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dragon_slayer489
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8/27/2013 12:03:10 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
see i feel as i read fan faction there is nothing wrong with it
i feel that people blow the subject out of proportion please add on please and
feel free to state your opinion
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8/27/2013 12:05:29 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/27/2013 12:03:10 AM, dragon_slayer489 wrote:
see i feel as i read fan faction there is nothing wrong with it
i feel that people blow the subject out of proportion please add on please and
feel free to state your opinion

Orson Scott Card thinks it's wrong when anybody but him does it. But he's also insane.

In general, fan fiction (being created by fans, as opposed to people who are considered good enough to get paid to create) is of lower quality, and often panders to the fans in ways that would be "crappy" if it were canon. And, of course, there's slash fiction.

But I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with it.
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8/27/2013 12:07:55 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
see i know for a fact people think it a form of profanity because they don't understand it
i read and am trying to wright some of my own and i feel its fun and a way to express my self in many ways. what do u think people
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8/28/2013 9:16:50 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
The majority of fan fiction is a load of poorly spelt sex filled crap that could have been put together by a toddler after an accidental visit to pornhub, that is why very few people trust fan fiction.
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8/28/2013 9:23:30 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/28/2013 9:16:50 AM, Mysterious_Stranger wrote:
The majority of fan fiction is a load of poorly spelt sex filled crap that could have been put together by a toddler after an accidental visit to pornhub, that is why very few people trust fan fiction.

I believe Fifty Shades was actually a fanfiction of Twilight in its early days.
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8/28/2013 4:26:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/27/2013 12:03:10 AM, dragon_slayer489 wrote:
see i feel as i read fan faction there is nothing wrong with it
i feel that people blow the subject out of proportion please add on please and
feel free to state your opinion

because it utterly screws with the story and also is unprofessional. most really adamant fans want anything non canonical to be done by a professional.
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8/28/2013 4:29:50 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I dont think there is necessarily anything wrong with it. Some of the better things I have read were fanfiction. Most notably some of the video game fanfiction like Skyrim fanfiction found on Reddit.
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8/28/2013 4:30:31 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
/r talesfromtamriel
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8/28/2013 6:25:42 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/27/2013 12:05:29 AM, bladerunner060 wrote:
At 8/27/2013 12:03:10 AM, dragon_slayer489 wrote:
see i feel as i read fan faction there is nothing wrong with it
i feel that people blow the subject out of proportion please add on please and
feel free to state your opinion

Orson Scott Card thinks it's wrong when anybody but him does it. But he's also insane.

lol

In general, fan fiction (being created by fans, as opposed to people who are considered good enough to get paid to create) is of lower quality, and often panders to the fans in ways that would be "crappy" if it were canon. And, of course, there's slash fiction.

But I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with it.

I've read some good fan fiction. I can't remember it -which should tell you something in and of itself- but fan fiction is like cooking: food, and literature are always better when you're not the one who makes it.

That said, one of the reasons I actually got into writing fiction (not seriously, of course, but as a hobby of mine) is because of how sh!tty almost all of the gay lit. out there is. I started writing because I couldn't find anything I thought was worth reading... but writing a compelling story is harder than it sounds -fan fiction or otherwise.
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8/28/2013 7:13:38 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I don't think fanfiction is particularly wrong, per se. I've read some really, really good fanfic. However, it tends to show a distinct lack of particular originality in my opinion - not dramatic, but for sure a certain abstract lacking. Hard to put my finger on it.

Plus, it IS technically illegal. Authors just usually look the other way.
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8/28/2013 7:59:07 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/28/2013 7:13:38 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
I don't think fanfiction is particularly wrong, per se. I've read some really, really good fanfic. However, it tends to show a distinct lack of particular originality in my opinion - not dramatic, but for sure a certain abstract lacking. Hard to put my finger on it.

Plus, it IS technically illegal. Authors just usually look the other way.

cause its by in large used purely for entertainment and not for commercial use, thats why ;)
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8/28/2013 8:01:39 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/28/2013 7:59:07 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 8/28/2013 7:13:38 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
I don't think fanfiction is particularly wrong, per se. I've read some really, really good fanfic. However, it tends to show a distinct lack of particular originality in my opinion - not dramatic, but for sure a certain abstract lacking. Hard to put my finger on it.

Plus, it IS technically illegal. Authors just usually look the other way.

cause its by in large used purely for entertainment and not for commercial use, thats why ;)

By and large*

Of course, hence the fact that I said authors usually look away. I just thought it was an interesting fact that fanfic authors technically break teh law.
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8/28/2013 8:03:37 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/28/2013 8:01:39 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:

Of course, hence the fact that I said authors usually look away. I just thought it was an interesting fact that fanfic authors technically break teh law.

I think if it is solely used for entertainment purposes, that there isn't any law being broken, but i could be mistaken
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8/28/2013 8:06:50 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/28/2013 8:03:37 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 8/28/2013 8:01:39 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:

Of course, hence the fact that I said authors usually look away. I just thought it was an interesting fact that fanfic authors technically break teh law.

I think if it is solely used for entertainment purposes, that there isn't any law being broken, but i could be mistaken

You are.

