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000ike
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11/11/2013 4:12:10 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
What common grammatical mistakes make you cringe when you hear them? I'll start

1. when people say "ec cetera"
2. when people use et cetera when they have nothing else to say
3. when people say "run fast"
4. when people say "do good"

That fourth one is probably the worst.
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11/11/2013 4:31:11 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/11/2013 4:12:10 PM, 000ike wrote:
What common grammatical mistakes make you cringe when you hear them? I'll start

1. when people say "ec cetera"
2. when people use et cetera when they have nothing else to say
3. when people say "run fast"
4. when people say "do good"

That fourth one is probably the worst.

Is no. 2 a grammatical mistake?
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11/11/2013 5:31:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/11/2013 4:31:11 PM, NotReallySmart wrote:
At 11/11/2013 4:12:10 PM, 000ike wrote:
What common grammatical mistakes make you cringe when you hear them? I'll start

1. when people say "ec cetera"
2. when people use et cetera when they have nothing else to say
3. when people say "run fast"
4. when people say "do good"

That fourth one is probably the worst.

Is no. 2 a grammatical mistake?

not if you use "and such" instead.
" I like bread, beagles, bacon, and such" Even better, if you can put "I reckon" in there it is even more proper.

"I reckon I like break, beagles, bacon, and such."
Add in a piece of wheat when saying that and it is so right that it just can't be wrong.

I really am sad that I can't say, "My watches run fast", being that it is proper and such.
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11/11/2013 8:57:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Lay and Lie
This is the crown jewel of all grammatical errors. "Lay" is a transitive verb. It requires a direct subject and one or more objects. Its present tense is "lay" (e.g., I lay the pencil on the table) and its past tense is "laid" (e.g., Yesterday I laid the pencil on the table). "Lie" is an intransitive verb. It needs no object. Its present tense is "lie" (e.g., The Andes mountains lie between Chile and Argentina) and its past tense is "lay" (e.g., The man lay waiting for an ambulance). The most common mistake occurs when the writer uses the past tense of the transitive "lay" (e.g., I laid on the bed) when he/she actually means the intransitive past tense of "lie" (e.g., I lay on the bed).
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11/11/2013 8:58:49 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I think pet peeves are stupid though. Why choose to get frustrated about something? Why not just accept that it's a common mistake and use mental energy for something more worthwhile than frustration?

Anyway, these are good to learn: http://litreactor.com...
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11/11/2013 9:35:44 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/11/2013 8:58:49 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
I think pet peeves are stupid though. Why choose to get frustrated about something? Why not just accept that it's a common mistake and use mental energy for something more worthwhile than frustration?

Anyway, these are good to learn: http://litreactor.com...

pet peeve more so implies slight nuisance than source of frustration.
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11/12/2013 2:49:49 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
When people say things like, "The books were given to him and I". "I" is a subjective pronoun so it should never receive an action.
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11/12/2013 2:55:53 PM
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I'm surprised no one has called me out on misspelling grammar in a thread made to express disapproval of grammatical mistakes... I appreciate the kindness guys :)
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11/12/2013 3:27:24 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 2:49:49 PM, vbaculum wrote:
When people say things like, "The books were given to him and I". "I" is a subjective pronoun so it should never receive an action.

Related to that, on The Bachelor(ette) not a season will go by without someone saying "Chris and I's relationship..." or "Michael and I's relationship..."

*cringe*
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11/12/2013 3:28:02 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 2:55:53 PM, 000ike wrote:
I'm surprised no one has called me out on misspelling grammar in a thread made to express disapproval of grammatical mistakes... I appreciate the kindness guys :)

It happens to the best of us.
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11/12/2013 3:43:41 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Saying "would of" rather than "would have" is the most amateurish use of grammar possible. Especially when Brits say it, and you're confused as to whether or not they just pronounced "have" as "of."

"I could care less" is dumb, too.
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11/12/2013 3:55:13 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 3:27:24 PM, tulle wrote:
At 11/12/2013 2:49:49 PM, vbaculum wrote:
When people say things like, "The books were given to him and I". "I" is a subjective pronoun so it should never receive an action.

Related to that, on The Bachelor(ette) not a season will go by without someone saying "Chris and I's relationship..." or "Michael and I's relationship..."

Yuck.


*cringe*
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11/12/2013 4:04:12 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
When people don't get the difference between fewer and less.
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11/12/2013 4:04:33 PM
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"Your" v.s. "you're". Oh my Lord, I do cringe. I can understand that, on the Internet, you want to shorten the words, but for God's sake: use "yr" for "your" and "ur" for "you're"; if you must. But NEVER use "your" to mean "you're".

Also, the next person to misuse the word "literally" in speaking I will literally kill.

I would much prefer it if we all just used correct terms!

Venting.

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11/12/2013 4:48:10 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
The misuse of indirect number words.
Couple is two
Few is three
Many is four
A lot is five or more
Get it right people!
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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11/12/2013 5:20:44 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 4:48:10 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
The misuse of indirect number words.
Couple is two
Few is three
Many is four
A lot is five or more
Get it right people!

