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wjmelements
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3/21/2010 5:18:24 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Game Changes
1. Askbob has replaced alex_hanson911.

Story 1
The New York Times
PRESIDENT IMPEACHED
Bill Clinton, elected yesterday, was determined incompetant and impeached. He will likely be remembered as the worst president to ever live.

Story 2
The New York Times
ODD TURN OF EVENTS AT CHAPPAQUIDICK
Ted Kennedy, drunk, drove the leader of ACORN off a bridge last night. The leader died at the scene. In his escape, he was sniped by an unknown shooter. The shooter is still at large.

Story 3
Central News Network
MONICA LEWINSKI INCOMPETANT
Who is Monica Lewinski? She's the worst intern in modern history. Last night, she was caught putting her mouth in someone else's business! It is likely she's been doing this for a long time. Is she fit to remain in the White House? Absolutely not.

Story 4
The New York Times
Letters to the Editor
There are people out there that want to get rid of the Electoral College. Who are they to suggest such a thing? Are they questioning the wisdom of our founding fathers? I'd like to let them know that the Electoral College system protects state's rights, and state's rights are the only thing keeping this country from becoming a dictatorship. You're either for the constitution or for dictatorship.
Signed,
Robert

Dead Players
InsertNameHere: Osama Bin Laden = Terrorist = Has a one-shot suicide kill on any player. If she kills a Godfather, she wins.
(died using her ability)
Nags: George Bush = Paranoid Mafia Cop = Mafia Cop; everyone that he investigates is a Bomb. Democrat at time of death.
(died via Terrorist)
Askbob: Bill Clinton = Miller = Townie, guilty when investigated
(died via DP1 election)
Belle: ACORN = Politician = Can steal one player's vote per day phase. Libertarian at time of death.
(died during NP1, drove off a bridge)
Cherymenthol: Monica Lewinski = Framing Role Blocker = Rolebloker; everybody she targets is investigated as guilty for the rest of the game.
(died during NP1, reputation destroyed)
Ragnar_Rahl: Ted Kennedy = Vigilante = Can kill one player per night. That player is also roleblocked the night killed.
(died during NP1, sniped by unknown killer)

States:
Old Mexico
1. Reasoning
2. JBlake
3. Askbob (formerly alex_hanson911)
4. BellumQuodPacis
5. mongoose
East Dakota
6. philosophical
7. Untitled_Entity
8. wonderwoman
9. Ghostwriter
10. comoncents
Hampshire
11. cult-logic
12. Koopin
13. Puck
14. mongeese*
15. Ournamestoolong
York
(16. Nags)
(17. Cherymenthol)
18. Kahvan
19. DontBeRacist
20.Clockwork
Holleywood
21. Immortal
(22. Ragnar_Rahl)
23. Oceanix
(24. Belle)
25. Nails
Alexandria
26. Rezzealaux
27. SportsGuru
28. Zetsubuo
(29. InsertNameHere)
(30. askbob)

Notes:
1. Players in parenthesis are dead and do not count for majority.
2. Players with astericks get two votes.
3. The Day Phase ends Friday, March 26th, at 7 PM CST.
in the blink of an eye you finally see the light
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3/21/2010 5:29:21 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 5:25:50 PM, mongeese wrote:
Can anybody summarize what has happened so far?

I just stopped reading after awhile. So many post happened in day phase 1
kfc
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3/21/2010 5:37:00 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
What was Ragnar_Rahl's allegiance?? That's what interests me most as his allegiance will affirm the code in my mind.
: At 3/24/2010 1:38:15 PM, Mirza wrote:
: But it's human nature. You're born inside your mother, so what's wrong with having some sexual activity with her?

: At 3/18/2010 6:48:05 AM, kelly224 wrote:
: read some credible history books, unplug from the matrix.

: At 3/21/2010 4:13:56 PM, Scott_Mann wrote:
: Stocks would not go up 30% over something that hasn't even happened yet.

: At 3/21/2010 6:06:10 PM, banker wrote:
: It apears you have a wierd grasp of english..! its only second to
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3/21/2010 5:37:40 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Are these correct affiliations?

