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FrackJack
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3/12/2013 1:47:21 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I been bugged by this question lately.

If a smoke alarm catches on fire, does it go off?
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3/12/2013 1:51:00 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
That's actually a really good question.

I would think that it would for a short while until it get's completely burnt.
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3/12/2013 1:54:05 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/12/2013 1:51:00 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
That's actually a really good question.

I would think that it would for a short while until it get's completely burnt.
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3/12/2013 1:58:52 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/12/2013 1:54:05 PM, TUF wrote:
At 3/12/2013 1:51:00 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
That's actually a really good question.

I would think that it would for a short while until it get's completely burnt.

lol. I have a speaking class and I brought this up and my teacher and a classmate thinks it would go off.

What kind of wires do they have?
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3/12/2013 4:02:45 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I would think it would short out like bossyburrito said but I wouldn't try to put it out
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3/12/2013 4:43:45 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/12/2013 1:47:21 PM, FrackJack wrote:
I been bugged by this question lately.


If a smoke alarm catches on fire, does it go off?

It is impossible for a smoke alarm to catch fire. A 9 volt battery "in the context it is being used" does not have enough amps to create the heat necessary to make it catch fire. And no, it would not go off even if there was a malfunction because the malfunction would render the sensor that sets it off useless or inoperable.
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3/12/2013 5:13:22 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Possibly. I would try this and report back but I've always tried to avoid burning batteries. That just wouldn't end well.
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3/12/2013 8:25:30 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/12/2013 5:13:22 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
Possibly. I would try this and report back but I've always tried to avoid burning batteries. That just wouldn't end well.

Solution: get someone else to do it.
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3/12/2013 8:33:07 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/12/2013 5:13:22 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
Possibly. I would try this and report back but I've always tried to avoid burning batteries. That just wouldn't end well.

I want to make clear the words "Context it is being used in" in my last post. Make no mistake, you "can" start a fire with a 9 volt battery.
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And with the stroke of a pen people 18 to 21 who own a gun became criminals and public enemy #1 having committed no crime and having said nothing. Just like the Jews in Germany during WW2. Must be a weird feeling.

When I hear people crying and whining about their first world problems I think about the universe with everything in it and people in wheelchairs and all of their problems go away.
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3/12/2013 8:36:55 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
It depends.

For instance, if part of the detecter that does the detecting is the first part to catch fire. Then in an optical detector, probably not. But in a ionization detector, I would think so. This being because the parts that detect are either flame resistant or very susceptible to flames, respectively. If the outer cassing is the first bit to catch fire, then I would assume it would go off, but not for very long.
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3/12/2013 8:42:32 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Im sure theres a mythbusters episode that addresses this
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3/12/2013 8:43:20 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/12/2013 8:29:09 PM, bossyburrito wrote:


This is bogus. You can clearly tell this smoke detector was packed with some sort of chemical as it burned for several seconds in a extreme manner. There is nothing inside of a smoke detector that would cause such a flare up. All there is, is a tiny circuit board. At best you could hook up a 110 volt to 220 and melt the circuit board. But this would require purposeful thinking. The same is true for a nine volt to either 110 or 220. It is not the fault of the smoke detector. It is the person purposely trying to make it malfunction. A properly connected smoke detector can not catch fire. And it is unlikely a improperly connected one will either. It will smoke maybe, but that's about it. It will short and trip the breaker.
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And with the stroke of a pen people 18 to 21 who own a gun became criminals and public enemy #1 having committed no crime and having said nothing. Just like the Jews in Germany during WW2. Must be a weird feeling.

When I hear people crying and whining about their first world problems I think about the universe with everything in it and people in wheelchairs and all of their problems go away.
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3/12/2013 8:45:07 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/12/2013 8:43:20 PM, sadolite wrote:
At 3/12/2013 8:29:09 PM, bossyburrito wrote:


This is bogus. You can clearly tell this smoke detector was packed with some sort of chemical as it burned for several seconds in a extreme manner. There is nothing inside of a smoke detector that would cause such a flare up. All there is, is a tiny circuit board. At best you could hook up a 110 volt to 220 and melt the circuit board. But this would require purposeful thinking. The same is true for a nine volt to either 110 or 220. It is not the fault of the smoke detector. It is the person purposely trying to make it malfunction. A properly connected smoke detector can not catch fire. And it is unlikely a improperly connected one will either. It will smoke maybe, but that's about it. It will short and trip the breaker.

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3/12/2013 8:48:51 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/12/2013 8:25:30 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 3/12/2013 5:13:22 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
Possibly. I would try this and report back but I've always tried to avoid burning batteries. That just wouldn't end well.

Solution: get someone else to do it.

Ober, will you set a smoke alarm on fire for me? :)
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3/12/2013 8:53:57 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/12/2013 8:33:07 PM, sadolite wrote:
At 3/12/2013 5:13:22 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
Possibly. I would try this and report back but I've always tried to avoid burning batteries. That just wouldn't end well.

