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6/4/2014 8:06:09 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Sounds like this is more about low self esteem and trying to feel better about themselves executing what they feel is powerful, but in reality is pretty pathetic. I mean.......come on....really? Does it really make these guys feel better about themselves by degrading someone else?
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6/4/2014 8:12:37 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/4/2014 8:06:09 AM, slo1 wrote:
Sounds like this is more about low self esteem and trying to feel better about themselves executing what they feel is powerful, but in reality is pretty pathetic. I mean.......come on....really? Does it really make these guys feel better about themselves by degrading someone else?

I'm assuming the sexual release makes them feel better. The degrading is typically done behind their back, so they probably view it as harmless.
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6/4/2014 8:16:56 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/4/2014 8:12:37 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/4/2014 8:06:09 AM, slo1 wrote:
Sounds like this is more about low self esteem and trying to feel better about themselves executing what they feel is powerful, but in reality is pretty pathetic. I mean.......come on....really? Does it really make these guys feel better about themselves by degrading someone else?

I'm assuming the sexual release makes them feel better. The degrading is typically done behind their back, so they probably view it as harmless.

There are many ways to get sexual release, so I would assume that your assumption is an improper assumption.

What is defective in these men, which require them to degrade others in order to feel better about themselves?
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6/4/2014 8:39:21 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/4/2014 8:30:59 AM, Eitan_Zohar wrote:
Why exactly would it be 'unethical?'

Read the article I linked to. It explains why. It's called hogging, big game hunting etc.
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6/4/2014 8:48:40 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I don't think hogging is immoral. It actually depends on how it's done. I would think their would be ethical hogging.

If the shoe was on the other foot. I wouldn't care. I don't care if a hot chick is having sex with me, as an ugly dude banging contest with her friends. I'd just be happy to screw some hot chick.
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6/4/2014 9:25:54 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/4/2014 6:19:05 AM, Wylted wrote:
What's everybody's opinion on big game hunting?

If there is grass on the field...

Do you participate in it?

Once or twice

Is it ethical?

Depends on the situation. If I run into a chubbz on the farm, and throw a saddle on her, it's probably not.

Any good hogging stories?

More like horror stories. Fat chick - twin sized bed - no A/C - yeahhh

http://m.clevescene.com...

I didn't open the link before responding... so I won't really know what it is until I post this, and then click the link post-posting now due to curiosity.
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6/4/2014 9:28:28 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/4/2014 6:19:05 AM, Wylted wrote:
What's everybody's opinion on big game hunting?

Do you participate in it?
Nope

Is it ethical?
I guess it could be... It's not necessarily a bad thing...

Any good hogging stories?
I've got hugging stories... XD

http://m.clevescene.com...
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6/4/2014 9:32:56 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/4/2014 9:25:54 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 6/4/2014 6:19:05 AM, Wylted wrote:
What's everybody's opinion on big game hunting?

If there is grass on the field...

Do you participate in it?

Once or twice

Is it ethical?

Depends on the situation. If I run into a chubbz on the farm, and throw a saddle on her, it's probably not.

Any good hogging stories?

More like horror stories. Fat chick - twin sized bed - no A/C - yeahhh

Fat chick. My moms house. Couch. Florida no AC, and she was a screamer.

No I'm kidding about the screamer part. I just wanted to out do you, sorry :(

http://m.clevescene.com...

I didn't open the link before responding... so I won't really know what it is until I post this, and then click the link post-posting now due to curiosity.
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6/4/2014 9:35:41 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/4/2014 9:28:28 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/4/2014 6:19:05 AM, Wylted wrote:
What's everybody's opinion on big game hunting?

Do you participate in it?
Nope

Is it ethical?
I guess it could be... It's not necessarily a bad thing...