THIRD PARTY
InsertNameHere: Osama Bin Laden = Terrorist
Belle: ACORN = Politician

VILLAGE
Ragnar_Rahl: Ted Kennedy = Vigilante
Askbob: Bill Clinton = Miller

MAFIA
Nags: George Bush = Paranoid Mafia Cop
Cherymenthol: Monica Lewinski = Framing Role Blocker
SportsGuru
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3/21/2010 5:37:55 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Going to try to find stuff in the story but

A WJM- how was George Bush a democrat before death

B Until I find something in the story that changes my mind otherwise:

Vote to lynch Reasoning

He is an inactive that admitted to mere bandwagon voting without bothering to read anything
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3/21/2010 5:43:25 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 5:37:40 PM, Nails wrote:
Are these correct affiliations?

THIRD PARTY
InsertNameHere: Osama Bin Laden = Terrorist
Belle: ACORN = Politician

Politician is generally a townie role
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3/21/2010 5:49:38 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
If we have nothing else to go on, lynch the inactive.

Lynch Reasoning
I'll get by with a little help from my friends.

Ournamestoolong

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Destroy talking ads!
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3/21/2010 5:52:44 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 5:37:40 PM, Nails wrote:
Are these correct affiliations?
Incorrect.

Affiliations:

Republican Mafia
1. Nags - Paranoid/Fake Cop

Third Party
1. InsertNameHere - Suicide Bomber - died killing Nags

Townies
1. Askbob - Miller- died via election

Libertarian Mafia
1. Belle - Politician - died unknown (drove off bridge)

Democratic Mafia
1. Nags - Fake/Paranoid Cop - died by InsertNameHere's Suicide bombing - Unsure how he became democratic mafia (assuming recruiters may activate their role any time)

Unknown Affiliations
1. Ragnar Rahl - Vigilante + Role Blocker - died unknown (unknown killer)
2. Cherymenthol - Framer + Role Blocker - died unknown (reputation destroyed (most likely attempted to frame someone she wasn't allowed to frame by restrictions in role PM)

Observations
1. The existence of a Republican mafia is incredibly likely
2. The existence of a cult is incredibly unlikely
3. There is most likely a third party serial killer
4. The code appears to be completely accurate if Ragnar is mafia
5. No clue as to how belle died
: At 3/24/2010 1:38:15 PM, Mirza wrote:
: But it's human nature. You're born inside your mother, so what's wrong with having some sexual activity with her?

: At 3/18/2010 6:48:05 AM, kelly224 wrote:
: read some credible history books, unplug from the matrix.

: At 3/21/2010 4:13:56 PM, Scott_Mann wrote:
: Stocks would not go up 30% over something that hasn't even happened yet.

: At 3/21/2010 6:06:10 PM, banker wrote:
: It apears you have a wierd grasp of english..! its only second to
collegekitchen7
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3/21/2010 5:54:47 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 5:43:25 PM, SportsGuru wrote:
Politician is generally a townie role

That's incorrect, Mafia Game 3 it was used as a mafia role

Also its clear that belle was mafia (read again)
: At 3/24/2010 1:38:15 PM, Mirza wrote:
: But it's human nature. You're born inside your mother, so what's wrong with having some sexual activity with her?

: At 3/18/2010 6:48:05 AM, kelly224 wrote:
: read some credible history books, unplug from the matrix.

: At 3/21/2010 4:13:56 PM, Scott_Mann wrote:
: Stocks would not go up 30% over something that hasn't even happened yet.

: At 3/21/2010 6:06:10 PM, banker wrote:
: It apears you have a wierd grasp of english..! its only second to
SportsGuru
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3/21/2010 5:55:00 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 5:18:24 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Game Changes
1. Askbob has replaced alex_hanson911.

Story 1
The New York Times
PRESIDENT IMPEACHED
Bill Clinton, elected yesterday, was determined incompetant and impeached. He will likely be remembered as the worst president to ever live.

A bit of hyperbole, basic summing up of yesterday

Story 2
The New York Times
ODD TURN OF EVENTS AT CHAPPAQUIDICK
Ted Kennedy, drunk, drove the leader of ACORN off a bridge last night. The leader died at the scene. In his escape, he was sniped by an unknown shooter. The shooter is still at large.

Nice reference to what Ted unfortunately did. It also seems that the mafia(or some 3rd party) still can kill

Story 3
Central News Network
MONICA LEWINSKI INCOMPETANT
Who is Monica Lewinski? She's the worst intern in modern history. Last night, she was caught putting her mouth in someone else's business! It is likely she's been doing this for a long time. Is she fit to remain in the White House? Absolutely not.

