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4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life. This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?
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4/3/2014 7:42:22 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

Haha, it does make the debate more exciting and tense, and not just for the people watching. I love being able to talk bluntly and directly; it honestly makes me feel good. When I get it in return, in the form of insults or trash-talk, it really revs me up and helps me focus. And of course, it's a better spectacle for the audience.

The downside is that when I lose, it REALLY stings. In the PMs, I had Donald boasting that he only spent about 1 hour for the final round, and to lose after he said that is just depressing. But I bounce back, eventually, as does any loser.


From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.
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4/3/2014 7:50:23 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 7:42:22 AM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

Haha, it does make the debate more exciting and tense, and not just for the people watching. I love being able to talk bluntly and directly; it honestly makes me feel good. When I get it in return, in the form of insults or trash-talk, it really revs me up and helps me focus. And of course, it's a better spectacle for the audience.

The downside is that when I lose, it REALLY stings. In the PMs, I had Donald boasting that he only spent about 1 hour for the final round, and to lose after he said that is just depressing. But I bounce back, eventually, as does any loser.


From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.


You think that's heated? I punch people because of their political beliefs.
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4/3/2014 7:51:39 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 7:50:23 AM, Kc1999 wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:42:22 AM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

Haha, it does make the debate more exciting and tense, and not just for the people watching. I love being able to talk bluntly and directly; it honestly makes me feel good. When I get it in return, in the form of insults or trash-talk, it really revs me up and helps me focus. And of course, it's a better spectacle for the audience.

The downside is that when I lose, it REALLY stings. In the PMs, I had Donald boasting that he only spent about 1 hour for the final round, and to lose after he said that is just depressing. But I bounce back, eventually, as does any loser.


From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.



You think that's heated? I punch people because of their political beliefs.

I punch people regardless.
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4/3/2014 7:52:23 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 7:51:39 AM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:50:23 AM, Kc1999 wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:42:22 AM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

Haha, it does make the debate more exciting and tense, and not just for the people watching. I love being able to talk bluntly and directly; it honestly makes me feel good. When I get it in return, in the form of insults or trash-talk, it really revs me up and helps me focus. And of course, it's a better spectacle for the audience.

The downside is that when I lose, it REALLY stings. In the PMs, I had Donald boasting that he only spent about 1 hour for the final round, and to lose after he said that is just depressing. But I bounce back, eventually, as does any loser.


From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.



You think that's heated? I punch people because of their political beliefs.

I punch people regardless.

We make good buddies then.
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4/3/2014 7:52:29 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life. This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

All is fair once in the ring, right?All that matters is changing people's minds.

It often works backwards too, where over aggression and over zealous remarks stand to make a fool of yourself if your opponent decides not to play the same game and point it out.
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4/3/2014 8:29:23 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
It was interesting to read Zarroette's response to this. I guess I can understand how it could be exciting for her and exciting for the people reading the debates. A little drama can be fun because then it's not just the content of the debate that's at stake, but everybody's ego as well.

It doesn't do it for me, though. I don't even like to see trash talk in MMA.
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4/3/2014 9:02:59 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 7:50:23 AM, Kc1999 wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:42:22 AM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

Haha, it does make the debate more exciting and tense, and not just for the people watching. I love being able to talk bluntly and directly; it honestly makes me feel good. When I get it in return, in the form of insults or trash-talk, it really revs me up and helps me focus. And of course, it's a better spectacle for the audience.

The downside is that when I lose, it REALLY stings. In the PMs, I had Donald boasting that he only spent about 1 hour for the final round, and to lose after he said that is just depressing. But I bounce back, eventually, as does any loser.


From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.



You think that's heated? I punch people because of their political beliefs.

Lol. I do not want to mess with you.
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4/3/2014 9:03:54 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I really enjoy Zarroette's presence on DDO. Many people rage on her because of her strong beliefs that contradicts theirs, but I like it because it makes this site more diverse. Furthermore, she's a great debater who actively participates in forums.
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4/3/2014 9:09:14 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 7:51:39 AM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:50:23 AM, Kc1999 wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:42:22 AM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

Haha, it does make the debate more exciting and tense, and not just for the people watching. I love being able to talk bluntly and directly; it honestly makes me feel good. When I get it in return, in the form of insults or trash-talk, it really revs me up and helps me focus. And of course, it's a better spectacle for the audience.

The downside is that when I lose, it REALLY stings. In the PMs, I had Donald boasting that he only spent about 1 hour for the final round, and to lose after he said that is just depressing. But I bounce back, eventually, as does any loser.


From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.



