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STAWA DP5: Peace Sells

I-am-a-panda
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8/14/2010 4:15:08 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Rules: http://www.debate.org...
Alive Players:

3. AlexRae
4. Koopin
6. AlexH
10. JBlake
13. xxdarkxx
16. Nags2 (Replaced Sportsguru)
19. KorashK
21. tvellalott
23. Ibap
24. badger2 (Replaced Ninja_tru)
25. Mongoose2 (Replaced Mr_Jack_Nickson)

Dead Players:

Badger - Saulus (Somalia) - Lynched DP1

Puck - Skitzo (Pakistan) - Killed NP1 by Mafia

Mongoose - Doctor (Germany) - Killed NP1 by Serial Killer

Zetsubou - Mason (Brazil) - Killed NP1 by the Serial killer

Vi_veri - Mafia Silencer (Iran) - Lynched Day Phase 2

theLwerd - Mason Recruiter (India) - Poisoned Night phase 1 and died during Night phase 2

Nags - Jack Of All Trades (Britain) - Killed by Mafia Night Phase 2

Octo-Sac - Mafia Goon (Libya) - Killed by Serial Killer Night Phase 2

Wjmelements - Serial Killer (Russia) - Killed during Night Phase 2 by the Jack of All Trades and Vigilante

Feverish - Mafia Poisoner (Venezuela) - Lynched during Day Phase 3

Mongeese - Cop (France) - Killed by Mafia Night Phase 3

InsertNameHere - Miller (Iraq) - Lynched during Day phase 4

Belle - South korea (Bomb) - Killed during night phase 4 by Mafia

Leafrod - Mafia Goon (Cuba) - Killed by Bomb.

Story:

CUBAN-SINO INVASION OF SOUTH KOREA ENDS IN FAILURE:

A joint Chinese and Cuban invasion of South Korea has ended in failure as most invading forces were killed by nuclear weapons. South Korea launched retaliatory missile attacks and was helped by the international community, to turn Cuba into a Holocaust. South Korea, however, was overrun by remaining Chinese and north Korean forces.

US HOLDS SECRET MEETINGS WITH NORTH KOREA:

The US has recently entered talks with North Korea, with the dictatorship giving concessions for lessened US military activity worldwide. his has marked a new era in Korean-American relations.

IRAQ INVADED......AGAIN

On the sis of new found evidence suggesting Iraq does have WMDs, found in a cabinet containing 9/11 conspiracy theories and transcripts between government officials and illuminati figures, the intentional community again condemned Iraq, and again yielded no results other than some p*ssed of Kurds and Arabs.

Vote Count:

Tvellalott: 1/6 Lynches Required (AlexRAe)
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8/14/2010 4:31:25 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Reading through the day phases [while dead], it has been blatantly obvious to me that JBlake is mafia.

Lynch JBlake.
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8/14/2010 4:35:10 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Vote Count:

Tvellalott: 1/6 Lynches Required (AlexRAe)

Jblake: 1/6 Lynched Required (Nags)
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mongoose
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8/14/2010 4:52:18 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I haven't been reading them, so I will do so now.
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
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8/14/2010 4:53:57 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
So I noticed my previous self wasn't being cooperative. Should I give information now? Role or character?
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
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8/14/2010 4:56:16 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
It would seem that the mafia roleblocker is North Korea, and they blocked the United States. In that case, the vigilante may as well reveal, as the mafia knows who they are and the town doesn't.
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
Korashk
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8/14/2010 5:04:21 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
That would be me. Second time my kill hasn't gone through.
When large numbers of otherwise-law abiding people break specific laws en masse, it's usually a fault that lies with the law. - Unknown
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8/14/2010 5:08:01 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/14/2010 5:04:21 PM, Korashk wrote:
That would be me. Second time my kill hasn't gone through.

WHY DID YOU KILL ME?
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
Korashk
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8/14/2010 5:10:22 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/14/2010 5:08:01 PM, mongoose wrote:
At 8/14/2010 5:04:21 PM, Korashk wrote:
That would be me. Second time my kill hasn't gone through.

