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Why are pirates glorified?

dylancatlow
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4/1/2013 9:28:11 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Pirates were (and still are) murderous thugs who robbed and killed innocent maritime travelers and merchants. I don't understand why pirates, generally, are not thought of as what they truly are.
muzebreak
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4/1/2013 9:28:48 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Treasure Island.
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4/1/2013 9:29:41 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
It makes for good entertainment. Nothing wrong with that.
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4/1/2013 9:33:26 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/1/2013 9:29:41 AM, bossyburrito wrote:
It makes for good entertainment. Nothing wrong with that.

It's an insult to the victims of the robberies and murders committed by the glorified maritime thugs.
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4/1/2013 10:28:24 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/1/2013 9:33:26 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/1/2013 9:29:41 AM, bossyburrito wrote:
It makes for good entertainment. Nothing wrong with that.

It's an insult to the victims of the robberies and murders committed by the glorified maritime thugs.

Are those actions represented through the medium of entertainment?
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4/1/2013 10:39:24 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/1/2013 9:35:18 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/1/2013 9:28:48 AM, muzebreak wrote:
Treasure Island.

That's probably a large factor.

I was being a little simplistic to be fair. Over years pirates have been mystified. Children would hear how pirates could leave home and become rich on their own coin, with their own effort. It became a tale to tell to give children hope. It became a myth. Pirates and pirates are not the same. One are a group of swashbucklers who bury their treasure and leave a map for someone to find. The other are a group of murderers who spend their money on whores and drugs, and regularly partake in the most despicable of acts. There is a medium of the two, and some highs and lows, but they are separate entities in the end. One of fantasy, one of reality.
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4/1/2013 10:47:13 AM
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The same reason we glorify Robin Hood, knights, medieval times, and thieves. Because we like romanticizing things.
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4/1/2013 10:52:37 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/1/2013 10:47:13 AM, OberHerr wrote:
The same reason we glorify Robin Hood, knights, medieval times, and thieves. Because we like romanticizing things.

Robin Hood is a little different. He was an actually story, made for the purpose of being a hero.
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4/1/2013 10:56:59 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Because, everyone loves the idea of sailing around as your own boss, collecting treasure and commanding your own crew of loyal cronies.

It's the idea of freedom, riches and mythos that make pirates so appealing to the human psyche.
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4/1/2013 11:37:25 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Pirates were (and still are) murderous thugs who robbed and killed innocent maritime travelers and merchants.

That's true today, perhaps, but once upon a time even in civilized nations merchant vessels were often staffed heavily by shanghaiing, hardly an innocent operation. Want to be a young man of seafaring habits and not be hauled off as some captain's slave for years on end? Being a pirate, while hardly pleasant, was often the only option.

Also, adventure, whee. Gangsters and highwaymen have always been romanticized too and (aside from prohibition) never really had such excuses. Romanticism doesn't contain a code of ethics.
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4/1/2013 11:42:53 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/1/2013 10:52:37 AM, muzebreak wrote:
At 4/1/2013 10:47:13 AM, OberHerr wrote:
The same reason we glorify Robin Hood, knights, medieval times, and thieves. Because we like romanticizing things.

Robin Hood is a little different. He was an actually story, made for the purpose of being a hero.

It is unknown whether the Robin Hood tales refer to a historical bandit.

Also, earlier incarnations were a bit rougher-- he assaulted Little John for nothing more than defeating him in an archery contest in one ballad.
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4/1/2013 11:44:59 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/1/2013 11:42:53 AM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 4/1/2013 10:52:37 AM, muzebreak wrote:
At 4/1/2013 10:47:13 AM, OberHerr wrote:
The same reason we glorify Robin Hood, knights, medieval times, and thieves. Because we like romanticizing things.

Robin Hood is a little different. He was an actually story, made for the purpose of being a hero.

It is unknown whether the Robin Hood tales refer to a historical bandit.

Also, earlier incarnations were a bit rougher-- he assaulted Little John for nothing more than defeating him in an archery contest in one ballad.

Robin Hood is glorified by Leftists who use him as an example of taxing the rich to give to the poor. In reality, he was a thief and a highwayman.