You think that's heated? I punch people because of their political beliefs.

I punch people regardless.

Lol. Well, sometimes I punch a wall to prove my point. This way, I keep my pride and no one gets hurt.
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4/3/2014 9:25:01 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 7:42:22 AM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

Haha, it does make the debate more exciting and tense, and not just for the people watching. I love being able to talk bluntly and directly; it honestly makes me feel good. When I get it in return, in the form of insults or trash-talk, it really revs me up and helps me focus. And of course, it's a better spectacle for the audience.

The downside is that when I lose, it REALLY stings. In the PMs, I had Donald boasting that he only spent about 1 hour for the final round, and to lose after he said that is just depressing. But I bounce back, eventually, as does any loser.


From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.

Haha, Were you pro or con in that topic? And who was that guy?
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4/3/2014 9:38:30 AM
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4/3/2014 11:40:54 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life. This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I had a fun debate with her and she was fine. I can't say she's ever been very rude to me, but I could see her getting upset at people who disagree with her and p*ss her off, lol.

Of course I don't think anyone should be insulting anyone else, but I can sympathize lots of the time.
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4/3/2014 7:01:44 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 9:25:01 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:42:22 AM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

Haha, it does make the debate more exciting and tense, and not just for the people watching. I love being able to talk bluntly and directly; it honestly makes me feel good. When I get it in return, in the form of insults or trash-talk, it really revs me up and helps me focus. And of course, it's a better spectacle for the audience.

The downside is that when I lose, it REALLY stings. In the PMs, I had Donald boasting that he only spent about 1 hour for the final round, and to lose after he said that is just depressing. But I bounce back, eventually, as does any loser.


From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.

Haha, Were you pro or con in that topic? And who was that guy?

Pro.

He was just a semi-acquaintance from tafe. He was talking about how much meat he eats, and how great it is. I asked him to consider the suffering that killing animals like that causes. We said a couple more things, then he said, "for every animal you eat, I'm going to eat three". I called him an 'amoral f*ckwit', and then it got very heated. Not really constructive at all...
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4/3/2014 9:56:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 7:01:44 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:25:01 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:42:22 AM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

Haha, it does make the debate more exciting and tense, and not just for the people watching. I love being able to talk bluntly and directly; it honestly makes me feel good. When I get it in return, in the form of insults or trash-talk, it really revs me up and helps me focus. And of course, it's a better spectacle for the audience.

The downside is that when I lose, it REALLY stings. In the PMs, I had Donald boasting that he only spent about 1 hour for the final round, and to lose after he said that is just depressing. But I bounce back, eventually, as does any loser.


From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.

Haha, Were you pro or con in that topic? And who was that guy?

Pro.

He was just a semi-acquaintance from tafe. He was talking about how much meat he eats, and how great it is. I asked him to consider the suffering that killing animals like that causes. We said a couple more things, then he said, "for every animal you eat, I'm going to eat three". I called him an 'amoral f*ckwit', and then it got very heated. Not really constructive at all...

I eat animals while they're still alive.
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4/3/2014 9:58:05 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 9:56:10 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:01:44 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:25:01 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:42:22 AM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

Haha, it does make the debate more exciting and tense, and not just for the people watching. I love being able to talk bluntly and directly; it honestly makes me feel good. When I get it in return, in the form of insults or trash-talk, it really revs me up and helps me focus. And of course, it's a better spectacle for the audience.

The downside is that when I lose, it REALLY stings. In the PMs, I had Donald boasting that he only spent about 1 hour for the final round, and to lose after he said that is just depressing. But I bounce back, eventually, as does any loser.


From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.

Haha, Were you pro or con in that topic? And who was that guy?

Pro.

He was just a semi-acquaintance from tafe. He was talking about how much meat he eats, and how great it is. I asked him to consider the suffering that killing animals like that causes. We said a couple more things, then he said, "for every animal you eat, I'm going to eat three". I called him an 'amoral f*ckwit', and then it got very heated. Not really constructive at all...

I eat animals while they're still alive.

Really? What animals exactly?
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4/3/2014 9:59:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 9:58:05 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:56:10 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:01:44 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:25:01 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:42:22 AM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

Haha, it does make the debate more exciting and tense, and not just for the people watching. I love being able to talk bluntly and directly; it honestly makes me feel good. When I get it in return, in the form of insults or trash-talk, it really revs me up and helps me focus. And of course, it's a better spectacle for the audience.

The downside is that when I lose, it REALLY stings. In the PMs, I had Donald boasting that he only spent about 1 hour for the final round, and to lose after he said that is just depressing. But I bounce back, eventually, as does any loser.


