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dylancatlow
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4/24/2013 9:00:46 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Do you think the government should take action against those who illegally download music, movies, games etc? Does protecting intellectual property rights justify the steps necessary to do so?
Subutai
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4/24/2013 9:54:45 AM
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4/24/2013 10:27:01 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/24/2013 9:00:46 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
Do you think the government should take action against those who illegally...

Yes.
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4/24/2013 10:31:25 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/24/2013 9:00:46 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
Do you think the government should take action against those who illegally download music, movies, games etc? Does protecting intellectual property rights justify the steps necessary to do so?

I'll answer after I get done watching a movie I pirated.
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4/24/2013 12:36:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/24/2013 10:07:07 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/24/2013 9:54:45 AM, Subutai wrote:
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4/24/2013 1:19:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/24/2013 9:00:46 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
Do you think the government should take action against those who illegally download music, movies, games etc? Does protecting intellectual property rights justify the steps necessary to do so?

Don't download. Just stream.
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4/24/2013 1:27:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/24/2013 9:00:46 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
Do you think the government should take action against those who illegally download music, movies, games etc? Does protecting intellectual property rights justify the steps necessary to do so?

Whatever is on youtube should be fair game for video/mp3 download. Other than that it can be illegal.
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4/24/2013 5:14:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/24/2013 12:36:43 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 4/24/2013 10:07:07 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/24/2013 9:54:45 AM, Subutai wrote:
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I concur, it's so vast that attempting to express it in words would just be a futile endeavor.
Subutai
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4/24/2013 7:21:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/24/2013 5:14:44 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/24/2013 12:36:43 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 4/24/2013 10:07:07 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/24/2013 9:54:45 AM, Subutai wrote:
Politics forum that way ------------->

My cares :

Your intelligence :

I concur, it's so vast that attempting to express it in words would just be a futile endeavor.

Your hypocrisy :
Capitalism will never fall on its own. It will have to be pushed. The accumulation of capital will never cease. It will have to be stopped. The capitalist class will never willingly surrender their power. It will have to be dispossessed. - David Harvey
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4/24/2013 10:51:51 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/24/2013 10:27:01 AM, drafterman wrote:
At 4/24/2013 9:00:46 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
Do you think the government should take action against those who illegally...

Yes.

QFT. The question is whetehr it should BE illegal.

Also, streaming IS downloading. Just downloading to a temporary folder...
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dylancatlow
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4/24/2013 10:58:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/24/2013 7:21:39 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 4/24/2013 5:14:44 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/24/2013 12:36:43 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 4/24/2013 10:07:07 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/24/2013 9:54:45 AM, Subutai wrote:
Politics forum that way ------------->

My cares :

Your intelligence :

I concur, it's so vast that attempting to express it in words would just be a futile endeavor.

Your hypocrisy :

There's nothing there, silly.
Wallstreetatheist
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4/24/2013 11:22:26 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
This all goes back to intellectual property.

Intellectual property is not real property. It is not scarce, and your use of media does not take away its use from the creator. Your use and sharing of the media cuts off a future revenue stream for the creator of the media or the inventor of the process; the only way to justify laws that punish people for such "crimes" (lol) is if the inventor or creator is entitled to money in your wallet.
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4/25/2013 6:48:42 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
a big blow was done when governments took down limewire. Now we have to resort to using bit torrent.
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Subutai
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4/25/2013 10:25:25 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/24/2013 10:58:37 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/24/2013 7:21:39 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 4/24/2013 5:14:44 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/24/2013 12:36:43 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 4/24/2013 10:07:07 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/24/2013 9:54:45 AM, Subutai wrote:
Politics forum that way ------------->

My cares :

Your intelligence :

I concur, it's so vast that attempting to express it in words would just be a futile endeavor.

Your hypocrisy :

There's nothing there, silly.

Yet again, your hypocrisy :
Capitalism will never fall on its own. It will have to be pushed. The accumulation of capital will never cease. It will have to be stopped. The capitalist class will never willingly surrender their power. It will have to be dispossessed. - David Harvey
dylancatlow
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4/25/2013 5:56:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/25/2013 10:25:25 AM, Subutai wrote:
At 4/24/2013 10:58:37 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/24/2013 7:21:39 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 4/24/2013 5:14:44 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/24/2013 12:36:43 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 4/24/2013 10:07:07 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/24/2013 9:54:45 AM, Subutai wrote:
Politics forum that way ------------->

My cares :

Your intelligence :

I concur, it's so vast that attempting to express it in words would just be a futile endeavor.

Your hypocrisy :

There's nothing there, silly.

Yet again, your hypocrisy :

Who me?
Subutai
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4/25/2013 7:30:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/25/2013 5:56:04 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/25/2013 10:25:25 AM, Subutai wrote:
At 4/24/2013 10:58:37 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/24/2013 7:21:39 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 4/24/2013 5:14:44 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/24/2013 12:36:43 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 4/24/2013 10:07:07 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/24/2013 9:54:45 AM, Subutai wrote:
Politics forum that way ------------->

My cares :

Your intelligence :

I concur, it's so vast that attempting to express it in words would just be a futile endeavor.

Your hypocrisy :

There's nothing there, silly.

Yet again, your hypocrisy :

Who me?

Yeah, you.
Capitalism will never fall on its own. It will have to be pushed. The accumulation of capital will never cease. It will have to be stopped. The capitalist class will never willingly surrender their power. It will have to be dispossessed. - David Harvey
dylancatlow
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4/25/2013 7:32:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/25/2013 7:30:45 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 4/25/2013 5:56:04 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/25/2013 10:25:25 AM, Subutai wrote:
At 4/24/2013 10:58:37 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/24/2013 7:21:39 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 4/24/2013 5:14:44 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/24/2013 12:36:43 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 4/24/2013 10:07:07 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/24/2013 9:54:45 AM, Subutai wrote:
Politics forum that way ------------->

My cares :

Your intelligence :

I concur, it's so vast that attempting to express it in words would just be a futile endeavor.

Your hypocrisy :

There's nothing there, silly.

Yet again, your hypocrisy :

Who me?

Yeah, you.

Couldn't be.
000ike
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4/25/2013 7:34:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/24/2013 12:36:43 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 4/24/2013 10:07:07 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/24/2013 9:54:45 AM, Subutai wrote:
Politics forum that way ------------->

My cares :

Your intelligence :

That's hilarious, but not very nice
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dylancatlow
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4/25/2013 7:39:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/25/2013 7:34:35 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 4/24/2013 12:36:43 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 4/24/2013 10:07:07 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/24/2013 9:54:45 AM, Subutai wrote:
Politics forum that way ------------->

My cares :

Your intelligence :

That's hilarious, but not very nice

Neither is claiming that is hilarious.