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4/27/2014 7:34:31 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I posted this originally in the art forum, but it looks to me like no-mans land there, so here I am.

Lately I downloaded and printed off this piece of music because it advertised itself as being 'advanced.' To any decent piano player, I'd appreciate it if you could give me advice on some parts within the piece: http://sheethost.com... (may require download to view the other pages).

The first point I find difficult is the A diminished 5th arpeggio that runs down 5 octaves in demi-semi quavers at bar 26. It runs too quickly to utilize both hands, thus using 1 hand is the only way to do it. The problem I have is that I simply cannot move my hand fast enough to the next position after I have pressed the A with my thumb. How do I approach this situation?

The second problem I'm having starts at bar 34. Here the left hand part breaks off into two parts where one is the melody up around middle C, and the lower part is rhythmic harmony part an octave lower. Playing 3 parts with 2 hands would not be such a bother if I knew how to do it without utilizing my extensor muscles in my arm to move my left hand left and right at the speed of the song. As a concert technique, I must not use any arm muscles and minimize any and all muscle use in order to play at speed for prolonged periods of time. I have experimented with moving left, then up and back down to the melody part to avoid using the extensor muscle whilst still producing the correct tone, however accuracy is somewhat diminished. My problem here is not that I am failing to hit the correct notes on time, but that I can feel it in my arms, and therefore I am doing it incorrectly. How do I actually do this?

The final part I am having difficulty with is bar 42. I can play this except always somewhere one of the notes will be wrong as I have missed them while playing. What would you suggest I do?

To anyone who may grant me the advice, I thank thee.
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4/27/2014 2:03:35 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/27/2014 7:34:31 AM, Smithereens wrote:
I posted this originally in the art forum, but it looks to me like no-mans land there, so here I am.

Lately I downloaded and printed off this piece of music because it advertised itself as being 'advanced.' To any decent piano player, I'd appreciate it if you could give me advice on some parts within the piece: http://sheethost.com... (may require download to view the other pages).

The first point I find difficult is the A diminished 5th arpeggio that runs down 5 octaves in demi-semi quavers at bar 26. It runs too quickly to utilize both hands, thus using 1 hand is the only way to do it. The problem I have is that I simply cannot move my hand fast enough to the next position after I have pressed the A with my thumb. How do I approach this situation?

The second problem I'm having starts at bar 34. Here the left hand part breaks off into two parts where one is the melody up around middle C, and the lower part is rhythmic harmony part an octave lower. Playing 3 parts with 2 hands would not be such a bother if I knew how to do it without utilizing my extensor muscles in my arm to move my left hand left and right at the speed of the song. As a concert technique, I must not use any arm muscles and minimize any and all muscle use in order to play at speed for prolonged periods of time. I have experimented with moving left, then up and back down to the melody part to avoid using the extensor muscle whilst still producing the correct tone, however accuracy is somewhat diminished. My problem here is not that I am failing to hit the correct notes on time, but that I can feel it in my arms, and therefore I am doing it incorrectly. How do I actually do this?

The final part I am having difficulty with is bar 42. I can play this except always somewhere one of the notes will be wrong as I have missed them while playing. What would you suggest I do?

To anyone who may grant me the advice, I thank thee.

I would suggest asking Crypto. He's pretty decent at piano if I remember.
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4/28/2014 3:48:14 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/27/2014 2:03:35 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/27/2014 7:34:31 AM, Smithereens wrote:
I posted this originally in the art forum, but it looks to me like no-mans land there, so here I am.

Lately I downloaded and printed off this piece of music because it advertised itself as being 'advanced.' To any decent piano player, I'd appreciate it if you could give me advice on some parts within the piece: http://sheethost.com... (may require download to view the other pages).

The first point I find difficult is the A diminished 5th arpeggio that runs down 5 octaves in demi-semi quavers at bar 26. It runs too quickly to utilize both hands, thus using 1 hand is the only way to do it. The problem I have is that I simply cannot move my hand fast enough to the next position after I have pressed the A with my thumb. How do I approach this situation?

The second problem I'm having starts at bar 34. Here the left hand part breaks off into two parts where one is the melody up around middle C, and the lower part is rhythmic harmony part an octave lower. Playing 3 parts with 2 hands would not be such a bother if I knew how to do it without utilizing my extensor muscles in my arm to move my left hand left and right at the speed of the song. As a concert technique, I must not use any arm muscles and minimize any and all muscle use in order to play at speed for prolonged periods of time. I have experimented with moving left, then up and back down to the melody part to avoid using the extensor muscle whilst still producing the correct tone, however accuracy is somewhat diminished. My problem here is not that I am failing to hit the correct notes on time, but that I can feel it in my arms, and therefore I am doing it incorrectly. How do I actually do this?

The final part I am having difficulty with is bar 42. I can play this except always somewhere one of the notes will be wrong as I have missed them while playing. What would you suggest I do?

To anyone who may grant me the advice, I thank thee.

I would suggest asking Crypto. He's pretty decent at piano if I remember.

Didn't he leave the site?
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4/28/2014 10:03:56 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 3:48:14 AM, Smithereens wrote:
At 4/27/2014 2:03:35 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/27/2014 7:34:31 AM, Smithereens wrote:
I posted this originally in the art forum, but it looks to me like no-mans land there, so here I am.

Lately I downloaded and printed off this piece of music because it advertised itself as being 'advanced.' To any decent piano player, I'd appreciate it if you could give me advice on some parts within the piece: http://sheethost.com... (may require download to view the other pages).