From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.

Haha, Were you pro or con in that topic? And who was that guy?

Pro.

He was just a semi-acquaintance from tafe. He was talking about how much meat he eats, and how great it is. I asked him to consider the suffering that killing animals like that causes. We said a couple more things, then he said, "for every animal you eat, I'm going to eat three". I called him an 'amoral f*ckwit', and then it got very heated. Not really constructive at all...

I eat animals while they're still alive.

Really? What animals exactly?

Snakes. That way they get a taste of their own stomach ac- er, I mean medicine. :P
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"primal man had the habit, when he came into contact with fire, of satisfying the infantile desire connected with it, by putting it out with a stream of his urine... Putting out the fire by micturating was therefore a kind of sexual act with a male, an enjoyment of sexual potency in a homosexual competition."
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4/3/2014 10:00:46 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 9:59:11 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:58:05 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:56:10 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:01:44 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:25:01 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:42:22 AM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

Haha, it does make the debate more exciting and tense, and not just for the people watching. I love being able to talk bluntly and directly; it honestly makes me feel good. When I get it in return, in the form of insults or trash-talk, it really revs me up and helps me focus. And of course, it's a better spectacle for the audience.

The downside is that when I lose, it REALLY stings. In the PMs, I had Donald boasting that he only spent about 1 hour for the final round, and to lose after he said that is just depressing. But I bounce back, eventually, as does any loser.


From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.

Haha, Were you pro or con in that topic? And who was that guy?

Pro.

He was just a semi-acquaintance from tafe. He was talking about how much meat he eats, and how great it is. I asked him to consider the suffering that killing animals like that causes. We said a couple more things, then he said, "for every animal you eat, I'm going to eat three". I called him an 'amoral f*ckwit', and then it got very heated. Not really constructive at all...

I eat animals while they're still alive.

Really? What animals exactly?

Snakes. That way they get a taste of their own stomach ac- er, I mean medicine. :P

C'mon, snakes can feel pain too!
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4/3/2014 10:03:33 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 10:00:46 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:59:11 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:58:05 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:56:10 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:01:44 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:25:01 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:42:22 AM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

Haha, it does make the debate more exciting and tense, and not just for the people watching. I love being able to talk bluntly and directly; it honestly makes me feel good. When I get it in return, in the form of insults or trash-talk, it really revs me up and helps me focus. And of course, it's a better spectacle for the audience.

The downside is that when I lose, it REALLY stings. In the PMs, I had Donald boasting that he only spent about 1 hour for the final round, and to lose after he said that is just depressing. But I bounce back, eventually, as does any loser.


From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.

Haha, Were you pro or con in that topic? And who was that guy?

Pro.

He was just a semi-acquaintance from tafe. He was talking about how much meat he eats, and how great it is. I asked him to consider the suffering that killing animals like that causes. We said a couple more things, then he said, "for every animal you eat, I'm going to eat three". I called him an 'amoral f*ckwit', and then it got very heated. Not really constructive at all...

I eat animals while they're still alive.

Really? What animals exactly?

Snakes. That way they get a taste of their own stomach ac- er, I mean medicine. :P

C'mon, snakes can feel pain too!

Exactly! :D That's why I do it!!! So they can feel the pain they inflict on all other animals! Maybe then they will learn their lesson. :|
"Delete your fvcking sig" -1hard

"primal man had the habit, when he came into contact with fire, of satisfying the infantile desire connected with it, by putting it out with a stream of his urine... Putting out the fire by micturating was therefore a kind of sexual act with a male, an enjoyment of sexual potency in a homosexual competition."
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4/3/2014 10:04:56 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 10:03:33 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:00:46 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:59:11 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:58:05 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:56:10 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:01:44 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:25:01 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:42:22 AM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

Haha, it does make the debate more exciting and tense, and not just for the people watching. I love being able to talk bluntly and directly; it honestly makes me feel good. When I get it in return, in the form of insults or trash-talk, it really revs me up and helps me focus. And of course, it's a better spectacle for the audience.

The downside is that when I lose, it REALLY stings. In the PMs, I had Donald boasting that he only spent about 1 hour for the final round, and to lose after he said that is just depressing. But I bounce back, eventually, as does any loser.


From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.

Haha, Were you pro or con in that topic? And who was that guy?

Pro.

He was just a semi-acquaintance from tafe. He was talking about how much meat he eats, and how great it is. I asked him to consider the suffering that killing animals like that causes. We said a couple more things, then he said, "for every animal you eat, I'm going to eat three". I called him an 'amoral f*ckwit', and then it got very heated. Not really constructive at all...

