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Christmas Mafia Day Phase 3

wamba
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12/21/2010 1:28:10 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
--Active Players--
1. wjmelements
2. mongoose
3. Innomen
4. TheLwerd
5. Zetsubou
6. Annhasle
7. sac8
8. Lovelife
9. JBlake
10. Korashk

Graveyard:

Cody - Lynched Dayphase 1 - Townie - Jacob Marley - Mafia Turner

Mongeese - Lynched Day Phase 2 - Mafia - The Grinch - Politician

Tvellalot - Killed During Night Phase 2 - Townie - Ralphie - Day Vig/Mafia killah

Role Notes:
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I want an Official Red Ryder Carbine-Action Two-Hundred-Shot Range Model Air Rifle!

You are Ralphie. You really want an official red ryder so you can kill your nemesis. Black Bart! If make it till christmas and santa picks you. You will receive one and will automatically destroy your longtime imaginary nemesis. If santa claus doesn't pick you i guess he figured you would just shoot your eye out if you had one anyway.

Scut Farkis is also being mean to you so you can have one chance at beating him up a day. Just send me the name during the day. If you are correct, you will beat him up.

Real Speak.

You are a townie who is very powerful. If you survive and are gifted a BB gun you will automatically kill Black Bart. Further you are allowed to target one player each day. If that player is Scut Farkas you will kill him.

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You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch
You really are a heel,
You're as cuddly as a cactus, you're as charming as an eel, Mr. Grinch,
You're a bad banana with a greasy black peel!

So you are the grinch and sort of like stealing christmas you can steal one vote a day and choose to do with it what you will. Your heart is two sizes to small. However if Cindy Loo Who visits you, it may grow three sizes that day. And you may have a change of heart and join the whos down in whoville.

If Cindy Loo Who targets you, you will become a townie the moment she does. Then you will win with the townies.

Plainspeak:

You are a politician turncoat mafia. If you are visited by Cindy Loo, you will immediately turn townie. I would keep that quiet from your friend as you will still have the ability to be in the same PM if you turn.
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SCROOOGE SCROOOOOOGE You are Jacob Marley. You wander the streets at night in your chains searching for your old accounting partner, Scrooge. Should you find him you will haunt him with three spirits. THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE TO SHOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU WOULD TARGET SCROOGE ON NIGHT PHASE 1. Night Phase 1 - Target SCROOGE, First ghost visits Night Phase 2 - Second Ghost Visits Night Phase 3 - Third Ghost visits. Day Phase 4 - SCROOGE becomes Townie. Plainspeak. You are a townie who can target scrooge at night. If successful in picking scrooge it will be 2 1/2 phases and then scrooge will become a townie. During the 2 1/2 phases he will remain mafia.

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Korashk
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12/21/2010 1:38:08 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
wjmelements
mongoose
Innomen
TheLwerd - Rudolph -
Zetsubou
Annhasle
sac8 - Grinch (Nope, Jester likely) - Miller
Lovelife
JBlake
Korashk - Cindy Loo Who

Townie:
Korashk

Very likely not mafia:
sac8

Probably not mafia:
theLwerd

Null:
Everybody else.
When large numbers of otherwise-law abiding people break specific laws en masse, it's usually a fault that lies with the law. - Unknown
tvellalott
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12/21/2010 2:15:57 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Gah. Avenge me town.
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lovelife
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12/21/2010 2:55:27 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/21/2010 2:15:57 AM, tvellalott wrote:
Gah. Avenge me town.

We will.
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JBlake
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12/21/2010 2:58:31 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I haven't had much time to follow the thread so far. What is going on with SAC8? He claimed grinch and/or miller? If that is so, then I would agree with the likely jester. If anyone has a night killing role they should use it on him.
Korashk
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12/21/2010 3:14:18 AM
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Why? Third party usually counts towards the town majority. I don't get killing off someone harmless just to get them gone.
When large numbers of otherwise-law abiding people break specific laws en masse, it's usually a fault that lies with the law. - Unknown
lovelife
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12/21/2010 3:16:20 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/21/2010 3:14:18 AM, Korashk wrote:
Why? Third party usually counts towards the town majority. I don't get killing off someone harmless just to get them gone.

This.
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lovelife
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12/21/2010 8:31:16 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/21/2010 8:10:54 PM, wamba wrote:
Continue discussion plox

Wow I forgot this was still in the DP.
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lovelife
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12/21/2010 8:32:47 PM
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At 12/21/2010 1:38:08 AM, Korashk wrote:
wjmelements
mongoose
Innomen
TheLwerd - Rudolph -
Zetsubou
Annhasle
sac8 - Grinch (Nope, Jester likely) - Miller
Lovelife
JBlake
Korashk - Cindy Loo Who

Townie:
Korashk

Very likely not mafia:
sac8

Probably not mafia:
theLwerd

Null:
Everybody else.

Okay just so something happens VTL Ann pressure. If someone has the ability to use the RNG (idk how) then feel free to use it and change the pressure.
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lovelife
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12/21/2010 8:33:09 PM
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At 12/21/2010 8:32:26 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Here. Not much to say, except that a vigilante should kill sac8.

Why?
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wjmelements
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12/21/2010 8:33:56 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/21/2010 8:33:09 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 12/21/2010 8:32:26 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Here. Not much to say, except that a vigilante should kill sac8.
Why?

