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Emorose
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10/31/2009 5:17:26 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Hack into their children's accounts on every website, read through all the emails, and IM's, debates, forum posts etc, and even pretend to be their children?
If so, why? (if not, why?)

You can agree with some of those and disagree with other's I just wanna know what you think. Plus my dad hacked this so I think maybe he'll read it too, and that would be kinda funny lol ^_^

Also Happy Holloween! May the Candy be with you!
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10/31/2009 5:23:35 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/31/2009 5:17:26 PM, Emorose wrote:
Hack into their children's accounts on every website, read through all the emails, and IM's, debates, forum posts etc, and even pretend to be their children?
If so, why? (if not, why?)

No. No, no, no. If they ask their children, they should get an affirmative response. They should have nothing to hide (as long as they regularly delete their history). But if a Parent puts their child on a computer without any pre existing conditions, then just no. Anyone hacking anyones acount is wrong.
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Emorose
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10/31/2009 5:28:49 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
No. No, no, no. If they ask their children, they should get an affirmative response. They should have nothing to hide (as long as they regularly delete their history). But if a Parent puts their child on a computer without any pre existing conditions, then just no. Anyone hacking anyones acount is wrong.

I agree completely actually, lol.

I wish my parents would.
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10/31/2009 5:40:13 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
hey should have nothing to hide (as long as they regularly delete their history)
So win.

But savvy parents know that there should be a history and will get angry if you delete it all. You need to learn how to selectively delete it.

Who is going to do the disallowing?
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10/31/2009 5:41:50 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/31/2009 5:40:13 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
hey should have nothing to hide (as long as they regularly delete their history)
So win.

But savvy parents know that there should be a history and will get angry if you delete it all. You need to learn how to selectively delete it.

Or Download the new firefox and say you have private browsing on. Or indeed use private browsing.

Who is going to do the disallowing?

Well, what authority stops hacking in general? What authority used the party van to get the Palin e-mail hacker?
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10/31/2009 6:33:32 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/31/2009 5:41:50 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 10/31/2009 5:40:13 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
hey should have nothing to hide (as long as they regularly delete their history)
So win.

But savvy parents know that there should be a history and will get angry if you delete it all. You need to learn how to selectively delete it.


Or Download the new firefox and say you have private browsing on. Or indeed use private browsing.
If you say you have private browsing on you're in trouble. Using it is far more valid, as long as you turn it off when you visit legitimate sites and when you log out.


Who is going to do the disallowing?

Well, what authority stops hacking in general? What authority used the party van to get the Palin e-mail hacker?
An authority that doesn't like to interfere with how parents treat their children short of physical abuse.
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10/31/2009 6:37:12 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/31/2009 6:33:32 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 10/31/2009 5:41:50 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 10/31/2009 5:40:13 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
hey should have nothing to hide (as long as they regularly delete their history)
So win.

But savvy parents know that there should be a history and will get angry if you delete it all. You need to learn how to selectively delete it.


Or Download the new firefox and say you have private browsing on. Or indeed use private browsing.
If you say you have private browsing on you're in trouble. Using it is far more valid, as long as you turn it off when you visit legitimate sites and when you log out.

Or keep it on 100% on the justification it stops you being hacked



Who is going to do the disallowing?

Well, what authority stops hacking in general? What authority used the party van to get the Palin e-mail hacker?
An authority that doesn't like to interfere with how parents treat their children short of physical abuse.

Such as?
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10/31/2009 6:59:07 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/31/2009 6:37:12 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 10/31/2009 6:33:32 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 10/31/2009 5:41:50 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 10/31/2009 5:40:13 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
hey should have nothing to hide (as long as they regularly delete their history)
So win.

But savvy parents know that there should be a history and will get angry if you delete it all. You need to learn how to selectively delete it.


Or Download the new firefox and say you have private browsing on. Or indeed use private browsing.
If you say you have private browsing on you're in trouble. Using it is far more valid, as long as you turn it off when you visit legitimate sites and when you log out.

Or keep it on 100% on the justification it stops you being hacked
That's ****ing stupid unless the person you're telling that to is ****ing stupid.




Who is going to do the disallowing?

Well, what authority stops hacking in general? What authority used the party van to get the Palin e-mail hacker?
An authority that doesn't like to interfere with how parents treat their children short of physical abuse.

Such as?
Your best friend, socialist.
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10/31/2009 7:07:42 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/31/2009 6:59:07 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 10/31/2009 6:37:12 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 10/31/2009 6:33:32 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 10/31/2009 5:41:50 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 10/31/2009 5:40:13 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
hey should have nothing to hide (as long as they regularly delete their history)
So win.