I eat animals while they're still alive.

Really? What animals exactly?

Snakes. That way they get a taste of their own stomach ac- er, I mean medicine. :P

C'mon, snakes can feel pain too!

Exactly! :D That's why I do it!!! So they can feel the pain they inflict on all other animals! Maybe then they will learn their lesson. :|

Do you honestly think that they have a capacity to understand what they're doing? Don't you think that it's purely instinctive, rather than behaviour that is intentionally malicious?
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4/3/2014 10:07:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 10:04:56 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:03:33 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:00:46 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:59:11 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:58:05 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:56:10 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:01:44 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:25:01 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:42:22 AM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

Haha, it does make the debate more exciting and tense, and not just for the people watching. I love being able to talk bluntly and directly; it honestly makes me feel good. When I get it in return, in the form of insults or trash-talk, it really revs me up and helps me focus. And of course, it's a better spectacle for the audience.

The downside is that when I lose, it REALLY stings. In the PMs, I had Donald boasting that he only spent about 1 hour for the final round, and to lose after he said that is just depressing. But I bounce back, eventually, as does any loser.


From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.

Haha, Were you pro or con in that topic? And who was that guy?

Pro.

He was just a semi-acquaintance from tafe. He was talking about how much meat he eats, and how great it is. I asked him to consider the suffering that killing animals like that causes. We said a couple more things, then he said, "for every animal you eat, I'm going to eat three". I called him an 'amoral f*ckwit', and then it got very heated. Not really constructive at all...

I eat animals while they're still alive.

Really? What animals exactly?

Snakes. That way they get a taste of their own stomach ac- er, I mean medicine. :P

C'mon, snakes can feel pain too!

Exactly! :D That's why I do it!!! So they can feel the pain they inflict on all other animals! Maybe then they will learn their lesson. :|

Do you honestly think that they have a capacity to understand what they're doing? Don't you think that it's purely instinctive, rather than behaviour that is intentionally malicious?

No, they definitely know what they're doing. Animals are smarter than you think. One snake told me how much he liked to eat babies. I told him it was no wonder that dipsh*ts like him screwed us over with Mada and Even.
"Delete your fvcking sig" -1hard

"primal man had the habit, when he came into contact with fire, of satisfying the infantile desire connected with it, by putting it out with a stream of his urine... Putting out the fire by micturating was therefore a kind of sexual act with a male, an enjoyment of sexual potency in a homosexual competition."
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4/3/2014 10:08:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 10:07:14 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:04:56 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:03:33 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:00:46 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:59:11 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:58:05 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:56:10 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:01:44 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:25:01 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:42:22 AM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

Haha, it does make the debate more exciting and tense, and not just for the people watching. I love being able to talk bluntly and directly; it honestly makes me feel good. When I get it in return, in the form of insults or trash-talk, it really revs me up and helps me focus. And of course, it's a better spectacle for the audience.

The downside is that when I lose, it REALLY stings. In the PMs, I had Donald boasting that he only spent about 1 hour for the final round, and to lose after he said that is just depressing. But I bounce back, eventually, as does any loser.


From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.

Haha, Were you pro or con in that topic? And who was that guy?

Pro.

He was just a semi-acquaintance from tafe. He was talking about how much meat he eats, and how great it is. I asked him to consider the suffering that killing animals like that causes. We said a couple more things, then he said, "for every animal you eat, I'm going to eat three". I called him an 'amoral f*ckwit', and then it got very heated. Not really constructive at all...

I eat animals while they're still alive.

Really? What animals exactly?

Snakes. That way they get a taste of their own stomach ac- er, I mean medicine. :P

C'mon, snakes can feel pain too!

Exactly! :D That's why I do it!!! So they can feel the pain they inflict on all other animals! Maybe then they will learn their lesson. :|

Do you honestly think that they have a capacity to understand what they're doing? Don't you think that it's purely instinctive, rather than behaviour that is intentionally malicious?

No, they definitely know what they're doing. Animals are smarter than you think. One snake told me how much he liked to eat babies. I told him it was no wonder that dipsh*ts like him screwed us over with Mada and Even.

Stop it, I know what you're trying to do. Just stop, please.
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4/3/2014 10:09:15 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 10:08:06 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:07:14 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:04:56 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:03:33 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:00:46 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:59:11 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:58:05 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:56:10 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:01:44 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:25:01 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:42:22 AM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

Haha, it does make the debate more exciting and tense, and not just for the people watching. I love being able to talk bluntly and directly; it honestly makes me feel good. When I get it in return, in the form of insults or trash-talk, it really revs me up and helps me focus. And of course, it's a better spectacle for the audience.

