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Empires Mafia - Day Phase 2

Korashk
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10/19/2010 1:16:26 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
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Day Phase ends in ~48 hours, and as a reminder: It would behoove you all to stick to the spirit of the no c/p-ing PMs rule.

Deceased:
sac8 - You are Mongol Empire, the GODFATHER. Genghis Khan and his armies struck fear into the hearts off all whom they opposed. You come up innocent when investigated and have the final say when determining who the mafia kills. You win with the MAFIA.

lovelife - You are Xin Dynasty, [removed], and [removed] respectively. You three are the MASONS. Being three [removed] you feel loyalty to one another in the confusing situation that has arisen. In addition to sharing a PM with one-another you also have the collective power of the JACK OF ALL TRADES. Your powers are (all one-shot) COP, VIGILANTE, DOCTOR, and WATCHER. Since this is a collective role you may only use one power per Night Phase. You three win with the TOWN.

comoncents - You are Roman Empire, the CULT LEADER. In an effort to increase the loyalty of those you conquer, you developed and encouraged your citizenry to participate in an Imperial Cult. Each Night Phase you may recruit a member of the town to your cult. This cult can never be more than two members in size and you die in the event that you recruit a Mafioso. You win when the cult is equal in number to the rest of the living players.

Active Players:
01) tvellalott
02) Marauder
03) alex_hanson911
04) innomen
06) annhasle
07) mongoose
08) theLwerd
11) JBlake
12) xxdarkxx

Story is basically just that the empires are fighting each other. Woo Hoo.
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10/19/2010 1:23:27 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Pretty good night phase. However I am still confused about how lovelife died last day phase? I didn't think she had all the votes she needed.
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10/19/2010 1:40:45 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/19/2010 1:23:27 PM, xxdarkxx wrote:
Pretty good night phase. However I am still confused about how lovelife died last day phase? I didn't think she had all the votes she needed.

This.

Also, VOTE JBlake for pressure
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10/19/2010 1:44:40 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/19/2010 1:23:27 PM, xxdarkxx wrote:
Pretty good night phase. However I am still confused about how lovelife died last day phase? I didn't think she had all the votes she needed.

Yeah, i saw the last post in the day phase and was a little confused. But, yeah good night phase.
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10/19/2010 1:45:23 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/19/2010 1:40:45 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 10/19/2010 1:23:27 PM, xxdarkxx wrote:
Pretty good night phase. However I am still confused about how lovelife died last day phase? I didn't think she had all the votes she needed.

This.

Also, VOTE JBlake for pressure

ummmm no...

Jblake was pretty much confirmed by LL's role pm.
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10/19/2010 2:36:33 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Perhaps it was a mafia role that ended the day phase for a mafia kill instead, with no kill that night?
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
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10/19/2010 2:38:28 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At this point, I think the empires are either all Chinese from different eras, or all Asian. The former is more probable.

Comon probably died recruiting somebody. Who do you think he was trying to recruit?
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
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10/19/2010 3:12:47 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
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JBlake (1/5) [tv]
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10/19/2010 5:04:11 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/19/2010 2:38:28 PM, mongoose wrote:
At this point, I think the empires are either all Chinese from different eras, or all Asian. The former is more probable.

My empire is neither Chinese or Asian. I am on that continant though.
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10/19/2010 5:05:47 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/19/2010 1:45:23 PM, xxdarkxx wrote:
At 10/19/2010 1:40:45 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 10/19/2010 1:23:27 PM, xxdarkxx wrote:
Pretty good night phase. However I am still confused about how lovelife died last day phase? I didn't think she had all the votes she needed.

This.

Also, VOTE JBlake for pressure

ummmm no...

Jblake was pretty much confirmed by LL's role pm.

>_< - You're right, I forgot about that.
UNVOTE
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10/19/2010 5:42:18 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Vote to Lynch tvellalot for pressure.

I was roleblocked last night. tvellalot came right at me immediately. That is a scummy move that requires an answer.

The next night phase I will just have my other mason take the night action so that even if I am role blocked the action will go through.
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10/19/2010 6:23:18 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/19/2010 5:42:18 PM, JBlake wrote:
Vote to Lynch tvellalot for pressure.

I was roleblocked last night. tvellalot came right at me immediately. That is a scummy move that requires an answer.

I just picked you randomly. :/

Anyway, I don't really want to claim but if it is neccesary I will.
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10/19/2010 6:30:54 PM
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10/19/2010 6:35:38 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/19/2010 6:23:18 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 10/19/2010 5:42:18 PM, JBlake wrote:
Vote to Lynch tvellalot for pressure.

I was roleblocked last night. tvellalot came right at me immediately. That is a scummy move that requires an answer.

I just picked you randomly. :/

Anyway, I don't really want to claim but if it is neccesary I will.

I think you should claim.
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
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10/19/2010 6:40:45 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/19/2010 1:16:26 PM, Korashk wrote:
Deceased:
sac8 - You are Mongol Empire, the GODFATHER. Genghis Khan and his armies struck fear into the hearts off all whom they opposed. You come up innocent when investigated and have the final say when determining who the mafia kills. You win with the MAFIA.