Not something the mod would obviously answer, but what exactly would happen in game for her to get "caught"? Based on history, one might guess she did it with Bill, but Bill died before the night even began. Also, this means somebody's been targeted by her.

Story 4
The New York Times
Letters to the Editor
There are people out there that want to get rid of the Electoral College. Who are they to suggest such a thing? Are they questioning the wisdom of our founding fathers? I'd like to let them know that the Electoral College system protects state's rights, and state's rights are the only thing keeping this country from becoming a dictatorship. You're either for the constitution or for dictatorship.
Signed,
Robert

Hooray for the mod protecting his own system.

Dead Players
InsertNameHere: Osama Bin Laden = Terrorist = Has a one-shot suicide kill on any player. If she kills a Godfather, she wins.
(died using her ability)
Nags: George Bush = Paranoid Mafia Cop = Mafia Cop; everyone that he investigates is a Bomb.

Democrat at time of death.

as I asked, is this correct?

Will report anything else I find.
Ragnar_Rahl
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3/21/2010 5:56:05 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Sigh American Politics Mafia Role »
Between wjmelements and You
Monday, March 15, 2010 @ 11:50:18 AM
Posted by:
wjmelements
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wjmelements

You are Ted Kennedy, the vigilante. You win with the town. If you don't like someone during the night phase, you can accidentally drive them off a bridge. This will kill them, unless there is a doctor at the scene. You are innocent if investigated. If you are recruited, then your affiliation changes to that of the group that recruits you (unless you are already partisan) and you join the group's PM. You are not bulletproof.
It came to be at its height. It was commanded to command. It was a capital before its first stone was laid. It was a monument to the spirit of man.
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3/21/2010 5:57:34 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 5:49:38 PM, ournamestoolong wrote:
If we have nothing else to go on, lynch the inactive.

Lynch Reasoning

Have you failed to read anything? It's quite clear that we have a lot to go on.

With belle being mafia and being partisan and Ragnar being unknown its to our best guess to assume that Clockwork is definitely mafia.

1. He has a partisan name
2. His confirmation (belle) was mafia and most likely was on his team thus saving him from being elected yesterday
3. The code follows that he is mafia.

VOTE CLOCKWORK
: At 3/24/2010 1:38:15 PM, Mirza wrote:
: But it's human nature. You're born inside your mother, so what's wrong with having some sexual activity with her?

: At 3/18/2010 6:48:05 AM, kelly224 wrote:
: read some credible history books, unplug from the matrix.

: At 3/21/2010 4:13:56 PM, Scott_Mann wrote:
: Stocks would not go up 30% over something that hasn't even happened yet.

: At 3/21/2010 6:06:10 PM, banker wrote:
: It apears you have a wierd grasp of english..! its only second to
collegekitchen7
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3/21/2010 6:00:20 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 5:56:05 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
Sigh American Politics Mafia Role »
Between wjmelements and You
Monday, March 15, 2010 @ 11:50:18 AM
Posted by:
wjmelements
wjmelements
16-year old male in Spring, Texas, United States.
Debates: 101
Wins: 77.55%
Percentile: 99th
Ideology: Libertarian
Party: Undecided
Online: 32 Minutes Ago
wjmelements

You are Ted Kennedy, the vigilante. You win with the town. If you don't like someone during the night phase, you can accidentally drive them off a bridge. This will kill them, unless there is a doctor at the scene. You are innocent if investigated. If you are recruited, then your affiliation changes to that of the group that recruits you (unless you are already partisan) and you join the group's PM. You are not bulletproof.

Welp at least we know Ragnar was townie which defeats the whole code. This is going to be useful so we won't lynch a townie. However we're most likely going to get pegged by the mod now unless he just accidentally forgot his affiliation (hoping this is the case)
: At 3/24/2010 1:38:15 PM, Mirza wrote:
: But it's human nature. You're born inside your mother, so what's wrong with having some sexual activity with her?

: At 3/18/2010 6:48:05 AM, kelly224 wrote:
: read some credible history books, unplug from the matrix.

: At 3/21/2010 4:13:56 PM, Scott_Mann wrote:
: Stocks would not go up 30% over something that hasn't even happened yet.

: At 3/21/2010 6:06:10 PM, banker wrote:
: It apears you have a wierd grasp of english..! its only second to
Ragnar_Rahl
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3/21/2010 6:01:26 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Pegged?

