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JBlake
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6/13/2010 9:17:38 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Players
1. KRFournier
2. Ibap
3. wjmelements
4. LeafRod
5. SportsGuru
6. Hurstman
7. theLwerd
8. Comoncents
9. Nags
10. feverish
11. xxdarkxx
12. mongeese
13. Puck
14. belle
15.Alex
16. oceanix
17. Korashk
18. Innomen
19. BQP
20. BigMac
21. ccstate4peat

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Deceased

1. Vi Veri: Mafia Roleblocker -- Lynched on Day Phase 1
2. monoose: Mafia Regular -- Killed on Night Phase 1

Eleven (11) votes required for a lynch.
Xer
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6/13/2010 9:20:59 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Awesomeness. Well done.

I'm the Townie Cop, Roger Sherman. I investigated KRFournier last night. He turned up guilty.

Doctor, protect me tonight.

Lynch KRFournier.
wjmelements
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6/13/2010 9:24:40 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Trusting Nags, on the premise that mafia do not risk one of themselves for one townie.

VTL KRF.
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belle
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6/13/2010 9:30:25 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
agreed, with two mafia already down theres little reason not to trust nags at this point. plus i was already pretty suspicious of KRF from yesterday... so...

LYNCH KRF
evidently i only come to ddo to avoid doing homework...
Korashk
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6/13/2010 9:31:42 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Redonculus.

Lynch KRF
When large numbers of otherwise-law abiding people break specific laws en masse, it's usually a fault that lies with the law. - Unknown
wjmelements
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6/13/2010 9:37:30 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
By the way, if someone else actually has the cop role, they should come out:
- KRF would still be mafia (lynch today)
- There is a doctor to protect you
- We have tracker/watcher roles that can verify you over Nags
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wjmelements
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6/13/2010 9:41:47 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Also, Roger Sherman is definitely in this game (http://en.wikipedia.org..., he signed the Continental Association, the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation, and the Constitution), so even if Nags was lying, there should be someone to cc him.
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Xer
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6/13/2010 9:42:06 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/13/2010 9:37:30 PM, wjmelements wrote:
By the way, if someone else actually has the cop role, they should come out:

...

- KRF would still be mafia (lynch today)

Umm, no. Because if someone else was cop, then it would not be verified that KRF is still mafia.

- There is a doctor to protect you

Captain obvious to the rescue.

- We have tracker/watcher roles that can verify you over Nags

See above.

The tracker/watcher/vigilante should think about using their role on wjm tonight.
wjmelements
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6/13/2010 9:45:56 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/13/2010 9:42:06 PM, Nags wrote:
At 6/13/2010 9:37:30 PM, wjmelements wrote:
By the way, if someone else actually has the cop role, they should come out:

...

- KRF would still be mafia (lynch today)

Umm, no. Because if someone else was cop, then it would not be verified that KRF is still mafia.

Actually, if someone else was cop, then you'd be mafia, and because one mafia would not sacrifice himself for a townie, the only reason you'd be doing this would be to confirm yourself by sacrificing another.
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wjmelements
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6/13/2010 9:46:58 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/13/2010 9:42:06 PM, Nags wrote:
The tracker/watcher/vigilante should think about using their role on wjm tonight.

And what in there was so incriminating, Nags?
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Xer
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6/13/2010 9:47:57 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/13/2010 9:45:56 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Actually, if someone else was cop, then you'd be mafia, and because one mafia would not sacrifice himself for a townie, the only reason you'd be doing this would be to confirm yourself by sacrificing another.

Let me get this straight.

One mafia would not sacrifice himself for one townie.

Buttttttttt... one mafia would sacrifice another mafia for himself.

Makes complete sense.
Xer
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6/13/2010 9:48:20 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/13/2010 9:46:58 PM, wjmelements wrote:
At 6/13/2010 9:42:06 PM, Nags wrote:
The tracker/watcher/vigilante should think about using their role on wjm tonight.

And what in there was so incriminating, Nags?

KRF would still be mafia (lynch today)
comoncents
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6/13/2010 9:49:00 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/13/2010 9:45:56 PM, wjmelements wrote:
At 6/13/2010 9:42:06 PM, Nags wrote:
At 6/13/2010 9:37:30 PM, wjmelements wrote:
By the way, if someone else actually has the cop role, they should come out:

...

