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AK vs. M16

Bullish
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8/18/2013 8:51:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
The "AK" refers to the AK-47 and AKM produced by the Soviet Union since 1949, http://en.m.wikipedia.org... , http://en.m.wikipedia.org...
The "M16" refers to the U.S. made rifle issued since 1959, http://en.m.wikipedia.org...

AK/AKM specs:
Calibre: 7.62x39mm
Muzzle Velocity: 715m/s
Weight (no mag): 3.5/2.9 kg
Action: Gas-op, rotating bolt.
Notes: really cheap, very reliable, nasty kick.

M16 Specs:
Calibre: 5.65x45mm
Muzzle Velocoty: 950m/s
Weight: 3.3 kg
Action: Gas-op, rotating bolt.
Notes: modular, accurate, trip-burst.

Which is better?

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8/18/2013 9:41:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/18/2013 8:51:01 PM, Bullish wrote:

Which is better?

You may find this valuable:

http://en.wikipedia.org...

There are a host of variables that can be given different weight depending on the assessor.
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8/18/2013 9:44:17 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
In general, I believe the M16 wins from all technical standpoints of consideration.

However, when one gun costs hundreds of dollars, and the other might be purchased for a "chicken or a sack of grain", cost can be a compelling factor.
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Bullish
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8/19/2013 6:50:44 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/18/2013 9:44:17 PM, bladerunner060 wrote:
In general, I believe the M16 wins from all technical standpoints of consideration.

However, when one gun costs hundreds of dollars, and the other might be purchased for a "chicken or a sack of grain", cost can be a compelling factor.

But it's the ammo that costs the most.
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8/19/2013 6:52:54 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/19/2013 6:50:44 PM, Bullish wrote:
At 8/18/2013 9:44:17 PM, bladerunner060 wrote:
In general, I believe the M16 wins from all technical standpoints of consideration.

However, when one gun costs hundreds of dollars, and the other might be purchased for a "chicken or a sack of grain", cost can be a compelling factor.

But it's the ammo that costs the most.

The ammo of the more ubiquitous gun is likely cheaper, though I don't have anything on hand to back that up.
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Bullish
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8/19/2013 9:52:54 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/19/2013 6:52:54 PM, bladerunner060 wrote:
At 8/19/2013 6:50:44 PM, Bullish wrote:
At 8/18/2013 9:44:17 PM, bladerunner060 wrote:
In general, I believe the M16 wins from all technical standpoints of consideration.

However, when one gun costs hundreds of dollars, and the other might be purchased for a "chicken or a sack of grain", cost can be a compelling factor.

But it's the ammo that costs the most.

The ammo of the more ubiquitous gun is likely cheaper, though I don't have anything on hand to back that up.

Just looked this up:

AK-47, 7.62x39mm is $8.00 for 20,
http://www.luckygunner.com...

AR-15, 5.56x45mm is $10.00 for 20,
http://www.luckygunner.com...

I would assume that most of the difference is in the quality of the gunpowder, one has a bigger barrel to fill and therefore needs a less controlled explosion. But the difference is not huge.
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8/19/2013 9:56:57 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/19/2013 9:52:54 PM, Bullish wrote:
At 8/19/2013 6:52:54 PM, bladerunner060 wrote:
At 8/19/2013 6:50:44 PM, Bullish wrote:
At 8/18/2013 9:44:17 PM, bladerunner060 wrote:
In general, I believe the M16 wins from all technical standpoints of consideration.

However, when one gun costs hundreds of dollars, and the other might be purchased for a "chicken or a sack of grain", cost can be a compelling factor.

But it's the ammo that costs the most.

The ammo of the more ubiquitous gun is likely cheaper, though I don't have anything on hand to back that up.

Just looked this up:

AK-47, 7.62x39mm is $8.00 for 20,
http://www.luckygunner.com...

AR-15, 5.56x45mm is $10.00 for 20,
http://www.luckygunner.com...

I would assume that most of the difference is in the quality of the gunpowder, one has a bigger barrel to fill and therefore needs a less controlled explosion. But the difference is not huge.

That's in the US, too, don't forget. There's like 10 times as many AKs in circulation than M16s, so in war-torn areas, it's entirely plausible that AK ammo is considerably cheap.
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8/20/2013 12:23:11 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
From what I've heard M16s need tons of care. As opposed to AKs. I've heard stories of old Aks being dug up and working just fine.
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