Keep in mind there isn't a rule about this as far as I can tell and I checked.
It came to be at its height. It was commanded to command. It was a capital before its first stone was laid. It was a monument to the spirit of man.
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3/21/2010 6:02:05 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
And so this doesn't happen again, next time:
It came to be at its height. It was commanded to command. It was a capital before its first stone was laid. It was a monument to the spirit of man.
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3/21/2010 6:08:42 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 5:52:44 PM, collegekitchen7 wrote:
At 3/21/2010 5:37:40 PM, Nails wrote:
Are these correct affiliations?
Incorrect.

Affiliations:

Republican Mafia
1. Nags - Paranoid/Fake Cop

Third Party
1. InsertNameHere - Suicide Bomber - died killing Nags

Townies
1. Askbob - Miller- died via election

Libertarian Mafia
1. Belle - Politician - died unknown (drove off bridge)

Democratic Mafia
1. Nags - Fake/Paranoid Cop - died by InsertNameHere's Suicide bombing - Unsure how he became democratic mafia (assuming recruiters may activate their role any time)

You mean Republican mafia; the report last day phase said Republican mafia cop; so as a far as conversion, I think it was just a typo by wjm

Unknown Affiliations
1. Ragnar Rahl - Vigilante + Role Blocker - died unknown (unknown killer)
2. Cherymenthol - Framer + Role Blocker - died unknown (reputation destroyed (most likely attempted to frame someone she wasn't allowed to frame by restrictions in role PM)

Observations
1. The existence of a Republican mafia is incredibly likely

confirmed by yesterday's death report

2. The existence of a cult is incredibly unlikely
3. There is most likely a third party serial killer
4. The code appears to be completely accurate if Ragnar is mafia
5. No clue as to how belle died

killed by vigilante Ragner
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3/21/2010 6:09:16 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 5:57:34 PM, collegekitchen7 wrote:
At 3/21/2010 5:49:38 PM, ournamestoolong wrote:
If we have nothing else to go on, lynch the inactive.

Lynch Reasoning

Have you failed to read anything? It's quite clear that we have a lot to go on.

With belle being mafia and being partisan and Ragnar being unknown its to our best guess to assume that Clockwork is definitely mafia.

1. He has a partisan name
2. His confirmation (belle) was mafia and most likely was on his team thus saving him from being elected yesterday
3. The code follows that he is mafia.

Doesn't actually. :P You are ignoring the "at time of death" and recruits are resolved before kills in the night phase.
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3/21/2010 6:11:13 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 6:09:16 PM, Puck wrote:
Doesn't actually. :P You are ignoring the "at time of death" and recruits are resolved before kills in the night phase.

lol yup you're right, my bad on this one.

This recruiting thing just screws up any chance we have at determining guilt from past days.
: At 3/24/2010 1:38:15 PM, Mirza wrote:
: But it's human nature. You're born inside your mother, so what's wrong with having some sexual activity with her?

: At 3/18/2010 6:48:05 AM, kelly224 wrote:
: read some credible history books, unplug from the matrix.

: At 3/21/2010 4:13:56 PM, Scott_Mann wrote:
: Stocks would not go up 30% over something that hasn't even happened yet.

: At 3/21/2010 6:06:10 PM, banker wrote:
: It apears you have a wierd grasp of english..! its only second to
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3/21/2010 6:12:37 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 6:09:49 PM, SportsGuru wrote:
WJM: can we please have the affiliation of Monica Lewinski?

I also wouldn't mind a confirmation of Ragnar, also props to Ragnar for finding a loophole and exploiting it, instead of asking about the rules DP1 I should have just posted my screenshotted pm.
: At 3/24/2010 1:38:15 PM, Mirza wrote:
: But it's human nature. You're born inside your mother, so what's wrong with having some sexual activity with her?

: At 3/18/2010 6:48:05 AM, kelly224 wrote:
: read some credible history books, unplug from the matrix.

: At 3/21/2010 4:13:56 PM, Scott_Mann wrote:
: Stocks would not go up 30% over something that hasn't even happened yet.