The downside is that when I lose, it REALLY stings. In the PMs, I had Donald boasting that he only spent about 1 hour for the final round, and to lose after he said that is just depressing. But I bounce back, eventually, as does any loser.


From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.

Haha, Were you pro or con in that topic? And who was that guy?

Pro.

He was just a semi-acquaintance from tafe. He was talking about how much meat he eats, and how great it is. I asked him to consider the suffering that killing animals like that causes. We said a couple more things, then he said, "for every animal you eat, I'm going to eat three". I called him an 'amoral f*ckwit', and then it got very heated. Not really constructive at all...

I eat animals while they're still alive.

Really? What animals exactly?

Snakes. That way they get a taste of their own stomach ac- er, I mean medicine. :P

C'mon, snakes can feel pain too!

Exactly! :D That's why I do it!!! So they can feel the pain they inflict on all other animals! Maybe then they will learn their lesson. :|

Do you honestly think that they have a capacity to understand what they're doing? Don't you think that it's purely instinctive, rather than behaviour that is intentionally malicious?

No, they definitely know what they're doing. Animals are smarter than you think. One snake told me how much he liked to eat babies. I told him it was no wonder that dipsh*ts like him screwed us over with Mada and Even.

Stop it, I know what you're trying to do. Just stop, please.

I'm just trolling you. ;) No hard feelings, lol
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"primal man had the habit, when he came into contact with fire, of satisfying the infantile desire connected with it, by putting it out with a stream of his urine... Putting out the fire by micturating was therefore a kind of sexual act with a male, an enjoyment of sexual potency in a homosexual competition."
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4/3/2014 10:10:16 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 10:09:15 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:08:06 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:07:14 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:04:56 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:03:33 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:00:46 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:59:11 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:58:05 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:56:10 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:01:44 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:25:01 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:42:22 AM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

Haha, it does make the debate more exciting and tense, and not just for the people watching. I love being able to talk bluntly and directly; it honestly makes me feel good. When I get it in return, in the form of insults or trash-talk, it really revs me up and helps me focus. And of course, it's a better spectacle for the audience.

The downside is that when I lose, it REALLY stings. In the PMs, I had Donald boasting that he only spent about 1 hour for the final round, and to lose after he said that is just depressing. But I bounce back, eventually, as does any loser.


From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.

Haha, Were you pro or con in that topic? And who was that guy?

Pro.

He was just a semi-acquaintance from tafe. He was talking about how much meat he eats, and how great it is. I asked him to consider the suffering that killing animals like that causes. We said a couple more things, then he said, "for every animal you eat, I'm going to eat three". I called him an 'amoral f*ckwit', and then it got very heated. Not really constructive at all...

I eat animals while they're still alive.

Really? What animals exactly?

Snakes. That way they get a taste of their own stomach ac- er, I mean medicine. :P

C'mon, snakes can feel pain too!

Exactly! :D That's why I do it!!! So they can feel the pain they inflict on all other animals! Maybe then they will learn their lesson. :|

Do you honestly think that they have a capacity to understand what they're doing? Don't you think that it's purely instinctive, rather than behaviour that is intentionally malicious?

No, they definitely know what they're doing. Animals are smarter than you think. One snake told me how much he liked to eat babies. I told him it was no wonder that dipsh*ts like him screwed us over with Mada and Even.

Stop it, I know what you're trying to do. Just stop, please.

I'm just trolling you. ;) No hard feelings, lol

It's not funny; I'm not making fun of your beliefs.
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4/3/2014 10:11:37 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 10:10:16 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:09:15 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:08:06 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:07:14 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:04:56 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:03:33 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:00:46 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:59:11 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:58:05 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:56:10 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:01:44 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:25:01 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:42:22 AM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

Haha, it does make the debate more exciting and tense, and not just for the people watching. I love being able to talk bluntly and directly; it honestly makes me feel good. When I get it in return, in the form of insults or trash-talk, it really revs me up and helps me focus. And of course, it's a better spectacle for the audience.

The downside is that when I lose, it REALLY stings. In the PMs, I had Donald boasting that he only spent about 1 hour for the final round, and to lose after he said that is just depressing. But I bounce back, eventually, as does any loser.


From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.

Haha, Were you pro or con in that topic? And who was that guy?

Pro.

He was just a semi-acquaintance from tafe. He was talking about how much meat he eats, and how great it is. I asked him to consider the suffering that killing animals like that causes. We said a couple more things, then he said, "for every animal you eat, I'm going to eat three". I called him an 'amoral f*ckwit', and then it got very heated. Not really constructive at all...

