped off the plane! If you want to thank the bar tender for exceptionally good service (and this is rare in Britain) then it is customary to offer to buy them a drink (which, if accepted, will often be drunk after closing time).

Some trendy up-market bars present your change on a little silver platter and you can choose not to take it all back, but it is no way considered rude to keep all your change.

Even though service charge is often included in restaurant bills, many people leave cash tip for the waiter / waitress on top as many restaurant owners don"t pass the tips on to the staff.

Taxi drivers usually expect a tip of about 10% but other than the aforementioned, tipping is not required nr expected.

Pretty much this. Tipping in coffee shops and for doing bags and shizzle pretty much doesn't happen.
Those who would normally receive tips in America are generally working at around minimum wage.

And for the record a tipping culture is retarded.

Different experience to me. With pubs and bag packing and similar I agree it doesn't happen, but when I think of tipping I think of restaraunts, and you tip those who serve if it is a good meal (excluding then of course e.g. MacDonalds)
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1/2/2013 7:09:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/1/2013 12:35:10 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
At 12/20/2012 9:27:11 AM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 12/20/2012 6:32:39 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
In Britain you never leave tips in a pub " to do so would mark you out as someone who had just stepped off the plane! If you want to thank the bar tender for exceptionally good service (and this is rare in Britain) then it is customary to offer to buy them a drink (which, if accepted, will often be drunk after closing time).

Some trendy up-market bars present your change on a little silver platter and you can choose not to take it all back, but it is no way considered rude to keep all your change.

Even though service charge is often included in restaurant bills, many people leave cash tip for the waiter / waitress on top as many restaurant owners don"t pass the tips on to the staff.

Taxi drivers usually expect a tip of about 10% but other than the aforementioned, tipping is not required nr expected.

Pretty much this. Tipping in coffee shops and for doing bags and shizzle pretty much doesn't happen.
Those who would normally receive tips in America are generally working at around minimum wage.

And for the record a tipping culture is retarded.

Different experience to me. With pubs and bag packing and similar I agree it doesn't happen, but when I think of tipping I think of restaraunts, and you tip those who serve if it is a good meal (excluding then of course e.g. MacDonalds)

Hence the "this" where Brian spoke about restaurants... I was just pointing out places where they might tip in america where we won't
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1/8/2013 8:57:31 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
all i know is malaysian do not have tipping practice...
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