The first point I find difficult is the A diminished 5th arpeggio that runs down 5 octaves in demi-semi quavers at bar 26. It runs too quickly to utilize both hands, thus using 1 hand is the only way to do it. The problem I have is that I simply cannot move my hand fast enough to the next position after I have pressed the A with my thumb. How do I approach this situation?

The second problem I'm having starts at bar 34. Here the left hand part breaks off into two parts where one is the melody up around middle C, and the lower part is rhythmic harmony part an octave lower. Playing 3 parts with 2 hands would not be such a bother if I knew how to do it without utilizing my extensor muscles in my arm to move my left hand left and right at the speed of the song. As a concert technique, I must not use any arm muscles and minimize any and all muscle use in order to play at speed for prolonged periods of time. I have experimented with moving left, then up and back down to the melody part to avoid using the extensor muscle whilst still producing the correct tone, however accuracy is somewhat diminished. My problem here is not that I am failing to hit the correct notes on time, but that I can feel it in my arms, and therefore I am doing it incorrectly. How do I actually do this?

The final part I am having difficulty with is bar 42. I can play this except always somewhere one of the notes will be wrong as I have missed them while playing. What would you suggest I do?

To anyone who may grant me the advice, I thank thee.

I would suggest asking Crypto. He's pretty decent at piano if I remember.

Didn't he leave the site?

WHAT?? You're right, he did. O.O Why did he leave?
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4/29/2014 1:58:11 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 10:03:56 AM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/28/2014 3:48:14 AM, Smithereens wrote:
At 4/27/2014 2:03:35 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/27/2014 7:34:31 AM, Smithereens wrote:
I posted this originally in the art forum, but it looks to me like no-mans land there, so here I am.

Lately I downloaded and printed off this piece of music because it advertised itself as being 'advanced.' To any decent piano player, I'd appreciate it if you could give me advice on some parts within the piece: http://sheethost.com... (may require download to view the other pages).

The first point I find difficult is the A diminished 5th arpeggio that runs down 5 octaves in demi-semi quavers at bar 26. It runs too quickly to utilize both hands, thus using 1 hand is the only way to do it. The problem I have is that I simply cannot move my hand fast enough to the next position after I have pressed the A with my thumb. How do I approach this situation?

The second problem I'm having starts at bar 34. Here the left hand part breaks off into two parts where one is the melody up around middle C, and the lower part is rhythmic harmony part an octave lower. Playing 3 parts with 2 hands would not be such a bother if I knew how to do it without utilizing my extensor muscles in my arm to move my left hand left and right at the speed of the song. As a concert technique, I must not use any arm muscles and minimize any and all muscle use in order to play at speed for prolonged periods of time. I have experimented with moving left, then up and back down to the melody part to avoid using the extensor muscle whilst still producing the correct tone, however accuracy is somewhat diminished. My problem here is not that I am failing to hit the correct notes on time, but that I can feel it in my arms, and therefore I am doing it incorrectly. How do I actually do this?

The final part I am having difficulty with is bar 42. I can play this except always somewhere one of the notes will be wrong as I have missed them while playing. What would you suggest I do?

To anyone who may grant me the advice, I thank thee.

I would suggest asking Crypto. He's pretty decent at piano if I remember.

Didn't he leave the site?

WHAT?? You're right, he did. O.O Why did he leave?

It was a dark, cold night... and I really don't know why.
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4/29/2014 2:10:09 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 10:03:56 AM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/28/2014 3:48:14 AM, Smithereens wrote:
At 4/27/2014 2:03:35 PM, zmikecuber wrote:
At 4/27/2014 7:34:31 AM, Smithereens wrote:
I posted this originally in the art forum, but it looks to me like no-mans land there, so here I am.

Lately I downloaded and printed off this piece of music because it advertised itself as being 'advanced.' To any decent piano player, I'd appreciate it if you could give me advice on some parts within the piece: http://sheethost.com... (may require download to view the other pages).

The first point I find difficult is the A diminished 5th arpeggio that runs down 5 octaves in demi-semi quavers at bar 26. It runs too quickly to utilize both hands, thus using 1 hand is the only way to do it. The problem I have is that I simply cannot move my hand fast enough to the next position after I have pressed the A with my thumb. How do I approach this situation?

The second problem I'm having starts at bar 34. Here the left hand part breaks off into two parts where one is the melody up around middle C, and the lower part is rhythmic harmony part an octave lower. Playing 3 parts with 2 hands would not be such a bother if I knew how to do it without utilizing my extensor muscles in my arm to move my left hand left and right at the speed of the song. As a concert technique, I must not use any arm muscles and minimize any and all muscle use in order to play at speed for prolonged periods of time. I have experimented with moving left, then up and back down to the melody part to avoid using the extensor muscle whilst still producing the correct tone, however accuracy is somewhat diminished. My problem here is not that I am failing to hit the correct notes on time, but that I can feel it in my arms, and therefore I am doing it incorrectly. How do I actually do this?

The final part I am having difficulty with is bar 42. I can play this except always somewhere one of the notes will be wrong as I have missed them while playing. What would you suggest I do?

To anyone who may grant me the advice, I thank thee.

I would suggest asking Crypto. He's pretty decent at piano if I remember.

Didn't he leave the site?

WHAT?? You're right, he did. O.O Why did he leave?

Isn't Crypto now Intrepid or something?
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4/29/2014 2:27:00 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Isn't Crypto now Intrepid or something?

Next time I see that man, I will question him. Ty for that helpful piece of information.
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