I eat animals while they're still alive.

Really? What animals exactly?

Snakes. That way they get a taste of their own stomach ac- er, I mean medicine. :P

C'mon, snakes can feel pain too!

Exactly! :D That's why I do it!!! So they can feel the pain they inflict on all other animals! Maybe then they will learn their lesson. :|

Do you honestly think that they have a capacity to understand what they're doing? Don't you think that it's purely instinctive, rather than behaviour that is intentionally malicious?

No, they definitely know what they're doing. Animals are smarter than you think. One snake told me how much he liked to eat babies. I told him it was no wonder that dipsh*ts like him screwed us over with Mada and Even.

Stop it, I know what you're trying to do. Just stop, please.

I'm just trolling you. ;) No hard feelings, lol

It's not funny; I'm not making fun of your beliefs.

Well I'm not trying to make fun of your beliefs either. I don't roll like that. If I were making fun of your beliefs, I would have been alot meaner :P
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4/3/2014 10:13:44 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 10:11:37 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:10:16 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:09:15 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:08:06 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:07:14 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:04:56 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:03:33 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:00:46 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:59:11 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:58:05 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:56:10 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:01:44 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:25:01 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:42:22 AM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

Haha, it does make the debate more exciting and tense, and not just for the people watching. I love being able to talk bluntly and directly; it honestly makes me feel good. When I get it in return, in the form of insults or trash-talk, it really revs me up and helps me focus. And of course, it's a better spectacle for the audience.

The downside is that when I lose, it REALLY stings. In the PMs, I had Donald boasting that he only spent about 1 hour for the final round, and to lose after he said that is just depressing. But I bounce back, eventually, as does any loser.


From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.

Haha, Were you pro or con in that topic? And who was that guy?

Pro.

He was just a semi-acquaintance from tafe. He was talking about how much meat he eats, and how great it is. I asked him to consider the suffering that killing animals like that causes. We said a couple more things, then he said, "for every animal you eat, I'm going to eat three". I called him an 'amoral f*ckwit', and then it got very heated. Not really constructive at all...

I eat animals while they're still alive.

Really? What animals exactly?

Snakes. That way they get a taste of their own stomach ac- er, I mean medicine. :P

C'mon, snakes can feel pain too!

Exactly! :D That's why I do it!!! So they can feel the pain they inflict on all other animals! Maybe then they will learn their lesson. :|

Do you honestly think that they have a capacity to understand what they're doing? Don't you think that it's purely instinctive, rather than behaviour that is intentionally malicious?

No, they definitely know what they're doing. Animals are smarter than you think. One snake told me how much he liked to eat babies. I told him it was no wonder that dipsh*ts like him screwed us over with Mada and Even.

Stop it, I know what you're trying to do. Just stop, please.

I'm just trolling you. ;) No hard feelings, lol

It's not funny; I'm not making fun of your beliefs.

Well I'm not trying to make fun of your beliefs either. I don't roll like that. If I were making fun of your beliefs, I would have been alot meaner :P

You're suggesting doing cruel things to animals. These kinds of things happen, in sh*tholes like Saudi Arabia and povo African countries, where humans are basically apes. It's upsetting to read things like what you wrote...
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4/3/2014 10:16:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago

From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.

Haha, Were you pro or con in that topic? And who was that guy?

Pro.

He was just a semi-acquaintance from tafe. He was talking about how much meat he eats, and how great it is. I asked him to consider the suffering that killing animals like that causes. We said a couple more things, then he said, "for every animal you eat, I'm going to eat three". I called him an 'amoral f*ckwit', and then it got very heated. Not really constructive at all...

I eat animals while they're still alive.

Really? What animals exactly?

Snakes. That way they get a taste of their own stomach ac- er, I mean medicine. :P

C'mon, snakes can feel pain too!

Exactly! :D That's why I do it!!! So they can feel the pain they inflict on all other animals! Maybe then they will learn their lesson. :|

Do you honestly think that they have a capacity to understand what they're doing? Don't you think that it's purely instinctive, rather than behaviour that is intentionally malicious?

No, they definitely know what they're doing. Animals are smarter than you think. One snake told me how much he liked to eat babies. I told him it was no wonder that dipsh*ts like him screwed us over with Mada and Even.

Stop it, I know what you're trying to do. Just stop, please.

I'm just trolling you. ;) No hard feelings, lol

It's not funny; I'm not making fun of your beliefs.