- KRF would still be mafia (lynch today)

Umm, no. Because if someone else was cop, then it would not be verified that KRF is still mafia.

Actually, if someone else was cop, then you'd be mafia, and because one mafia would not sacrifice himself for a townie, the only reason you'd be doing this would be to confirm yourself by sacrificing another.

Just chill out. Lets do this and we will see what happens. The key is to get this mafia member out. No fighting among ourselves. If there was another cop than they would speck up with out someone telling them what to do. It was good that you lad out the options but lets let this one ride out.
wjmelements
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6/13/2010 9:52:19 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/13/2010 9:47:57 PM, Nags wrote:
At 6/13/2010 9:45:56 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Actually, if someone else was cop, then you'd be mafia, and because one mafia would not sacrifice himself for a townie, the only reason you'd be doing this would be to confirm yourself by sacrificing another.

Let me get this straight.

One mafia would not sacrifice himself for one townie.

Buttttttttt... one mafia would sacrifice another mafia for himself.

Makes complete sense.

Their numbers are dwindling, yes. Because KRF was already on the chopping block, he's the best person to get rid of. Confirming a mafia as a townie is a crucial step for mafia victory. It has been done before, unlike mafia-for-townie trades.
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wjmelements
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6/13/2010 9:54:40 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/13/2010 9:48:20 PM, Nags wrote:
At 6/13/2010 9:46:58 PM, wjmelements wrote:
At 6/13/2010 9:42:06 PM, Nags wrote:
The tracker/watcher/vigilante should think about using their role on wjm tonight.

And what in there was so incriminating, Nags?

KRF would still be mafia (lynch today)

Nags, from the first page, I will quote myself: "mafia do not risk one of themselves for one townie." If you were mafia (although I doubt you are), then following this statement, there's no way KRF would be innocent.
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Xer
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6/13/2010 9:55:12 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/13/2010 9:52:19 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Their numbers are dwindling, yes. Because KRF was already on the chopping block, he's the best person to get rid of. Confirming a mafia as a townie is a crucial step for mafia victory. It has been done before, unlike mafia-for-townie trades.

It has been done before, sure. But by no means was KRF on any chopping block. No one put him on any suspicious lists or anything. There would be no valid reason for the mafia to do this on the very first post of the second day phase.
belle
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6/13/2010 9:55:13 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/13/2010 9:47:57 PM, Nags wrote:
At 6/13/2010 9:45:56 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Actually, if someone else was cop, then you'd be mafia, and because one mafia would not sacrifice himself for a townie, the only reason you'd be doing this would be to confirm yourself by sacrificing another.

Let me get this straight.

One mafia would not sacrifice himself for one townie.

Buttttttttt... one mafia would sacrifice another mafia for himself.

Makes complete sense.

given how the game is going- it makes more sense than a mafia sacrificing himself for a townie.

and remember what comon did in L's game? yeeeeeeeeeah....

overall nags i think you are a bit jumpy.
evidently i only come to ddo to avoid doing homework...
wjmelements
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6/13/2010 9:55:59 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/13/2010 9:55:13 PM, belle wrote:
overall nags i think you are a bit jumpy.

Agree.
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Xer
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6/13/2010 9:56:17 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/13/2010 9:54:40 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Nags, from the first page, I will quote myself: "mafia do not risk one of themselves for one townie." If you were mafia (although I doubt you are), then following this statement, there's no way KRF would be innocent.

You assume self-omniscience. Thus, non-sequitur.
Xer
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6/13/2010 9:57:28 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/13/2010 9:55:13 PM, belle wrote:
overall nags i think you are a bit jumpy.

Seeing as how I haven't jumped at all... No.
wjmelements
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6/13/2010 9:58:32 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/13/2010 9:56:17 PM, Nags wrote:
At 6/13/2010 9:54:40 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Nags, from the first page, I will quote myself: "mafia do not risk one of themselves for one townie." If you were mafia (although I doubt you are), then following this statement, there's no way KRF would be innocent.

You assume self-omniscience. Thus, non-sequitur.

Oh, Nags. The statements are reliant on each other, so one is just as suspect as the other, but you only pick on one.
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