WHY DID YOU KILL ME?

I thought you were giving badger too much credit in the first DP. This was odd.
When large numbers of otherwise-law abiding people break specific laws en masse, it's usually a fault that lies with the law. - Unknown
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8/14/2010 5:12:22 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/14/2010 5:10:22 PM, Korashk wrote:
At 8/14/2010 5:08:01 PM, mongoose wrote:
At 8/14/2010 5:04:21 PM, Korashk wrote:
That would be me. Second time my kill hasn't gone through.

WHY DID YOU KILL ME?

I thought you were giving badger too much credit in the first DP. This was odd.

wat?
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8/14/2010 5:25:18 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/14/2010 5:10:22 PM, Korashk wrote:
At 8/14/2010 5:08:01 PM, mongoose wrote:
At 8/14/2010 5:04:21 PM, Korashk wrote:
That would be me. Second time my kill hasn't gone through.

WHY DID YOU KILL ME?

I thought you were giving badger too much credit in the first DP. This was odd.

How so? I was voting to lynch him.
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
JBlake
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8/14/2010 7:25:52 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/14/2010 4:31:25 PM, Nags wrote:
Reading through the day phases [while dead], it has been blatantly obvious to me that JBlake is mafia.

Lynch JBlake.

What are you talking about? Please provide evidence before making wild accusations.
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8/14/2010 9:54:11 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/14/2010 7:25:52 PM, JBlake wrote:
What are you talking about? Please provide evidence before making wild accusations.

That was just a test. I wanted to see if anyone would bandwagon. I'm pretty sure you're town and I'm pretty sure I know your role.

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Most likely townie:
Nags -- Well... obviously, lol.
JBlake -- I investigated him as JOAT DP1. He turned up innocent. His posts are very townie like as well.
mongoose2 (Mr_Jack_Nickson) -- Feverish wanted to lynch him pretty bad early in DP3. Feverish, as we all know, turned up as mafia.
badger2 (Ninja_Tru)
Ibap

Not sure about, though probably townie:
Alex_Hanson

No clue:
tvellalott
Koopin


FoS:
xxdark, Korashk -- Did not vote to lynch Vi.
xxdarkxx -- Voted to lynch for Ninja when Vi was about to be lynched.
Korashk, feverish -- Pressured Mr.Jack (now mongoose2) early in DP3 for no apparent reason.
AlexRae -- Both Korashk and sac8 (dead mafia) completely and immediately bought her character claim, which wasn't convincing to say the least. See: http://www.debate.org...
AlexRae -- First one to vote to lynch for Insert on DP4 for no apparent reason.
Korashk, AlexRae -- Voted to lynch Insert.
Korashk, sac8 -- For some reason, they tended to quote each other just to agree with each other quite a bit on DP1. Also, they both pressured SportsG cooperatively in DP1.
Korashk -- First off, he sounds like a complete idiot this current day phase as well as above. I think it's pretty obvious that North Korea and the US have just joined forces. I wouldn't put it pass Panda for US to start as town vigilante-esque and then defect -- as Panda is not a big fan of US foreign policy. Also, he was on an hour ago and didn't feel like defending himself apparently.

Most likely mafioso (see above):
Korashk
xxdarkxx
AlexRae
Korashk
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8/14/2010 11:08:37 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Numbnuts, I'm the vigilante and couldn't vote Vi because the politician stole my vote.
When large numbers of otherwise-law abiding people break specific laws en masse, it's usually a fault that lies with the law. - Unknown
JBlake
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8/15/2010 1:20:51 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Unless/until someone comes out to CC KorashK, I think we can assume that he is innocent. If there is another Vigilante, he/she should come out.

The rest of your analysis seems plausible enough. It's a good place to start since we have nothing else to go on. I am drunk right now, so I'll have to read again tomorrow before actually casting a vote.
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8/15/2010 3:46:59 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
I'll rip your case against me apart piece by piece:

At 8/14/2010 9:54:11 PM, Nags wrote:
xxdark, Korashk -- Did not vote to lynch Vi.

Polotician stole my vote.