Well I'm not trying to make fun of your beliefs either. I don't roll like that. If I were making fun of your beliefs, I would have been alot meaner :P

You're suggesting doing cruel things to animals. These kinds of things happen, in sh*tholes like Saudi Arabia and povo African countries, where humans are basically apes. It's upsetting to read things like what you wrote...

Well I'm sorry I offended you, I was just joking around :P

Are you offended by holocaust jokes, yo mama jokes, or any joke that makes light of something serious? I'm just curious, because I'm usually not personally offended by jokes if they're meant in a jocular manner. I might think they're inappropriate or not funny, but yeah...
"Delete your fvcking sig" -1hard

"primal man had the habit, when he came into contact with fire, of satisfying the infantile desire connected with it, by putting it out with a stream of his urine... Putting out the fire by micturating was therefore a kind of sexual act with a male, an enjoyment of sexual potency in a homosexual competition."
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4/3/2014 10:19:05 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 10:13:44 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:11:37 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:10:16 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:09:15 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:08:06 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:07:14 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:04:56 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:03:33 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:00:46 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:59:11 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:58:05 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:56:10 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:01:44 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 9:25:01 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:42:22 AM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 7:00:40 AM, Speakerfrthedead wrote:
Well, the real question is, is she justified when she takes on a 'mean' stance in debates and mocks the other debater for their mistakes or falsehood? I think she is justified in her behaviour when she calls the other a 'coward' because it makes the debate more exciting and tense. It makes it interesting to watch the two debater's relationship throughout the rounds and I found my favourite debate from her to be, "Islam is a religion of terror".

Haha, it does make the debate more exciting and tense, and not just for the people watching. I love being able to talk bluntly and directly; it honestly makes me feel good. When I get it in return, in the form of insults or trash-talk, it really revs me up and helps me focus. And of course, it's a better spectacle for the audience.

The downside is that when I lose, it REALLY stings. In the PMs, I had Donald boasting that he only spent about 1 hour for the final round, and to lose after he said that is just depressing. But I bounce back, eventually, as does any loser.


From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.

Haha, Were you pro or con in that topic? And who was that guy?

Pro.

He was just a semi-acquaintance from tafe. He was talking about how much meat he eats, and how great it is. I asked him to consider the suffering that killing animals like that causes. We said a couple more things, then he said, "for every animal you eat, I'm going to eat three". I called him an 'amoral f*ckwit', and then it got very heated. Not really constructive at all...

I eat animals while they're still alive.

Really? What animals exactly?

Snakes. That way they get a taste of their own stomach ac- er, I mean medicine. :P

C'mon, snakes can feel pain too!

Exactly! :D That's why I do it!!! So they can feel the pain they inflict on all other animals! Maybe then they will learn their lesson. :|

Do you honestly think that they have a capacity to understand what they're doing? Don't you think that it's purely instinctive, rather than behaviour that is intentionally malicious?

No, they definitely know what they're doing. Animals are smarter than you think. One snake told me how much he liked to eat babies. I told him it was no wonder that dipsh*ts like him screwed us over with Mada and Even.

Stop it, I know what you're trying to do. Just stop, please.

I'm just trolling you. ;) No hard feelings, lol

It's not funny; I'm not making fun of your beliefs.

Well I'm not trying to make fun of your beliefs either. I don't roll like that. If I were making fun of your beliefs, I would have been alot meaner :P

You're suggesting doing cruel things to animals. These kinds of things happen, in sh*tholes like Saudi Arabia and povo African countries, where humans are basically apes. It's upsetting to read things like what you wrote...

I do think that unneeded animal cruelty is wrong and disgusting, but I guess I don't understand why you'd be so offended by my joking around... *shrugs*
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4/3/2014 10:19:48 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 10:16:30 PM, zmikecuber wrote:

From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.

Haha, Were you pro or con in that topic? And who was that guy?

Pro.

He was just a semi-acquaintance from tafe. He was talking about how much meat he eats, and how great it is. I asked him to consider the suffering that killing animals like that causes. We said a couple more things, then he said, "for every animal you eat, I'm going to eat three". I called him an 'amoral f*ckwit', and then it got very heated. Not really constructive at all...

I eat animals while they're still alive.

Really? What animals exactly?

Snakes. That way they get a taste of their own stomach ac- er, I mean medicine. :P

C'mon, snakes can feel pain too!

Exactly! :D That's why I do it!!! So they can feel the pain they inflict on all other animals! Maybe then they will learn their lesson. :|

Do you honestly think that they have a capacity to understand what they're doing? Don't you think that it's purely instinctive, rather than behaviour that is intentionally malicious?