A couple does mean two; but few, many, and "a lot" all mean 3 or more.
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11/12/2013 5:37:19 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Oh, there are so many and most are exclusively American:
COULD care less is clearly nonsense.
When using a verb it really ought to be affect and not impact (if using a noun then effect OR impact - whatever grabs you)
And on the subject of "verbalising" nouns could we all please desist from using such clumsy expressions as I will transition (change will do fine!).
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11/12/2013 5:40:00 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 5:20:44 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 4:48:10 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
The misuse of indirect number words.
Couple is two
Few is three
Many is four
A lot is five or more
Get it right people!

A couple does mean two; but few, many, and "a lot" all mean 3 or more.

Nope i found those specific meanings myself.
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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11/12/2013 5:50:00 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 5:40:00 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 5:20:44 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 4:48:10 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
The misuse of indirect number words.
Couple is two
Few is three
Many is four
A lot is five or more
Get it right people!

A couple does mean two; but few, many, and "a lot" all mean 3 or more.

Nope i found those specific meanings myself.

Many - an large, indefinite number http://www.merriam-webster.com......

A few implies basically the same thing
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11/12/2013 5:52:57 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 5:50:00 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 5:40:00 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 5:20:44 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 4:48:10 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
The misuse of indirect number words.
Couple is two
Few is three
Many is four
A lot is five or more
Get it right people!

A couple does mean two; but few, many, and "a lot" all mean 3 or more.

Nope i found those specific meanings myself.

Many - an large, indefinite number http://www.merriam-webster.com......

A few implies basically the same thing

I've also seen that the meaning depend on the person but couple<few<several<many<a lot
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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11/12/2013 5:54:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 5:52:57 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 5:50:00 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 5:40:00 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 5:20:44 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 4:48:10 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
The misuse of indirect number words.
Couple is two
Few is three
Many is four
A lot is five or more
Get it right people!

A couple does mean two; but few, many, and "a lot" all mean 3 or more.

Nope i found those specific meanings myself.

Many - an large, indefinite number http://www.merriam-webster.com......

A few implies basically the same thing

I've also seen that the meaning depend on the person but couple<few<several<many<a lot

Sure, I agree with that order, but I don't think few, many, etc. have specific numerical meanings.
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11/12/2013 5:55:22 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 5:54:36 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 5:52:57 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 5:50:00 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 5:40:00 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 5:20:44 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 4:48:10 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
The misuse of indirect number words.
Couple is two
Few is three
Many is four
A lot is five or more
Get it right people!

A couple does mean two; but few, many, and "a lot" all mean 3 or more.

Nope i found those specific meanings myself.

Many - an large, indefinite number http://www.merriam-webster.com......

A few implies basically the same thing

I've also seen that the meaning depend on the person but couple<few<several<many<a lot

Sure, I agree with that order, but I don't think few, many, etc. have specific numerical meanings.

Agree to disagree?
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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11/12/2013 5:56:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 5:55:22 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 5:54:36 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 5:52:57 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 5:50:00 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 5:40:00 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 5:20:44 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/12/2013 4:48:10 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
The misuse of indirect number words.
Couple is two
Few is three
Many is four
A lot is five or more
Get it right people!

A couple does mean two; but few, many, and "a lot" all mean 3 or more.

Nope i found those specific meanings myself.

Many - an large, indefinite number http://www.merriam-webster.com......

A few implies basically the same thing

I've also seen that the meaning depend on the person but couple<few<several<many<a lot

Sure, I agree with that order, but I don't think few, many, etc. have specific numerical meanings.

Agree to disagree?

Very well. A cordial split...
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11/12/2013 5:56:54 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/11/2013 8:57:21 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
Lay and Lie
This is the crown jewel of all grammatical errors. "Lay" is a transitive verb. It requires a direct subject and one or more objects. Its present tense is "lay" (e.g., I lay the pencil on the table) and its past tense is "laid" (e.g., Yesterday I laid the pencil on the table). "Lie" is an intransitive verb. It needs no object. Its present tense is "lie" (e.g., The Andes mountains lie between Chile and Argentina) and its past tense is "lay" (e.g., The man lay waiting for an ambulance). The most common mistake occurs when the writer uses the past tense of the transitive "lay" (e.g., I laid on the bed) when he/she actually means the intransitive past tense of "lie" (e.g., I lay on the bed).

You would not want to lie a rhinocerous
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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11/12/2013 6:13:10 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/12/2013 4:04:33 PM, MysticEgg wrote:
"Your" v.s. "you're". Oh my Lord, I do cringe. I can understand that, on the Internet, you want to shorten the words, but for God's sake: use "yr" for "your" and "ur" for "you're"; if you must. But NEVER use "your" to mean "you're".

Also, the next person to misuse the word "literally" in speaking I will literally kill.

I will literally immolate those people.

I would much prefer it if we all just used correct terms!

Venting.

J
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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11/12/2013 6:55:43 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
oh, and I'd like to add "irregardless" to that list
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11/12/2013 8:29:41 PM
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At 11/12/2013 6:55:43 PM, 000ike wrote:
oh, and I'd like to add "irregardless" to that list
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11/13/2013 8:42:48 AM
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i hate people who screw up they're their and there
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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11/13/2013 11:29:19 PM
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At 11/13/2013 8:42:48 AM, cybertron1998 wrote:
i hate people who screw up they're their and there

The Fool: Really, you hate them, that's a pretty strong word, you must not like me very much. But I'm working on it, dammit, at least I'm working on it.
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