I want to make clear the words "Context it is being used in" in my last post. Make no mistake, you "can" start a fire with a 9 volt battery.

Yep. But I put that in the same class as "pouring gasoline on stuff, waiting a minute, then tossing a match at it". A lot of fun, but maybe not the best idea. But then again, I probably think that because I do something stupid every time I set fire to something. Last time I accidentally burned shingles made of asbestos... -_-
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3/12/2013 9:02:44 PM
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At 3/12/2013 8:53:57 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
At 3/12/2013 8:33:07 PM, sadolite wrote:
At 3/12/2013 5:13:22 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
Possibly. I would try this and report back but I've always tried to avoid burning batteries. That just wouldn't end well.

I want to make clear the words "Context it is being used in" in my last post. Make no mistake, you "can" start a fire with a 9 volt battery.

Yep. But I put that in the same class as "pouring gasoline on stuff, waiting a minute, then tossing a match at it". A lot of fun, but maybe not the best idea. But then again, I probably think that because I do something stupid every time I set fire to something. Last time I accidentally burned shingles made of asbestos... -_-

I will flick a lit cigarette in a bucket gas outside any time. Gas doesn't burn, the fumes do. Now a thimble full of gas in a small enclosed area, whole different story.
Beware of the people who are in your circle but are not in your corner.

And with the stroke of a pen people 18 to 21 who own a gun became criminals and public enemy #1 having committed no crime and having said nothing. Just like the Jews in Germany during WW2. Must be a weird feeling.

When I hear people crying and whining about their first world problems I think about the universe with everything in it and people in wheelchairs and all of their problems go away.
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3/13/2013 12:03:58 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/12/2013 9:02:44 PM, sadolite wrote:
At 3/12/2013 8:53:57 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
At 3/12/2013 8:33:07 PM, sadolite wrote:
At 3/12/2013 5:13:22 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
Possibly. I would try this and report back but I've always tried to avoid burning batteries. That just wouldn't end well.

I want to make clear the words "Context it is being used in" in my last post. Make no mistake, you "can" start a fire with a 9 volt battery.

Yep. But I put that in the same class as "pouring gasoline on stuff, waiting a minute, then tossing a match at it". A lot of fun, but maybe not the best idea. But then again, I probably think that because I do something stupid every time I set fire to something. Last time I accidentally burned shingles made of asbestos... -_-

I will flick a lit cigarette in a bucket gas outside any time. Gas doesn't burn, the fumes do. Now a thimble full of gas in a small enclosed area, whole different story.

Exactly. Which is why i try not to get gas fumes everywhere and then start a fire. Did that once and damn near burned my hair off. Was a great fire, though :)
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3/13/2013 5:48:20 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/12/2013 8:53:57 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
At 3/12/2013 8:33:07 PM, sadolite wrote:
At 3/12/2013 5:13:22 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
Possibly. I would try this and report back but I've always tried to avoid burning batteries. That just wouldn't end well.

I want to make clear the words "Context it is being used in" in my last post. Make no mistake, you "can" start a fire with a 9 volt battery.

Yep. But I put that in the same class as "pouring gasoline on stuff, waiting a minute, then tossing a match at it". A lot of fun, but maybe not the best idea. But then again, I probably think that because I do something stupid every time I set fire to something. Last time I accidentally burned shingles made of asbestos... -_-

Are you exaggerating about the shingles?
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3/13/2013 3:42:35 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/13/2013 5:48:20 AM, muzebreak wrote:
At 3/12/2013 8:53:57 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
At 3/12/2013 8:33:07 PM, sadolite wrote:
At 3/12/2013 5:13:22 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
Possibly. I would try this and report back but I've always tried to avoid burning batteries. That just wouldn't end well.

I want to make clear the words "Context it is being used in" in my last post. Make no mistake, you "can" start a fire with a 9 volt battery.

Yep. But I put that in the same class as "pouring gasoline on stuff, waiting a minute, then tossing a match at it". A lot of fun, but maybe not the best idea. But then again, I probably think that because I do something stupid every time I set fire to something. Last time I accidentally burned shingles made of asbestos... -_-

Are you exaggerating about the shingles?

Nope. True story. Stupid move on my part, but I didn't realize what they were until they were in the fire. :/
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3/14/2013 7:40:37 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I say it would go off until the wires are fried.
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3/14/2013 8:02:15 PM
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At 3/14/2013 7:40:37 AM, lannan13 wrote:
I say it would go off until the wires are fried.

It would not go off. The question being asked is if the smoke detector "itself" caught fire. It is impossible for a smoke detector to catch fire of it's own validity. Setting fire to a smoke dectector and a smoke detector catching fire are two different things.
Beware of the people who are in your circle but are not in your corner.

And with the stroke of a pen people 18 to 21 who own a gun became criminals and public enemy #1 having committed no crime and having said nothing. Just like the Jews in Germany during WW2. Must be a weird feeling.

When I hear people crying and whining about their first world problems I think about the universe with everything in it and people in wheelchairs and all of their problems go away.