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BigMac
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5/12/2010 6:53:22 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
why don't British/UK/Irish spellings of words in english often exchange a Z for an S?

like in:
Orginization (orginisation)
Globalization (globalisation)
etc.
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5/12/2010 6:56:12 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I'm fairly certain it's because "Z" isn't a letter in the British alphabet. It's a fairly useless one anyway, just like "C."
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5/12/2010 6:59:58 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/12/2010 6:53:22 PM, BigMac wrote:
why don't British/UK/Irish spellings of words in english often exchange a Z for an S?

like in:
Orginization (orginisation)
Globalization (globalisation)
etc.

personally, i don't do it to rebel against americans who have twisted our culture enough with you're media.
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5/12/2010 7:00:17 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/12/2010 6:59:58 PM, badger wrote:
At 5/12/2010 6:53:22 PM, BigMac wrote:
why don't British/UK/Irish spellings of words in english often exchange a Z for an S?

like in:
Orginization (orginisation)
Globalization (globalisation)
etc.

personally, i don't do it to rebel against americans who have twisted our culture enough with you're media.

no i'm joking.
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5/12/2010 7:02:01 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/12/2010 6:56:12 PM, Korashk wrote:
I'm fairly certain it's because "Z" isn't a letter in the British alphabet. It's a fairly useless one anyway, just like "C."

"c" is very common.
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Korashk
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5/12/2010 7:04:18 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/12/2010 7:00:00 PM, BigMac wrote:
is Zebra spelled Sebra? didnt think so.

All of my information is from hearsay by the way. Zebra is a noun, and therefore it uses the "Z" because, well I couldn't tell you. I think it's like how some nouns use the letter æ.
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5/12/2010 7:06:58 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/12/2010 7:02:01 PM, badger wrote:
At 5/12/2010 6:56:12 PM, Korashk wrote:
I'm fairly certain it's because "Z" isn't a letter in the British alphabet. It's a fairly useless one anyway, just like "C."

"c" is very common.

And...?
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5/12/2010 7:12:31 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/12/2010 7:06:58 PM, Korashk wrote:
At 5/12/2010 7:02:01 PM, badger wrote:
At 5/12/2010 6:56:12 PM, Korashk wrote:
I'm fairly certain it's because "Z" isn't a letter in the British alphabet. It's a fairly useless one anyway, just like "C."

"c" is very common.

And...?

meaning it's used a lot.
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5/12/2010 7:12:59 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/12/2010 7:12:31 PM, badger wrote:
At 5/12/2010 7:06:58 PM, Korashk wrote:
At 5/12/2010 7:02:01 PM, badger wrote:
At 5/12/2010 6:56:12 PM, Korashk wrote:
I'm fairly certain it's because "Z" isn't a letter in the British alphabet. It's a fairly useless one anyway, just like "C."

"c" is very common.

And...?

meaning it's used a lot.

not there though.
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5/12/2010 7:13:43 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/12/2010 7:12:59 PM, badger wrote:
At 5/12/2010 7:12:31 PM, badger wrote:
At 5/12/2010 7:06:58 PM, Korashk wrote:
At 5/12/2010 7:02:01 PM, badger wrote:
At 5/12/2010 6:56:12 PM, Korashk wrote:
I'm fairly certain it's because "Z" isn't a letter in the British alphabet. It's a fairly useless one anyway, just like "C."

"c" is very common.

And...?

meaning it's used a lot.

not there though.

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Korashk
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5/12/2010 7:24:14 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/12/2010 7:13:43 PM, badger wrote:
At 5/12/2010 7:12:59 PM, badger wrote:
At 5/12/2010 7:12:31 PM, badger wrote:
At 5/12/2010 7:06:58 PM, Korashk wrote:
At 5/12/2010 7:02:01 PM, badger wrote:
At 5/12/2010 6:56:12 PM, Korashk wrote:
I'm fairly certain it's because "Z" isn't a letter in the British alphabet. It's a fairly useless one anyway, just like "C."

"c" is very common.

And...?

meaning it's used a lot.

not there though.

cabbage

Kabbage, though like zebra cabbage is a noun so I don't think that replacing the letter is the correct thing to do.
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5/12/2010 9:13:22 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/12/2010 7:12:31 PM, badger wrote:
At 5/12/2010 7:06:58 PM, Korashk wrote:
At 5/12/2010 7:02:01 PM, badger wrote:
At 5/12/2010 6:56:12 PM, Korashk wrote:
I'm fairly certain it's because "Z" isn't a letter in the British alphabet. It's a fairly useless one anyway, just like "C."