Any good hogging stories?
I've got hugging stories... XD

That's adorable, lol. Okay tell me a hugging story.

http://m.clevescene.com...
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6/4/2014 9:47:11 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/4/2014 9:32:56 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/4/2014 9:25:54 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 6/4/2014 6:19:05 AM, Wylted wrote:
What's everybody's opinion on big game hunting?

If there is grass on the field...

Do you participate in it?

Once or twice

Is it ethical?

Depends on the situation. If I run into a chubbz on the farm, and throw a saddle on her, it's probably not.

Any good hogging stories?

More like horror stories. Fat chick - twin sized bed - no A/C - yeahhh

Fat chick. My moms house. Couch. Florida no AC, and she was a screamer.

Well, I feel your pain :) that good... grab onto something like a sweating whale pain.

No I'm kidding about the screamer part. I just wanted to out do you, sorry :(

It added a nice touch, like an olive in a martini.

http://m.clevescene.com...

I didn't open the link before responding... so I won't really know what it is until I post this, and then click the link post-posting now due to curiosity.
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6/4/2014 9:58:10 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/4/2014 9:35:41 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/4/2014 9:28:28 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/4/2014 6:19:05 AM, Wylted wrote:
What's everybody's opinion on big game hunting?

Do you participate in it?
Nope

Is it ethical?
I guess it could be... It's not necessarily a bad thing...

Any good hogging stories?
I've got hugging stories... XD

That's adorable, lol. Okay tell me a hugging story.

For my friend's birthday, I ran up behind her in school and attacked her and hugged her, yelling, "HAPPY DROP-DAY!" in her ear.....

.
.
.
That awkward moment when two people look alike... XD

http://m.clevescene.com...
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
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6/4/2014 10:00:41 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I got another story. You guys tell me if this is immoral. I have a friend and he took some drugs that was making him hallucinate. He was seeing demons everywhere. His girlfriend was extremely sexy, and also kind of high. I told him I could get rid of the demons by having ritualistic sex with his girlfriend, but it had to be done right then.

To my surprise he went for it and I banged his girlfriend. Ever since that time, he's stopped taking hallucinogenic drugs in my presence.
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6/4/2014 10:00:58 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/4/2014 8:48:40 AM, Wylted wrote:
I don't think hogging is immoral. It actually depends on how it's done. I would think their would be ethical hogging.

If the shoe was on the other foot. I wouldn't care. I don't care if a hot chick is having sex with me, as an ugly dude banging contest with her friends. I'd just be happy to screw some hot chick.

I hope you at least figure literally kicking out a woman from a car after a hummer as unethical.

If one is going to have sex with lots of different women, why can't just be a decent to them? And why is it any different with a skinny girl or a chunky girl?
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6/4/2014 10:02:30 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/4/2014 10:00:41 AM, Wylted wrote:
I got another story. You guys tell me if this is immoral. I have a friend and he took some drugs that was making him hallucinate. He was seeing demons everywhere. His girlfriend was extremely sexy, and also kind of high. I told him I could get rid of the demons by having ritualistic sex with his girlfriend, but it had to be done right then.

To my surprise he went for it and I banged his girlfriend. Ever since that time, he's stopped taking hallucinogenic drugs in my presence.

Yikes...

Did his girlfriend willingly have sex with you?
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
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6/4/2014 10:03:07 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/4/2014 9:58:10 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/4/2014 9:35:41 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/4/2014 9:28:28 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/4/2014 6:19:05 AM, Wylted wrote:
What's everybody's opinion on big game hunting?

Do you participate in it?
Nope

Is it ethical?
I guess it could be... It's not necessarily a bad thing...

Any good hogging stories?
I've got hugging stories... XD

That's adorable, lol. Okay tell me a hugging story.

For my friend's birthday, I ran up behind her in school and attacked her and hugged her, yelling, "HAPPY DROP-DAY!" in her ear.....

.
.
.
That awkward moment when two people look alike... XD

http://m.clevescene.com...