Grinch claim; ergo jester.
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lovelife
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12/21/2010 8:37:20 PM
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At 12/21/2010 8:33:56 PM, wjmelements wrote:
At 12/21/2010 8:33:09 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 12/21/2010 8:32:26 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Here. Not much to say, except that a vigilante should kill sac8.
Why?

Grinch claim; ergo jester.

I don't think jester is necessarily harmful to the town. Jester just kind of does nothing, but maybe adds to overall town. We would be better off finding a real threat imo.
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Korashk
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12/21/2010 8:39:05 PM
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vtl ann
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mongoose
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12/21/2010 8:50:10 PM
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It would seem that both our doctor and our day vigilante are failures.
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
tvellalott
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12/21/2010 9:01:39 PM
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At 12/21/2010 8:50:10 PM, mongoose wrote:
It would seem that both our doctor and our day vigilante are failures.

*ghostly vote from beyond the grave*
WoooOOooo... Day vig could only kill Skut Farkis... wooOOOOoooOOO!!!
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lovelife
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12/21/2010 9:02:09 PM
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At 12/21/2010 8:50:10 PM, mongoose wrote:
It would seem that both our doctor and our day vigilante are failures.

How?

Oh yeah vig probably wont be killing anyone if he was killed NP2. but how does doctor fail?
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Korashk
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12/21/2010 9:23:28 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/21/2010 9:02:09 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 12/21/2010 8:50:10 PM, mongoose wrote:
It would seem that both our doctor and our day vigilante are failures.

How?

Oh yeah vig probably wont be killing anyone if he was killed NP2. but how does doctor fail?

Doctor was kind of supposed to keep tv alive.
When large numbers of otherwise-law abiding people break specific laws en masse, it's usually a fault that lies with the law. - Unknown
lovelife
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12/21/2010 9:25:08 PM
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At 12/21/2010 9:23:28 PM, Korashk wrote:
At 12/21/2010 9:02:09 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 12/21/2010 8:50:10 PM, mongoose wrote:
It would seem that both our doctor and our day vigilante are failures.

How?

Oh yeah vig probably wont be killing anyone if he was killed NP2. but how does doctor fail?

Doctor was kind of supposed to keep tv alive.

Oh okay. Gawd I fail I forget so much of whats said and done in these games these days.
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wjmelements
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12/21/2010 9:29:41 PM
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At 12/21/2010 8:37:20 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 12/21/2010 8:33:56 PM, wjmelements wrote:
At 12/21/2010 8:33:09 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 12/21/2010 8:32:26 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Here. Not much to say, except that a vigilante should kill sac8.
Why?
Grinch claim; ergo jester.
I don't think jester is necessarily harmful to the town. Jester just kind of does nothing, but maybe adds to overall town. We would be better off finding a real threat imo.

Should we take this stance without confirmation, it would be a mafia tactic to appear jester. It would be already, except we kill jester suspects because regardless they aren't town.
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lovelife
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12/21/2010 9:52:04 PM
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At 12/21/2010 9:29:41 PM, wjmelements wrote:
At 12/21/2010 8:37:20 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 12/21/2010 8:33:56 PM, wjmelements wrote:
At 12/21/2010 8:33:09 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 12/21/2010 8:32:26 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Here. Not much to say, except that a vigilante should kill sac8.
Why?
Grinch claim; ergo jester.
I don't think jester is necessarily harmful to the town. Jester just kind of does nothing, but maybe adds to overall town. We would be better off finding a real threat imo.

Should we take this stance without confirmation, it would be a mafia tactic to appear jester. It would be already, except we kill jester suspects because regardless they aren't town.
I suppose if there is nothing better to go on. I'd just prefer to go after more suspicious people.
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JBlake
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12/21/2010 10:30:02 PM
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The jester is not a huge threat, but can still be dangerous to the town. The jester is self-interested. If given the opportunity to do something that helps the mafia comes up, we can't trust that the jester won't take it. If I remember correctly, there was one game in particular where the jester hurt the town this way.

I agree that if we have a better target that we should put off killing the jester. But if there is no one else that is suspicious, we might as well have the jester killed during the night phase. This has been the standard practice in games that I have played.
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12/21/2010 10:44:32 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/21/2010 8:39:05 PM, Korashk wrote:
vtl ann

And why are you lynching me?
I'm not back. This idiot just upset me which made me stop lurking.
lovelife
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12/21/2010 10:45:48 PM
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At 12/21/2010 10:44:32 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 12/21/2010 8:39:05 PM, Korashk wrote:
vtl ann

And why are you lynching me?

for a claim
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lovelife
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12/21/2010 10:46:56 PM
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At 12/21/2010 10:30:02 PM, JBlake wrote:
The jester is not a huge threat, but can still be dangerous to the town. The jester is self-interested. If given the opportunity to do something that helps the mafia comes up, we can't trust that the jester won't take it. If I remember correctly, there was one game in particular where the jester hurt the town this way.

I agree that if we have a better target that we should put off killing the jester. But if there is no one else that is suspicious, we might as well have the jester killed during the night phase. This has been the standard practice in games that I have played.

I suppose.
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Korashk
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12/21/2010 10:51:21 PM
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At 12/21/2010 10:44:32 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 12/21/2010 8:39:05 PM, Korashk wrote:
vtl ann

And why are you lynching me?

Well ann, we aren't unless you refuse to character claim.
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studentathletechristian8
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12/21/2010 11:13:45 PM
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I will admit that I lied about both my character and role.

However, I had good reason. I won't release it to the town yet, because I still need one more piece to the pzzle.