Entertainment technically isn't even one of the criteria used in determining fair use. But even then, fair use only applies to short violations of copyright, and even then it has to fit a certain intended use: education, parody, commentary, criticism.
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8/28/2013 8:07:44 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/28/2013 8:06:50 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 8/28/2013 8:03:37 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 8/28/2013 8:01:39 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:

Of course, hence the fact that I said authors usually look away. I just thought it was an interesting fact that fanfic authors technically break teh law.

I think if it is solely used for entertainment purposes, that there isn't any law being broken, but i could be mistaken

You are.

Entertainment technically isn't even one of the criteria used in determining fair use. But even then, fair use only applies to short violations of copyright, and even then it has to fit a certain intended use: education, parody, commentary, criticism.

ah well thank you for clarifying senor neenja
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8/28/2013 8:09:52 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/28/2013 8:07:44 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 8/28/2013 8:06:50 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 8/28/2013 8:03:37 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 8/28/2013 8:01:39 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:

Of course, hence the fact that I said authors usually look away. I just thought it was an interesting fact that fanfic authors technically break teh law.

I think if it is solely used for entertainment purposes, that there isn't any law being broken, but i could be mistaken

You are.

Entertainment technically isn't even one of the criteria used in determining fair use. But even then, fair use only applies to short violations of copyright, and even then it has to fit a certain intended use: education, parody, commentary, criticism.

ah well thank you for clarifying senor neenja

Of course, fair use is very vague - that list of fair uses isn't exhaustive. But generally speaking, entertainment might not be enough. Also, fanfiction is a derivative work already, which I'm pretty sure is inherently a violation of copyright.
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8/28/2013 9:58:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
see i wright fan-faction a little not much and i feel its a way to relive some stress and show how im felling in a time period
but there is BAD fan-fiction that involves not to friendly things as such racism and to much profanity...
so i still fell that its always better to read peoples fan-fiction then wright it
in my opinion i like Pokemon fan-fiction i don't know why but its fun to read and wright
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8/28/2013 11:22:04 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
There's nothing wrong with fanfiction. The problem is when it is written in such a way that it hardly even looks like it was written in a human language, or when the author has no clue how to write a plot or a convincing character. Fanfiction, when done well, can be just as good (if not better) than the original media it was based off of. Sadly, this is hardly ever the case, which is why I dislike the vast majority of fanfics.
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8/28/2013 11:22:39 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/28/2013 9:16:50 AM, Mysterious_Stranger wrote:
The majority of fan fiction is a load of poorly spelt sex filled crap that could have been put together by a toddler after an accidental visit to pornhub, that is why very few people trust fan fiction.

Lmao, this.
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8/29/2013 1:50:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/27/2013 12:03:10 AM, dragon_slayer489 wrote:
see i feel as i read fan faction there is nothing wrong with it
i feel that people blow the subject out of proportion please add on please and
feel free to state your opinion

It is lazy. It is taking the work and creation of someone else and adding a small little tidbit to it and calling it a story. If you want to be a writer, create your own universe. Don't rip off someone else's.
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9/1/2013 10:26:39 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
yes i know its lazy so...
the hole point in fan-fiction is to express the way you reason writing feels about the story...
some stories are very similar to the real thing so what its there choosing
i also like to point out that all people have different options and likes i like stories that are romantic and have a good plot to them
as others may like a fast paced story with a ton of action.
so i see it as a option for the world to completely express there feelings in ways they could not say but can type.
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9/1/2013 10:38:25 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I just wish people would take the energy and time-consuming work needed to write huge fanfiction into writing something of their own.
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9/2/2013 4:47:19 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/27/2013 7:20:16 AM, MassiveDump wrote:
If there's one thing M. Night Shyamalan taught us with The Last Airbender, it's that fanfiction never works.
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9/2/2013 6:57:45 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/27/2013 7:20:16 AM, MassiveDump wrote:
If there's one thing M. Night Shyamalan taught us with The Last Airbender, it's that fanfiction never works.

*Nods head sadly*
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9/2/2013 7:14:13 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I used to think fanfiction was a very odd thing. I snickered whenever it was mentioned that my older sister, when she was younger, wrote Harry Potter fanfiction.

But now, reading some fanfiction, there really isn't anything WRONG with it.(Unless you're looking for those sex stories. That, is just creepy if that's what you're looking for.) Fanfiction can help you get a new perspective on characters and story elements, if the story is done right.

Fanfiction is a very mixed bag.

For example, I have read some Avatar: TLA fanfiction. (There's over 30,000 avatar fanfictions on fanfiction.net. So it is a very large mixed bag) None of the stories were up to the standards that the TV show had in terms of how good it was. But some of those fanfictions were interesting. Some were laughably redundant.(ex: Zuko, Katara, and Suki go to a bar. If you take that story seriously, you've got problems.) Others were straight-up s*it.

But there is nothing really... WRONG with fanfiction, except for those sex stories that are pretty much the stereotype of fanfiction (Note: If the story description includes the words 'lemon' or 'smut', run away from it as fast as possible.)
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9/2/2013 10:19:17 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
many also think that it is just a huge rip off of the real thing I feel if U or another person adds things to there liking then its probably not bad but its not like its wrong most people for ex for pokemon fan-fiction they usually have something like pokemon is owned by game-freak and Nintendo so its legibly allowed .
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