That's hilarious. I did a similar thing in a grocery store to some chick I thought was my fiance. My fiance walked up as I put my arms around this chick I thought was her, and I was in the dog house.
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6/4/2014 10:04:29 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/4/2014 6:19:05 AM, Wylted wrote:
What's everybody's opinion on big game hunting?

when i read this, i thought of like, deer hunting, not sex...

Do you participate in it?

still virgin

Is it ethical?

depends on what you define as ethical

Any good hogging stories?

i can make one up if you want

http://m.clevescene.com...
too lazy to click on the link lol
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6/4/2014 10:04:48 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/4/2014 10:02:30 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/4/2014 10:00:41 AM, Wylted wrote:
I got another story. You guys tell me if this is immoral. I have a friend and he took some drugs that was making him hallucinate. He was seeing demons everywhere. His girlfriend was extremely sexy, and also kind of high. I told him I could get rid of the demons by having ritualistic sex with his girlfriend, but it had to be done right then.

To my surprise he went for it and I banged his girlfriend. Ever since that time, he's stopped taking hallucinogenic drugs in my presence.

Yikes...

Did his girlfriend willingly have sex with you?

Yes, she went for it. He wasn't happy with her either, lol.
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6/4/2014 10:06:13 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/4/2014 10:03:07 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/4/2014 9:58:10 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/4/2014 9:35:41 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/4/2014 9:28:28 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/4/2014 6:19:05 AM, Wylted wrote:
What's everybody's opinion on big game hunting?

Do you participate in it?
Nope

Is it ethical?
I guess it could be... It's not necessarily a bad thing...

Any good hogging stories?
I've got hugging stories... XD

That's adorable, lol. Okay tell me a hugging story.

For my friend's birthday, I ran up behind her in school and attacked her and hugged her, yelling, "HAPPY DROP-DAY!" in her ear.....

.
.
.
That awkward moment when two people look alike... XD

http://m.clevescene.com...

That's hilarious. I did a similar thing in a grocery store to some chick I thought was my fiance. My fiance walked up as I put my arms around this chick I thought was her, and I was in the dog house.

Lol.

I like embarrassing myself though. My friends think it makes me weird and they agree I'm crazy.

But it's fun to see other's reactions to all the crap I've done..

Like for instance, I walked around school for the Science Fair dressed as a gigantic ant.
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
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6/4/2014 10:06:59 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/4/2014 10:00:58 AM, slo1 wrote:
At 6/4/2014 8:48:40 AM, Wylted wrote:
I don't think hogging is immoral. It actually depends on how it's done. I would think their would be ethical hogging.

If the shoe was on the other foot. I wouldn't care. I don't care if a hot chick is having sex with me, as an ugly dude banging contest with her friends. I'd just be happy to screw some hot chick.

I hope you at least figure literally kicking out a woman from a car after a hummer as unethical.

If one is going to have sex with lots of different women, why can't just be a decent to them? And why is it any different with a skinny girl or a chunky girl?

The difference between pursuing a one night stand your attracted to as opposed to just trying to catch your nut, could bring up ethical issues.

I do realize the example you mentioned would be unethical.
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6/4/2014 10:09:00 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/4/2014 10:06:13 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/4/2014 10:03:07 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/4/2014 9:58:10 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/4/2014 9:35:41 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/4/2014 9:28:28 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/4/2014 6:19:05 AM, Wylted wrote:
What's everybody's opinion on big game hunting?

Do you participate in it?
Nope

Is it ethical?
I guess it could be... It's not necessarily a bad thing...

Any good hogging stories?
I've got hugging stories... XD

That's adorable, lol. Okay tell me a hugging story.

For my friend's birthday, I ran up behind her in school and attacked her and hugged her, yelling, "HAPPY DROP-DAY!" in her ear.....

.
.
.
That awkward moment when two people look alike... XD

http://m.clevescene.com...

That's hilarious. I did a similar thing in a grocery store to some chick I thought was my fiance. My fiance walked up as I put my arms around this chick I thought was her, and I was in the dog house.

