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mattrodstrom
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2/23/2010 10:00:06 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 2/23/2010 9:57:28 AM, comoncents wrote:

just tell your kid to chew.

It does suck for all those that died though.
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2/23/2010 10:24:57 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Coffee number 9 on that list?

I think they should do some research. Recent studies have only shown that coffee is healthy and prevents several diseases, although the caffeine amounts may be unhealthy if consumed too much, but there are caffeine-free coffee products and two-three ups of coffee do not contain dangerous amounts of caffeine (they do for children). Coffee may also be causing abortions to women who drink it during pregnancy, but that is only during that period, though.

It also reduces the pain on the back and neck, which is a positive thing if you sit on one chair at the school and have to turn your head to the sides all day long.
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2/23/2010 11:00:25 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 2/23/2010 10:24:57 AM, Mirza wrote:
Coffee number 9 on that list?

I think they should do some research. Recent studies have only shown that coffee is healthy and prevents several diseases, although the caffeine amounts may be unhealthy if consumed too much, but there are caffeine-free coffee products and two-three ups of coffee do not contain dangerous amounts of caffeine (they do for children). Coffee may also be causing abortions to women who drink it during pregnancy, but that is only during that period, though.

It also reduces the pain on the back and neck, which is a positive thing if you sit on one chair at the school and have to turn your head to the sides all day long.

The list is referring to the burn risks with it.
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2/23/2010 12:04:09 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 2/23/2010 11:11:25 AM, Mirza wrote:
At 2/23/2010 11:00:25 AM, OreEle wrote:
The list is referring to the burn risks with it.
Could've included many other drinks.

True, but coffee has the history behind it, as it explained in the article. Where other hot drinks do not.
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2/23/2010 12:10:02 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 2/23/2010 12:04:09 PM, OreEle wrote:
True, but coffee has the history behind it, as it explained in the article. Where other hot drinks do not.
The list makes it look like coffee is unhealthy as for its ingredients, which is wrong, at least according to most modern studies.
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2/23/2010 12:20:22 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 2/23/2010 12:10:02 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 2/23/2010 12:04:09 PM, OreEle wrote:
True, but coffee has the history behind it, as it explained in the article. Where other hot drinks do not.
The list makes it look like coffee is unhealthy as for its ingredients, which is wrong, at least according to most modern studies.

http://www.time.com...

If you only look at the list and not the articles for each item, then ya, you're getting the wrong impression, but that is not the list's fault.
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2/23/2010 12:28:11 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 2/23/2010 12:20:22 PM, OreEle wrote:
http://www.time.com...

If you only look at the list and not the articles for each item, then ya, you're getting the wrong impression, but that is not the list's fault.
Okay, trouble with sleeping. That includes many sodas too. There's a thing called caffeine-free coffee. It's also if you drink it like 2-3 hours before sleeping. If you sleep at 10PM and drink coffee at 4-5PM, then it would be fine I guess. As for the yellow teeth part, that too includes a lot of other drinks, including food. If you know how to take care of your teeth and don't drink like four big cups of coffee a day, then you'll do fine. Burn accidents, well let it cool down.
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2/23/2010 12:35:52 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 2/23/2010 12:28:11 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 2/23/2010 12:20:22 PM, OreEle wrote:
http://www.time.com...

If you only look at the list and not the articles for each item, then ya, you're getting the wrong impression, but that is not the list's fault.
Okay, trouble with sleeping. That includes many sodas too. There's a thing called caffeine-free coffee. It's also if you drink it like 2-3 hours before sleeping. If you sleep at 10PM and drink coffee at 4-5PM, then it would be fine I guess. As for the yellow teeth part, that too includes a lot of other drinks, including food. If you know how to take care of your teeth and don't drink like four big cups of coffee a day, then you'll do fine. Burn accidents, well let it cool down.

All those other things were dismissed by the article, it pointed them out as minor things, but the main thing it focused on is the burns, so arguing those others is pointless.

