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brian_eggleston
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6/17/2010 11:22:10 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
I'm in the travel game and was looking at an approved North Korean tour operator's website with a view to doing business with them.

The thing that I thought might interest the Americans amongst you was the language page in their travel advice section.

There are only 18 useful words and phrases listed and in addition to the usual "how are you?" and "I wish you good health" visitors are apparently expected to learn how to say "Long live the Juche idea!" and "US imperialism is the number one target in the struggle of the world's people".

http://www.koryogroup.com...

Please don't think ill of me for exploring the possibility of sending tourists to North Korea, by the way.

I got into this business not to send people to all-inclusive hotels in Spain or Florida, but to send people to remote, unexplored places where the culture, architecture, landscape, food and language would be different from anything they had experienced before and I was thinking a side trip to North Korea could be a possible add-on to my Silk Road Expeditions product (overland in 4x4s from Istanbul to Xi'an in China).
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Mirza
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6/17/2010 11:24:16 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/17/2010 11:22:10 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
I'm in the travel game and was looking at an approved North Korean tour operator's website with a view to doing business with them.

The thing that I thought might interest the Americans amongst you was the language page in their travel advice section.

There are only 18 useful words and phrases listed and in addition to the usual "how are you?" and "I wish you good health" visitors are apparently expected to learn how to say "Long live the Juche idea!" and "US imperialism is the number one target in the struggle of the world's people".

http://www.koryogroup.com...

Please don't think ill of me for exploring the possibility of sending tourists to North Korea, by the way.

I got into this business not to send people to all-inclusive hotels in Spain or Florida, but to send people to remote, unexplored places where the culture, architecture, landscape, food and language would be different from anything they had experienced before and I was thinking a side trip to North Korea could be a possible add-on to my Silk Road Expeditions product (overland in 4x4s from Istanbul to Xi'an in China).
There are strict rules for visiting North Korea. And if anything, it can be stricter with the tensions over there.
brian_eggleston
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6/17/2010 11:26:52 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
The rules are strict:

"Please be aware that whilst we do the utmost for our tourists you are under very strict regulations as to what you can and cannot do and this is not negotiable. For example; you are not free to wander around on your own, there are photographic restrictions and video cameras are generally prohibited. The main problem is with journalists who have tried to enter the DPRK with us but without informing us of their status. This has led to two serious instances which has got our guides into trouble. WE CANNOT TAKE JOURNALISTS INTO THE DPRK. We therefore ask all journalists to notify us of their position so we can suggest other alternatives.

It is therefore only advisable visiting the DPRK if you can tolerate the following points:

1) In the DPRK you will be under close scrutiny from the guides and security. Use of cameras causes the majority of problems. You can only take a photograph of what the guides allow. The public are obliged to report all photography. Taking photos of soldiers, at check points, poverty, sneaked photos and close ups of people without their express permission will cause serious problems. Photography when being driven around is also restricted. Even what we would interpret as 'day to day' harmless scenes may cause problems. It is too easy to get carried away and think that it is not causing offence or would not put the guides in danger. This is not the case and therefore we ask our tourists to take a very responsible attitude even though it may mean missing the photographic opportunity. If the group gets the confidence of the guides you will have amazing opportunities for photography and you will miss out on very little. DPRK regulations state that you cannot take a lens over 150 mm into the country.

2) Leaving the hotel without the guides or the guides' express permission is not possible. If you are feeling the need for 'a breath of air' then a casual stroll along the river is possible but only if accompanied with a guide. It is possible to stroll in the grounds of the hotel but please ask the guide and do not take your camera.

3) We are 'invited' to the DPRK and therefore we ask our tourists to respect the Koreans and their vision of the Great Leader - this involves bowing at the 20 metre statue on Mansudae and on various other occasions. Chewing gum, eating sweets and wearing scruffy clothing in places of Korean national importance (such as Mansudae statue to Kim Il Sung, the Friendship Exhibition and Manyongdae birthplace of Kim Il Sung) will offend guides.

In all these instances it is the guides that get into trouble and not you. If you are happy just to be taken around the 'system' with all the diatribe and trimmings, then you will have the most amazing experience. If any of the above poses a problem it is advisable not to visit the DPRK as we have too many experiences of seeing guides put in serious trouble by tourists who are not aware of their actions."
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Mirza
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6/17/2010 11:31:29 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/17/2010 11:26:52 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
3) We are 'invited' to the DPRK and therefore we ask our tourists to respect the Koreans and their vision of the Great Leader - this involves bowing at the 20 metre statue on Mansudae and on various other occasions.
Never!

Everything else is fine. I would be very interested in visiting the country one day.
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6/17/2010 11:33:45 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Bloody eck!
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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6/17/2010 11:35:12 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/17/2010 11:31:29 AM, Mirza wrote:
At 6/17/2010 11:26:52 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
3) We are 'invited' to the DPRK and therefore we ask our tourists to respect the Koreans and their vision of the Great Leader - this involves bowing at the 20 metre statue on Mansudae and on various other occasions.
Never!

Everything else is fine. I would be very interested in visiting the country one day.

Going suicide bombing for a good cause, eh?
Mirza
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6/17/2010 11:49:06 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
North Korea is probably the most paranoid country ever.

I can imagine a column of tanks firing at you if you go and catch some air without a guide! Or a nuclear bomb if you refuse to bow to... An old, nonsensical communist statue.
I-am-a-panda
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6/17/2010 11:57:28 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/17/2010 11:49:06 AM, Mirza wrote:
North Korea is probably the most paranoid country ever.

I can imagine a column of tanks firing at you if you go and catch some air without a guide! Or a nuclear bomb if you refuse to bow to... An old, nonsensical communist statue.

Errr..the guards get punished for your misdeeds, kind of like "If you don't do what we say we will rape this monkey!"
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6/17/2010 12:42:52 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/17/2010 11:57:28 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 6/17/2010 11:49:06 AM, Mirza wrote:
North Korea is probably the most paranoid country ever.

I can imagine a column of tanks firing at you if you go and catch some air without a guide! Or a nuclear bomb if you refuse to bow to... An old, nonsensical communist statue.

Errr..the guards get punished for your misdeeds, kind of like "If you don't do what we say we will rape this monkey!"

odd.
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6/17/2010 1:02:48 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I have always wanted to visit North Korea just to see what it's like. I have always been curious. Too bad it's nearly impossible to enter the country.