Lol.

I like embarrassing myself though. My friends think it makes me weird and they agree I'm crazy.

But it's fun to see other's reactions to all the crap I've done..

Like for instance, I walked around school for the Science Fair dressed as a gigantic ant.

That is weird and funny. I guess you just love to entertain people, huh?
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6/4/2014 10:09:03 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/4/2014 10:04:48 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/4/2014 10:02:30 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/4/2014 10:00:41 AM, Wylted wrote:
I got another story. You guys tell me if this is immoral. I have a friend and he took some drugs that was making him hallucinate. He was seeing demons everywhere. His girlfriend was extremely sexy, and also kind of high. I told him I could get rid of the demons by having ritualistic sex with his girlfriend, but it had to be done right then.

To my surprise he went for it and I banged his girlfriend. Ever since that time, he's stopped taking hallucinogenic drugs in my presence.

Yikes...

Did his girlfriend willingly have sex with you?

Yes, she went for it. He wasn't happy with her either, lol.

Then, I'm not sure.

Since it was consensual, it wasn't completely wrong... But then, she had a boyfriend and should've known better... But he was high... You did ask his permission... She did give consent...

So I'm unsure... This would make a good debate. If you do it, link me. I really wanna see it.
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
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6/4/2014 10:11:08 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/4/2014 10:09:00 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/4/2014 10:06:13 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/4/2014 10:03:07 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/4/2014 9:58:10 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/4/2014 9:35:41 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/4/2014 9:28:28 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/4/2014 6:19:05 AM, Wylted wrote:
What's everybody's opinion on big game hunting?

Do you participate in it?
Nope

Is it ethical?
I guess it could be... It's not necessarily a bad thing...

Any good hogging stories?
I've got hugging stories... XD

That's adorable, lol. Okay tell me a hugging story.

For my friend's birthday, I ran up behind her in school and attacked her and hugged her, yelling, "HAPPY DROP-DAY!" in her ear.....

.
.
.
That awkward moment when two people look alike... XD

http://m.clevescene.com...

That's hilarious. I did a similar thing in a grocery store to some chick I thought was my fiance. My fiance walked up as I put my arms around this chick I thought was her, and I was in the dog house.

Lol.

I like embarrassing myself though. My friends think it makes me weird and they agree I'm crazy.

But it's fun to see other's reactions to all the crap I've done..

Like for instance, I walked around school for the Science Fair dressed as a gigantic ant.

That is weird and funny. I guess you just love to entertain people, huh?

Yup. ^.^

One thing I cannot do irl is flirt though... This one guy tried to flirt with me during a break for a competition. And I LITERALLY turned and ran away from him across the field... Good times.
His friends laughed at me for the entire day...
>.<
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
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6/4/2014 10:13:29 AM
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At 6/4/2014 10:11:08 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:

One thing I cannot do irl is flirt though... This one guy tried to flirt with me during a break for a competition. And I LITERALLY turned and ran away from him across the field... Good times.
His friends laughed at me for the entire day...
>.<

D'awwwwww

you didn't flirt back??? how could you???
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6/4/2014 10:14:42 AM
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At 6/4/2014 10:13:29 AM, AngelofDeath wrote:
At 6/4/2014 10:11:08 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:

One thing I cannot do irl is flirt though... This one guy tried to flirt with me during a break for a competition. And I LITERALLY turned and ran away from him across the field... Good times.
His friends laughed at me for the entire day...
>.<

D'awwwwww

you didn't flirt back??? how could you???

YOU'RE BACK!!! :D
Solonkr~
I don't care about whether an ideology is "necessary" or not,
I care about how to solve problems,
which is what everyone else should also care about.

Ken~
In essence, the world is fucked up and you can either ignore it, become cynical or bitter about it.