With the "let it cool down" for one, coffee is mostly water, which has an extremely high specific heat, so it doesn't cool down very quickly. Also, when people buy coffee from starbucks or dutch bros or anywhere else, they buy it to drink now, not to wait, and they are also often driving. So even if they choose to wait for it to cool down, if they hit a bump, or take a turn to fast, they can spill on their lap and burn themselves badly. And while it is possible for people take actions to protect themselves, that is not what this article is about. This is about the damage and injury that has already happened. While people CAN protect themselves, they DON'T.
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2/23/2010 12:40:35 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 2/23/2010 12:35:52 PM, OreEle wrote:

With the "let it cool down" for one, coffee is mostly water, which has an extremely high specific heat, so it doesn't cool down very quickly. Also, when people buy coffee from starbucks or dutch bros or anywhere else, they buy it to drink now, not to wait, and they are also often driving. So even if they choose to wait for it to cool down, if they hit a bump, or take a turn to fast, they can spill on their lap and burn themselves badly. And while it is possible for people take actions to protect themselves, that is not what this article is about. This is about the damage and injury that has already happened. While people CAN protect themselves, they DON'T.

Yeah, just b/c coffee's "dangerous" isn't a strike against it. I like hot coffee, not cool coffee.

Cool coffee is not nearly as good :)
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2/23/2010 12:40:41 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 2/23/2010 12:35:52 PM, OreEle wrote:
With the "let it cool down" for one, coffee is mostly water, which has an extremely high specific heat, so it doesn't cool down very quickly. Also, when people buy coffee from starbucks or dutch bros or anywhere else, they buy it to drink now, not to wait, and they are also often driving. So even if they choose to wait for it to cool down, if they hit a bump, or take a turn to fast, they can spill on their lap and burn themselves badly. And while it is possible for people take actions to protect themselves, that is not what this article is about. This is about the damage and injury that has already happened. While people CAN protect themselves, they DON'T.
Some shops sell coffee that is not so hot. I don't disagree with you there at all. People want to buy coffee and drink it the moment they buy it, not after 10-15 min. The car thing is true, too. However, tea is also water and that can be too warm as well. I guess people don't buy tea to drink in the car.

Nevertheless, coffee itself is healthy and prevents diseases in the long term, so the accidents caused by coffee can be dangerous, but drinking it safely is not.
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2/23/2010 12:42:22 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 2/23/2010 12:40:41 PM, Mirza wrote:

Nevertheless, coffee itself is healthy and prevents diseases in the long term, so the accidents caused by coffee can be dangerous, but drinking it safely is not.

And is it really more dangerous than hamburgers??

If you're gonna say something like that you should take stuff like long term health effects into consideration.

What's a little burn do anyhow??
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2/23/2010 12:47:14 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 2/23/2010 12:42:22 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
And is it really more dangerous than hamburgers??

If you're gonna say something like that you should take stuff like long term health effects into consideration.

What's a little burn do anyhow??
Read the entire thread.
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2/23/2010 12:47:32 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 2/23/2010 12:42:22 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
At 2/23/2010 12:40:41 PM, Mirza wrote:

Nevertheless, coffee itself is healthy and prevents diseases in the long term, so the accidents caused by coffee can be dangerous, but drinking it safely is not.

And is it really more dangerous than hamburgers??

If you're gonna say something like that you should take stuff like long term health effects into consideration.

What's a little burn do anyhow??

It also depends on the volume of drinking. Drinking a few cups a week is fine, having three a day is not. Much like wine, a glass or two of red wine a week has some very good health benefits, but when you drink too much, those benefits get outweighed by other things.

though a burn isn't usually that bad (though there are cases of 3rd degree burns, they are rare) and will go heal in a few days, but it really just puts you off for a while, especially since they are usually on their way to work and that bad mood can really make other things worse.
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