I hope this doesn't count as talking but ":) I was right"

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10/19/2010 6:47:22 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I'm the Russian Empire
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10/19/2010 7:02:17 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/19/2010 6:47:22 PM, tvellalott wrote:
I'm the Russian Empire

Hm. I'm not sure if that would be mafia or not. It's really impossible to tell. I'm thinking roleclaim.
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
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10/19/2010 7:16:59 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/19/2010 7:02:17 PM, mongoose wrote:
At 10/19/2010 6:47:22 PM, tvellalott wrote:
I'm the Russian Empire

Hm. I'm not sure if that would be mafia or not. It's really impossible to tell. I'm thinking roleclaim.

Gah. This is why I didn't want to claim. I knew you guys would think I was a commie spy from hell. :P

I am a regular townie. To summorise why Korashk didn't give it a power-role, Russia is indeed a vast country, but nothing significant really happened during it's time as an empire.
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10/19/2010 8:01:09 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/19/2010 7:16:59 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 10/19/2010 7:02:17 PM, mongoose wrote:
At 10/19/2010 6:47:22 PM, tvellalott wrote:
I'm the Russian Empire

Hm. I'm not sure if that would be mafia or not. It's really impossible to tell. I'm thinking roleclaim.

Gah. This is why I didn't want to claim. I knew you guys would think I was a commie spy from hell. :P

I am a regular townie. To summorise why Korashk didn't give it a power-role, Russia is indeed a vast country, but nothing significant really happened during it's time as an empire.

That makes enough sense.
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
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10/19/2010 8:34:10 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
VTL Tvellalott for pressure

He's the most active in the thread by making most of the accusations before the rest of the players. Seems suspicious to me.
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10/19/2010 8:35:50 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/19/2010 8:34:10 PM, annhasle wrote:
VTL Tvellalott for pressure

He's the most active in the thread by making most of the accusations before the rest of the players. Seems suspicious to me.

>:O

OMGUS!!!

Actually, I haven't made any accusations and I've just character and role claimed to comply with the desires of other players, so :P
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10/19/2010 10:12:19 PM
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Vanilla claim in a game this size is suspect. You are not off the hook entirely, but for now I will Unvote. So that we can gather more information from other people.

Who is most suspicious to you, tvellalot?
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10/19/2010 10:16:28 PM
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10/19/2010 11:02:14 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/19/2010 10:12:19 PM, JBlake wrote:
Vanilla claim in a game this size is suspect. You are not off the hook entirely, but for now I will Unvote. So that we can gather more information from other people.

I'm well aware of how suspicious my claim is, which is why I didn't really want to claim. I'm happy to be tracker, watched, investigated or lie-detected (I win with the town.)

Who is most suspicious to you, tvellalot?

Let me get back to you on this one.
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10/20/2010 7:59:22 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/19/2010 7:16:59 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 10/19/2010 7:02:17 PM, mongoose wrote:
At 10/19/2010 6:47:22 PM, tvellalott wrote:
I'm the Russian Empire

Hm. I'm not sure if that would be mafia or not. It's really impossible to tell. I'm thinking roleclaim.

Gah. This is why I didn't want to claim. I knew you guys would think I was a commie spy from hell. :P

I am a regular townie. To summorise why Korashk didn't give it a power-role, Russia is indeed a vast country, but nothing significant really happened during it's time as an empire.

really, vanila? I would think Russia would have a role copier role or something based on Peter the Greats exploits in spying on Europe's modernized advances and trying to adopt them to his own nation. http://en.wikipedia.org...

considering Russia does actually have interesting history enough to give it a role power of some kind, the unlikeliness of plain vanilla towns in this game, and the fact that JBlake was role blocked and allegedly a 'random' target by tv I am suspicious enough to Vote lynch tvellalott unless someone might be willing to strengthen his vanilla claim and come out and claim vanilla also.
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10/20/2010 11:47:01 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
JBlake, as a history person please tell me how in any capacity a Russian Empire could EVER be vanilla.

Here's what I'm thinking -- We have 3 masons, which means we're over-powered (it seems that way). That obviously significantly decreases a townie's chance of being lynched. However I highly doubt an experienced mod would give the town that much of an advantage. One disadvantage is that we have a cult in addition to the mafia, and I'm thinking we possibly have another 3rd party. I'll be suspicious of any vanilla claim, especially a RUSSIAN one.

Also, because of the way Korashk structured it (3 masons including recruiter, JOAT with investigative abilities, and apparently JBlake's role is interchangeable) then I would not be surprised if there wasn't a cop in this game at all. I'm not sure we can investigate a vanilla claim. And, if we're wrong, we still have 2 other confirmed townies (JBlake + anonymous) and worst case scenario we lose a vanilla.

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10/20/2010 1:39:01 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I knew this was going to happen.
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10/20/2010 1:58:59 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
The alternative is continuing to pressure random people and risk having the doctor (etc.) reveal when we may as well have a very guilty party right here. Compared with losing a vanilla who claimed the Russian Empire, I think the choice is pretty obvious.

As a side note, there are 2 masons with a recruiter, so this can be used as an investigative ability. If the recruiter dies trying to recruit, the other mason will report it. When a new mason is recruited, it should be reported to the town so that we know at least 2 confirmed townies of the 3.
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10/20/2010 3:05:29 PM
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Okay. I'll keep my vote on Korashk. I was just thinking how I never really think of it as an empire so much. They lost to Japan.
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