But savvy parents know that there should be a history and will get angry if you delete it all. You need to learn how to selectively delete it.


Or Download the new firefox and say you have private browsing on. Or indeed use private browsing.
If you say you have private browsing on you're in trouble. Using it is far more valid, as long as you turn it off when you visit legitimate sites and when you log out.

Or keep it on 100% on the justification it stops you being hacked
That's ****ing stupid unless the person you're telling that to is ****ing stupid.

Parents tend to be F***ing stupid on the tech. front.





Who is going to do the disallowing?

Well, what authority stops hacking in general? What authority used the party van to get the Palin e-mail hacker?
An authority that doesn't like to interfere with how parents treat their children short of physical abuse.

Such as?
Your best friend, socialist.

It's Liberal nao ;)
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Ragnar_Rahl
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10/31/2009 7:09:16 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
I don't care what you call it, you still let your best friend the state control the economy.
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10/31/2009 7:11:46 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/31/2009 7:09:16 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
I don't care what you call it, you still let your best friend the state control the economy.

Nah, I don't believe in that anymore. Providing essential services, yes, regulating it to stop fraud, yes.
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10/31/2009 7:19:51 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/31/2009 5:17:26 PM, Emorose wrote:
Hack into their children's accounts on every website, read through all the emails, and IM's, debates, forum posts etc, and even pretend to be their children?
If so, why? (if not, why?)

You can agree with some of those and disagree with other's I just wanna know what you think. Plus my dad hacked this so I think maybe he'll read it too, and that would be kinda funny lol ^_^

Also Happy Holloween! May the Candy be with you!

No, not at all. That being said, any kid stupid enough not to take precautions so their parents won't find anything, deserves to get caught.
I'll get by with a little help from my friends.

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Ragnar_Rahl
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10/31/2009 7:23:09 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/31/2009 7:11:46 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 10/31/2009 7:09:16 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
I don't care what you call it, you still let your best friend the state control the economy.

Nah, I don't believe in that anymore. Providing essential services, yes, regulating it to stop fraud, yes.

In other words, no, you don't believe in that, you just believe in that. Control is control, even if to a different degree.
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11/1/2009 9:48:26 AM
Posted: 7 years ago

Parents tend to be F***ing stupid on the tech. front.


Not my parents unfortunately (they still know more about tech than I do sadly T_T)
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11/1/2009 9:51:12 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/31/2009 7:19:51 PM, ournamestoolong wrote:
At 10/31/2009 5:17:26 PM, Emorose wrote:
Hack into their children's accounts on every website, read through all the emails, and IM's, debates, forum posts etc, and even pretend to be their children?
If so, why? (if not, why?)

You can agree with some of those and disagree with other's I just wanna know what you think. Plus my dad hacked this so I think maybe he'll read it too, and that would be kinda funny lol ^_^

Also Happy Holloween! May the Candy be with you!

No, not at all. That being said, any kid stupid enough not to take precautions so their parents won't find anything, deserves to get caught.

I don't know what precautions I can take. They found that I
A) got on
B) every website, even with the deleted history
C) found exactly what and when I deleted the history
D) blocked all websites except youtube (this is a borrowed school computer so they can't install stuff on it)

So I really don't know what to do.

Plus when at dad's house he installed a keystroke thingy.
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11/1/2009 10:09:06 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
If I were you, I would try to reason with your parents. Talk rationally. Don't whine, but have a serious discussion. Outline the reasons you don't want their nosiness, and be smart about it. Don't have an argument. Have a decent, rational discussion.

Or, you could just find ways to bypass the security features. Oh, I miss s0m31john.
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11/1/2009 10:15:01 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 11/1/2009 10:09:06 AM, PoeJoe wrote:
If I were you, I would try to reason with your parents. Talk rationally. Don't whine, but have a serious discussion. Outline the reasons you don't want their nosiness, and be smart about it. Don't have an argument. Have a decent, rational discussion.

Or, you could just find ways to bypass the security features.

I wish I could. They never listen to me. I ask them to listen and their exact words are "No we will NOT listen to you."

Also, I don't know how to bypass any security at all, lol can you help with that at all?

Oh, I miss s0m31john.

Me too lol. I missed this whole site really.
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11/1/2009 10:24:29 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 11/1/2009 10:15:01 AM, Emorose wrote:
At 11/1/2009 10:09:06 AM, PoeJoe wrote:
If I were you, I would try to reason with your parents. Talk rationally. Don't whine, but have a serious discussion. Outline the reasons you don't want their nosiness, and be smart about it. Don't have an argument. Have a decent, rational discussion.