Korashk, feverish -- Pressured Mr.Jack (now mongoose2) early in DP3 for no apparent reason.

Since when do we need reasons to pressure noobs, which is what I did.

AlexRae -- Both Korashk and sac8 (dead mafia) completely and immediately bought her character claim, which wasn't convincing to say the least. See: http://www.debate.org...

You can't see Australia as a vanilla townie? Really?

Korashk, AlexRae -- Voted to lynch Insert.

So did about 7 other people. Which is why she's dead.

Korashk, sac8 -- For some reason, they tended to quote each other just to agree with each other quite a bit on DP1. Also, they both pressured SportsG cooperatively in DP1.

???

Korashk -- First off, he sounds like a complete idiot this current day phase as well as above. I think it's pretty obvious that North Korea and the US have just joined forces. I wouldn't put it pass Panda for US to start as town vigilante-esque and then defect -- as Panda is not a big fan of US foreign policy. Also, he was on an hour ago and didn't feel like defending himself apparently.

As was previously stated, NK is probably the role-blocker.
When large numbers of otherwise-law abiding people break specific laws en masse, it's usually a fault that lies with the law. - Unknown
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8/15/2010 8:49:18 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
How many vanilla townies would we expect to be in this game?
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
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8/15/2010 8:49:46 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/15/2010 8:28:39 AM, badger wrote:
finished catching up.. i'd take korashk off nags' list and add sportsguru and jblake.

You realize he said he found JBlake innocent through investigation?
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
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8/15/2010 8:51:25 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
VTL ALEX RAE

Seems most suspicious.
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
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8/15/2010 8:53:43 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/15/2010 8:49:46 AM, mongoose wrote:
At 8/15/2010 8:28:39 AM, badger wrote:
finished catching up.. i'd take korashk off nags' list and add sportsguru and jblake.

You realize he said he found JBlake innocent through investigation?

nags said so? should've read his list.
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8/15/2010 9:00:37 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/15/2010 8:51:25 AM, mongoose wrote:
VTL ALEX RAE

Seems most suspicious.

I've already claimed. I'm a townie . Plus I'm too new to mafia to lie about my role.
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8/15/2010 9:02:22 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/15/2010 9:00:40 AM, badger wrote:
anyone else think it's time for everyone to claim?

I agree. If you haven't claimed yet you should.
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8/15/2010 9:03:33 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Vote Count:

Tvellalott: 1/6 Lynches Required (AlexRae)

Jblake: 1/6 Lynched Required (Nags)

AlexRae:
1/6 Lynches Required (Mongoose)
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8/15/2010 9:50:56 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/15/2010 9:00:37 AM, AlexRae wrote:
At 8/15/2010 8:51:25 AM, mongoose wrote:
VTL ALEX RAE

Seems most suspicious.

I've already claimed. I'm a townie . Plus I'm too new to mafia to lie about my role.

I don't really buy this argument. Why don't you try refuting the evidence provided by Nags?
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8/15/2010 10:12:49 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/15/2010 9:50:56 AM, JBlake wrote:
At 8/15/2010 9:00:37 AM, AlexRae wrote:
At 8/15/2010 8:51:25 AM, mongoose wrote:
VTL ALEX RAE

Seems most suspicious.

I've already claimed. I'm a townie . Plus I'm too new to mafia to lie about my role.

I don't really buy this argument. Why don't you try refuting the evidence provided by Nags?

If you're new, your mafia buddies would tell you how to make up a role. It is not hard to make up a role.
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
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8/15/2010 12:23:34 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/15/2010 9:50:56 AM, JBlake wrote:
At 8/15/2010 9:00:37 AM, AlexRae wrote:
At 8/15/2010 8:51:25 AM, mongoose wrote:
VTL ALEX RAE

Seems most suspicious.

I've already claimed. I'm a townie . Plus I'm too new to mafia to lie about my role.

I don't really buy this argument. Why don't you try refuting the evidence provided by Nags?
As to the evidence, I'm not sure why they supported me. I am Australia and a vanilla townie. Stop wasting time and vtl someone else.