"c" is very common.

And...?

meaning it's used a lot.
That doesn't mean it's functional. It's merely custom.
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5/12/2010 9:34:53 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/12/2010 6:53:22 PM, BigMac wrote:
why don't British/UK/Irish spellings of words in english often exchange a Z for an S?

like in:
Orginization (orginisation)
Globalization (globalisation)
etc.

I think you mean, why did Americanisation of words change s to z. :P
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5/12/2010 9:57:59 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/12/2010 9:34:53 PM, Puck wrote:
At 5/12/2010 6:53:22 PM, BigMac wrote:
why don't British/UK/Irish spellings of words in english often exchange a Z for an S?

like in:
Orginization (orginisation)
Globalization (globalisation)
etc.

I think you mean, why did Americanisation of words change s to z. :P

because we don't pussyfoot around... our phoneme is VOICED b1tches. iow: s and z are the same sound as far as articulators go, but when you make a z the vocal cords are engaged. not suuuuure but i think british people tend to make an s sound and americans a z sound. *i* make a z sound anyways. try pronouncing them... doesn't it make more SENSE to voice the sound between vowels like that? the brits and aussies are just too damn stubborn to see reason....
evidently i only come to ddo to avoid doing homework...
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5/12/2010 10:00:48 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/12/2010 9:57:59 PM, belle wrote:
At 5/12/2010 9:34:53 PM, Puck wrote:
At 5/12/2010 6:53:22 PM, BigMac wrote:
why don't British/UK/Irish spellings of words in english often exchange a Z for an S?

like in:
Orginization (orginisation)
Globalization (globalisation)
etc.

I think you mean, why did Americanisation of words change s to z. :P

because we don't pussyfoot around... our phoneme is VOICED b1tches. iow: s and z are the same sound as far as articulators go, but when you make a z the vocal cords are engaged. not suuuuure but i think british people tend to make an s sound and americans a z sound. *i* make a z sound anyways. try pronouncing them... doesn't it make more SENSE to voice the sound between vowels like that? the brits and aussies are just too damn stubborn to see reason....

Ah I see. You lack the sophistication to form the words properly. Good to know!
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5/12/2010 10:03:27 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/12/2010 10:00:48 PM, Puck wrote:
Ah I see. You lack the sophistication to form the words properly. Good to know!

naaaaaw, we just don't see the point in torturing ourselves for the sake of meaningless traditions :-D
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5/12/2010 10:04:26 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/12/2010 10:03:27 PM, belle wrote:
At 5/12/2010 10:00:48 PM, Puck wrote:
Ah I see. You lack the sophistication to form the words properly. Good to know!

naaaaaw, we just don't see the point in torturing ourselves for the sake of meaningless traditions :-D

I think that is under British in the dictionary.
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5/13/2010 6:37:04 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
i'm american but I often accidentally use the British spelling of things like "colour" and others...
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5/13/2010 9:45:45 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/12/2010 6:56:12 PM, Korashk wrote:
I'm fairly certain it's because "Z" isn't a letter in the British alphabet. It's a fairly useless one anyway, just like "C."

Z is in the British English alphabet but it is pronounced "zed" not "zee".

So the band ZZ Top is known as "Zed Zed Top" over here!
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5/13/2010 9:50:49 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/13/2010 9:45:45 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
At 5/12/2010 6:56:12 PM, Korashk wrote:
I'm fairly certain it's because "Z" isn't a letter in the British alphabet. It's a fairly useless one anyway, just like "C."

Z is in the British English alphabet but it is pronounced "zed" not "zee".

So the band ZZ Top is known as "Zed Zed Top" over here!
Noooo. That totally kills the name.
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5/13/2010 11:55:04 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
lol, Originally these words used 's' (E.g. Organization) but America for some reason changed it, probably because of he inherently low IQ levels.Same goes for colour.
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5/13/2010 1:37:39 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/13/2010 9:50:49 AM, DontBeRacist wrote:
At 5/13/2010 9:45:45 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
At 5/12/2010 6:56:12 PM, Korashk wrote:
I'm fairly certain it's because "Z" isn't a letter in the British alphabet. It's a fairly useless one anyway, just like "C."

Z is in the British English alphabet but it is pronounced "zed" not "zee".

So the band ZZ Top is known as "Zed Zed Top" over here!
Noooo. That totally kills the name.

ewwwwwwwwwwwwww. it doesss..
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