Or, you could just find ways to bypass the security features.

I wish I could. They never listen to me. I ask them to listen and their exact words are "No we will NOT listen to you."

Tough break. Still worth a shot, I think. To be über sincere and nice about it.

Also, I don't know how to bypass any security at all, lol can you help with that at all?

Well, what security features are your parents using? The default Vista parental controls, presume?
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11/1/2009 10:28:02 AM
Posted: 7 years ago

Tough break. Still worth a shot, I think. To be über sincere and nice about it.


I'll try, but idk, they never listen and it's kinda depressing me now, but well only aout 3 more years before I can get out if they keep up with all this crap.

Well, what security features are your parents using? The default Vista parental controls, presume?

I have no clue. Um the netgear thingy I think lol. (now I know I'm showing how little I actually know. lol)
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11/1/2009 10:41:22 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 11/1/2009 10:28:02 AM, Emorose wrote:

Tough break. Still worth a shot, I think. To be über sincere and nice about it.


I'll try, but idk, they never listen and it's kinda depressing me now, but well only aout 3 more years before I can get out if they keep up with all this crap.

Teenage angst ftw.

Well, what security features are your parents using? The default Vista parental controls, presume?

I have no clue. Um the netgear thingy I think lol. (now I know I'm showing how little I actually know. lol)

I haven't heard too much about Netgear, but, fortunately, the Internet has: http://www.google.com...
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11/1/2009 11:23:21 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 11/1/2009 9:51:12 AM, Emorose wrote:
At 10/31/2009 7:19:51 PM, ournamestoolong wrote:
At 10/31/2009 5:17:26 PM, Emorose wrote:
Hack into their children's accounts on every website, read through all the emails, and IM's, debates, forum posts etc, and even pretend to be their children?
If so, why? (if not, why?)

You can agree with some of those and disagree with other's I just wanna know what you think. Plus my dad hacked this so I think maybe he'll read it too, and that would be kinda funny lol ^_^

Also Happy Holloween! May the Candy be with you!

No, not at all. That being said, any kid stupid enough not to take precautions so their parents won't find anything, deserves to get caught.

I don't know what precautions I can take. They found that I
A) got on
B) every website, even with the deleted history
C) found exactly what and when I deleted the history
D) blocked all websites except youtube (this is a borrowed school computer so they can't install stuff on it)
Did you delete cache? They can read that too.
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11/1/2009 11:53:05 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
I assume with the new Mozilla feature of "private browsing," parents can't so readily find out what their teens have been doing on, so long as those teens use private browsing. Or is there a way to get around and see history/cookies/cache anyways?
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11/1/2009 11:54:15 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 11/1/2009 11:53:05 AM, Volkov wrote:
I assume with the new Mozilla feature of "private browsing," parents can't so readily find out what their teens have been doing on, so long as those teens use private browsing. Or is there a way to get around and see history/cookies/cache anyways?

Yes, Mozilla firefox private browsing
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11/1/2009 12:19:48 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 11/1/2009 11:23:21 AM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 11/1/2009 9:51:12 AM, Emorose wrote:
At 10/31/2009 7:19:51 PM, ournamestoolong wrote:
At 10/31/2009 5:17:26 PM, Emorose wrote:
Hack into their children's accounts on every website, read through all the emails, and IM's, debates, forum posts etc, and even pretend to be their children?
If so, why? (if not, why?)

You can agree with some of those and disagree with other's I just wanna know what you think. Plus my dad hacked this so I think maybe he'll read it too, and that would be kinda funny lol ^_^

Also Happy Holloween! May the Candy be with you!

No, not at all. That being said, any kid stupid enough not to take precautions so their parents won't find anything, deserves to get caught.

I don't know what precautions I can take. They found that I
A) got on
B) every website, even with the deleted history
C) found exactly what and when I deleted the history
D) blocked all websites except youtube (this is a borrowed school computer so they can't install stuff on it)
Did you delete cache? They can read that too.

umm whats cache? (yeah once again I'm technologically impaired I know)
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11/1/2009 12:20:37 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 11/1/2009 11:53:05 AM, Volkov wrote:
I assume with the new Mozilla feature of "private browsing," parents can't so readily find out what their teens have been doing on, so long as those teens use private browsing. Or is there a way to get around and see history/cookies/cache anyways?

School comp, can't install firefox, using IE.