Me~
"BAILEY + SOLON = SAILEY
MY SHIP SAILEY MUST SAIL"

SCREW THAT SHIZ #BANNIE = BAILEY & ANNIE

P.S. Shipped Sailey before it was cannon bitches.
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6/4/2014 10:15:50 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/4/2014 10:06:59 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/4/2014 10:00:58 AM, slo1 wrote:
At 6/4/2014 8:48:40 AM, Wylted wrote:
I don't think hogging is immoral. It actually depends on how it's done. I would think their would be ethical hogging.

If the shoe was on the other foot. I wouldn't care. I don't care if a hot chick is having sex with me, as an ugly dude banging contest with her friends. I'd just be happy to screw some hot chick.

I hope you at least figure literally kicking out a woman from a car after a hummer as unethical.

If one is going to have sex with lots of different women, why can't just be a decent to them? And why is it any different with a skinny girl or a chunky girl?

The difference between pursuing a one night stand your attracted to as opposed to just trying to catch your nut, could bring up ethical issues.

I do realize the example you mentioned would be unethical.

I fail to see how fat or skinny plays in to it. People who deem it unethical either do so from a standpoint of all premarital sex is unethical or my contention that separating women into those two different categories and treating the "fat" category differently is more of an issue of deploying the perception of power and control to address self esteem issues and acceptance from peers than anything else.

Why can't it be as easy as if you are attracted enough to a woman to engage in sex with her, go for the hook up and be decent about it. Who care whether anyone else thinks she is attractive or not.
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6/4/2014 10:19:17 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/4/2014 10:11:08 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/4/2014 10:09:00 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/4/2014 10:06:13 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/4/2014 10:03:07 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/4/2014 9:58:10 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/4/2014 9:35:41 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/4/2014 9:28:28 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/4/2014 6:19:05 AM, Wylted wrote:
What's everybody's opinion on big game hunting?

Do you participate in it?
Nope

Is it ethical?
I guess it could be... It's not necessarily a bad thing...

Any good hogging stories?
I've got hugging stories... XD

That's adorable, lol. Okay tell me a hugging story.

For my friend's birthday, I ran up behind her in school and attacked her and hugged her, yelling, "HAPPY DROP-DAY!" in her ear.....

.
.
.
That awkward moment when two people look alike... XD

http://m.clevescene.com...

That's hilarious. I did a similar thing in a grocery store to some chick I thought was my fiance. My fiance walked up as I put my arms around this chick I thought was her, and I was in the dog house.

Lol.

I like embarrassing myself though. My friends think it makes me weird and they agree I'm crazy.

But it's fun to see other's reactions to all the crap I've done..

Like for instance, I walked around school for the Science Fair dressed as a gigantic ant.

That is weird and funny. I guess you just love to entertain people, huh?

Yup. ^.^

One thing I cannot do irl is flirt though... This one guy tried to flirt with me during a break for a competition. And I LITERALLY turned and ran away from him across the field... Good times.
His friends laughed at me for the entire day...
>.<

Just be yourself. I flirt with everyone. So it's become natural. I wouldn't recommend that. Females don't have to take the initiative, so you're fine. Just relax and go with the flow. Remember silence is your friend. Don't think of it as awkward. Occasionally make the dude feel like an idiot for even trying to flirt with you. That way it will kill his ego a bit and give you more leverage should things go further.
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6/4/2014 10:20:50 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/4/2014 10:14:42 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:
At 6/4/2014 10:13:29 AM, AngelofDeath wrote:
At 6/4/2014 10:11:08 AM, ESocialBookworm wrote:

One thing I cannot do irl is flirt though... This one guy tried to flirt with me during a break for a competition. And I LITERALLY turned and ran away from him across the field... Good times.
His friends laughed at me for the entire day...
>.<

D'awwwwww

you didn't flirt back??? how could you???

YOU'RE BACK!!! :D

I AM!!!!!!

though idk for how long....
i should be getting my phone back in a few days lol ^_^
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