: At 3/21/2010 6:06:10 PM, banker wrote:
: It apears you have a wierd grasp of english..! its only second to
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3/21/2010 6:13:54 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Also, there is a severe lack of mention of cop investigation. Granted its not a kill, but they are usually mentioned in the story (ex Lucario in SSBB mafia)
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3/21/2010 6:17:05 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 6:12:37 PM, collegekitchen7 wrote:
At 3/21/2010 6:09:49 PM, SportsGuru wrote:
WJM: can we please have the affiliation of Monica Lewinski?

I also wouldn't mind a confirmation of Ragnar, also props to Ragnar for finding a loophole and exploiting it, instead of asking about the rules DP1 I should have just posted my screenshotted pm.

Speaking of the rules, I just read rule 1 which states all questions must be in the character pm, or they be ignored. Sigh, moving questions now.
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3/21/2010 6:22:59 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 6:13:54 PM, SportsGuru wrote:
Also, there is a severe lack of mention of cop investigation. Granted its not a kill, but they are usually mentioned in the story (ex Lucario in SSBB mafia)

Don't look to SSBM as a standard. It's not.
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
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3/21/2010 6:24:29 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/21/2010 5:18:24 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Game Changes
1. Askbob has replaced alex_hanson911.

Story 1
The New York Times
PRESIDENT IMPEACHED
Bill Clinton, elected yesterday, was determined incompetant and impeached. He will likely be remembered as the worst president to ever live.

Me being impeached (aka elected to be lynched)

Story 2
The New York Times
ODD TURN OF EVENTS AT CHAPPAQUIDICK
Ted Kennedy, drunk, drove the leader of ACORN off a bridge last night. The leader died at the scene. In his escape, he was sniped by an unknown shooter. The shooter is still at large.

"The term "Chappaquiddick incident" refers to the circumstances surrounding the death of Mary Jo Kopechne, whose body was discovered underwater inside an automobile belonging to Senator Edward "Ted" Kennedy. The body and the car were found in a tidal channel on Chappaquiddick Island, Massachusetts, on the morning of July 19, 1969. After the discovery, Kennedy gave a statement to police saying that on the previous night Kopechne was his passenger when he took a wrong turn and accidentally drove his car off a bridge into the water. After pleading guilty to a charge of leaving the scene of an accident after causing injury, he received a suspended sentence. The incident became a national scandal, and may have influenced Kennedy's decision not to run in the 1972 presidential election."

The following leads me to assume that Ragnar(kennedy) killed belle(ACORN) last night with his vigilante role power.

Story 3
Central News Network
MONICA LEWINSKI INCOMPETANT
Who is Monica Lewinski? She's the worst intern in modern history. Last night, she was caught putting her mouth in someone else's business! It is likely she's been doing this for a long time. Is she fit to remain in the White House? Absolutely not.

"was caught putting her mouth in someone else's business"
Indicative that she roleblocked someone who she couldn't roleblock and died due to a role condition.

Story 4
The New York Times
Letters to the Editor
There are people out there that want to get rid of the Electoral College. Who are they to suggest such a thing? Are they questioning the wisdom of our founding fathers? I'd like to let them know that the Electoral College system protects state's rights, and state's rights are the only thing keeping this country from becoming a dictatorship. You're either for the constitution or for dictatorship.
Signed,
Robert

Dunno the significance of this
: At 3/24/2010 1:38:15 PM, Mirza wrote:
: But it's human nature. You're born inside your mother, so what's wrong with having some sexual activity with her?

: At 3/18/2010 6:48:05 AM, kelly224 wrote:
: read some credible history books, unplug from the matrix.

: At 3/21/2010 4:13:56 PM, Scott_Mann wrote:
: Stocks would not go up 30% over something that hasn't even happened yet.

: At 3/21/2010 6:06:10 PM, banker wrote:
: It apears you have a wierd grasp of english..! its only second to
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3/21/2010 6:27:37 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
The following leads me to assume that Ragnar(kennedy) killed belle(ACORN) last night with his vigilante role power.
Absolutely correct.
It came to be at its height. It was commanded to command. It was a capital before its first stone was laid. It was a monument to the spirit of man.
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3/21/2010 6:33:45 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
R_R anything else you can tell us before wjm realizes dead people talking is completly legal

in fact

ALL DEAD PEOPLE: PLEASE TELL US TOWNIES ANY INFORMATION WE CAN USE
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3/21/2010 6:34:08 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I am not sure of any role conditions that I had, none were mentioned in my PM. So I am unsure about my death, I will clarify once WJM tells me more.