No, they definitely know what they're doing. Animals are smarter than you think. One snake told me how much he liked to eat babies. I told him it was no wonder that dipsh*ts like him screwed us over with Mada and Even.

Stop it, I know what you're trying to do. Just stop, please.

I'm just trolling you. ;) No hard feelings, lol

It's not funny; I'm not making fun of your beliefs.

Well I'm not trying to make fun of your beliefs either. I don't roll like that. If I were making fun of your beliefs, I would have been alot meaner :P

You're suggesting doing cruel things to animals. These kinds of things happen, in sh*tholes like Saudi Arabia and povo African countries, where humans are basically apes. It's upsetting to read things like what you wrote...

Well I'm sorry I offended you, I was just joking around :P

Yeah, but you were saying serious things...


Are you offended by holocaust jokes, yo mama jokes, or any joke that makes light of something serious? I'm just curious, because I'm usually not personally offended by jokes if they're meant in a jocular manner. I might think they're inappropriate or not funny, but yeah...

No, but there's a difference between a joke, and jokingly taking things seriously.
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4/3/2014 10:22:42 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/3/2014 10:19:48 PM, Zarroette wrote:
At 4/3/2014 10:16:30 PM, zmikecuber wrote:

From some of the things she has shared, it seems like she has gone through a lot of crap and seen most of the unfair things in life.

I honestly think that plenty of people have gone through a lot of crap, especially older people. But yeah, I've had some experiences that have made me seriously question why I even bother with life.

This might explain her aggressive approach to debating and her passion for arguing. But is it okay for her to debate in this fashion? Is it okay for her to humiliate the other and tear them down to pieces? I think she is sort of justified, but what do you think?

Not under the new policy. It's somewhat of a shame, but it's for the better, I think.


And if Zarroette is reading this, I want to ask if you debate with other people in real life the same way that you debate on DDO?

I've never been in any kind of debate irl. But believe it or not, when I get into arguments over politics and philosophy, it tends to get more heated than what you see here, lol. I was screaming at this guy the other day, at tafe, who was also yelling at me. This was over animals rights.

Haha, Were you pro or con in that topic? And who was that guy?

Pro.

He was just a semi-acquaintance from tafe. He was talking about how much meat he eats, and how great it is. I asked him to consider the suffering that killing animals like that causes. We said a couple more things, then he said, "for every animal you eat, I'm going to eat three". I called him an 'amoral f*ckwit', and then it got very heated. Not really constructive at all...

I eat animals while they're still alive.

Really? What animals exactly?

Snakes. That way they get a taste of their own stomach ac- er, I mean medicine. :P

C'mon, snakes can feel pain too!

Exactly! :D That's why I do it!!! So they can feel the pain they inflict on all other animals! Maybe then they will learn their lesson. :|

Do you honestly think that they have a capacity to understand what they're doing? Don't you think that it's purely instinctive, rather than behaviour that is intentionally malicious?

No, they definitely know what they're doing. Animals are smarter than you think. One snake told me how much he liked to eat babies. I told him it was no wonder that dipsh*ts like him screwed us over with Mada and Even.

Stop it, I know what you're trying to do. Just stop, please.

I'm just trolling you. ;) No hard feelings, lol

It's not funny; I'm not making fun of your beliefs.

Well I'm not trying to make fun of your beliefs either. I don't roll like that. If I were making fun of your beliefs, I would have been alot meaner :P

You're suggesting doing cruel things to animals. These kinds of things happen, in sh*tholes like Saudi Arabia and povo African countries, where humans are basically apes. It's upsetting to read things like what you wrote...

Well I'm sorry I offended you, I was just joking around :P

Yeah, but you were saying serious things...


Yes, I was joking about something I think is immoral... That doesn't always offend me personally. I make d*ck jokes and crude sexual jokes all the time with my brothers, even though it's about stuff I think is seriously immoral...


Are you offended by holocaust jokes, yo mama jokes, or any joke that makes light of something serious? I'm just curious, because I'm usually not personally offended by jokes if they're meant in a jocular manner. I might think they're inappropriate or not funny, but yeah...

No, but there's a difference between a joke, and jokingly taking things seriously.

*shrugs* I don't see a problem with what I said, but if it offended you I can't change anything now, other than say I am sorry, and it was not my intent to offend you or make fun of you and your beliefs.
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"primal man had the habit, when he came into contact with fire, of satisfying the infantile desire connected with it, by putting it out with a stream of his urine... Putting out the fire by micturating was therefore a kind of sexual act with a male, an enjoyment of sexual potency in a homosexual competition."