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2/3/2011 2:54:09 AM
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Is anyone else here interested in, or passionate about learning languages? Or just knows a language besides English? It's good for your brain, world peace, your sex appeal, all that jazz.

I'm personally quite terrible at learning languages, but I still love it. While I've unfortunately only had self-teaching in any language (ie, no real teaching at all) I still enjoy learning and practicing. So I'm interested in what non-English languages you folks speak, are interested in learning, etc.
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2/3/2011 3:28:18 AM
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I suck at languages. But in my second year of Arabic classes at the moment, useful militarily even if I'm not that good at it as long as it's not a primary MOS.

I remember very little spanish.
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2/3/2011 3:58:01 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/3/2011 3:28:18 AM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
I suck at languages. But in my second year of Arabic classes at the moment, useful militarily even if I'm not that good at it as long as it's not a primary MOS.

I remember very little spanish.

Arabic? Goddamn I bet that's tough. Kudos to you. Though I imagine written Arabic isn't as important if it's for the military. Good luck, anyhow!

Myself, I took Japanese in high school, learned very little (Watashi wa neko desu ka?). Who learns anything in high school anyway? Tried studying French (Suis-je un chat?) to connect with my family until I remembered I can't stand my family. Briefly looked into Russian and Hindi, realized I hate learning new scripts. And also Russia and India. Tried out Mandarin on a whim (Wo shi mao ma?), discovered I'm fairly good at reading and writing it but pathetic at speaking and listening to it. Taking a break from Mandarin until I can get a real class, making good progress in Swedish (Jag är en katt?), and planning on trying out Esperanto (????)--which I really should have tried out first, seeing as it makes learning languages in general easier. Whoops. On the plus side, I can feel a good degree of confidence any time I need to confirm with a foreigner whether or not I'm a feline.

So do you enjoy Arabic or Spanish, or did you just take them for economic reasons (or because you were forced to)? I honestly can't imagine forcing myself through a language I didn't enjoy.
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2/3/2011 4:07:41 AM
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I've always wanted to learn another language. I'd like to learn French or Spanish for the pick-up factor. I can picture it now, whispering some French filth in a ladies ear while I... well I won't go into detail, but I think it would work.

I'm also interested in Japanese, though I think a beginner level understanding would be sufficient for the travelling I'd like to do over there. I'm not sure if this is correct but I've been saying "Anata wa baka des" for years.

Other than that, English is spoken, at least as a second language in most of the places I'd like to visit.
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2/3/2011 4:11:56 AM
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I've learned a bit of Sanskrit through my readings of Buddhist scripture and mantras.
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2/3/2011 4:13:44 AM
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Though, I'd like to learn Spanish for practical reason and French cause it's a cool language, plus I'm French and Mexican so it would be nice to speak both of my native languages.
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2/3/2011 4:20:44 AM
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Kudos to you on being able to stand Sanskrit. The script is tough to learn. French was rewarding, even if difficult to pronounce--let me know if you ever want recommendations for good French songs to learn from. France has no lack of good music...
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2/3/2011 6:02:40 AM
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Trying to learn quite a few:
Japanese
Chinese
Korean
German
Russian
Arabic
Hindi
Egyptian (ancient)
Mayan
Mongolian
Hebrew
Latin
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2/3/2011 7:01:53 AM
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I've been trying to learn Japanese for quite a while, but my progress is poor. I can read a little.

There is some consensus that the world's most difficult language is Navajo, and that Chinese is among the easier ones. Navajo puts the words in a sentence in a predetermined priority order, then adds tags to determine what function the words have in the sentence. Chinese has no gender, tense, or plurals -- I'm told -- but the tones are difficult for English speakers.
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2/3/2011 8:03:40 AM
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3 semesters in to learning German.

I don't really have a desire to learn any language as I believe in the next 20 years devices will be invented that will make learning a second language irrelevant.

Voice recognition gets better every year. In 20 years you will be able speak into a device and it will automatically translate in a louder voice the correct language.
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2/3/2011 8:11:19 AM
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At 2/3/2011 3:58:01 AM, Yvette wrote:
At 2/3/2011 3:28:18 AM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
I suck at languages. But in my second year of Arabic classes at the moment, useful militarily even if I'm not that good at it as long as it's not a primary MOS.

I remember very little spanish.

Arabic? Goddamn I bet that's tough. Kudos to you. Though I imagine written Arabic isn't as important if it's for the military. Good luck, anyhow!

Myself, I took Japanese in high school, learned very little (Watashi wa neko desu ka?).

Am I a cat? Lol

I'm a language aficionado. :)

I myself learned Japanese to communicate with family (motivated by my niece and nephew). I've dabbled in Mandarin and French as well. Going to start taking Mandarin more seriously soon.
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2/3/2011 9:49:11 AM
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At 2/3/2011 4:07:41 AM, tvellalott wrote:
I've always wanted to learn another language. I'd like to learn French...for the pick-up factor.

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2/3/2011 9:54:43 AM
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At 2/3/2011 7:01:53 AM, RoyLatham wrote:

There is some consensus that the world's most difficult language is Navajo, and that Chinese is among the easier ones. Navajo puts the words in a sentence in a predetermined priority order, then adds tags to determine what function the words have in the sentence. Chinese has no gender, tense, or plurals -- I'm told -- but the tones are difficult for English speakers.

This is true. I learned Mandarin for six years and I still have trouble with the six different inflections, but it's not just me: the words "buy" and "sell" are both "mai" in Mandarin, just with different inflections, and sound remarkably similar, which is why investment bankers in China are obliged to speak English on the trading floor!
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2/3/2011 10:06:45 AM
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I never enjoyed learning foreign languages but I do enjoy speaking them.

My best foreign languages are French, which I was taught at school from the age of five, and German which I was taught at school from the age of thirteen, both of which I practice on a daily basis speaking to suppliers in Continental Europe.

As an adult, I have also had to learn basic Slovak and Turkish, having lived in remote areas of those countries where very few people speak English.
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2/3/2011 10:28:51 AM
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I took 4 years of Japanese...but I feel like I learned very little.

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2/3/2011 10:35:16 AM
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At 2/3/2011 3:58:01 AM, Yvette wrote:
At 2/3/2011 3:28:18 AM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
I suck at languages. But in my second year of Arabic classes at the moment, useful militarily even if I'm not that good at it as long as it's not a primary MOS.

I remember very little spanish.

Arabic? Goddamn I bet that's tough. Kudos to you. Though I imagine written Arabic isn't as important if it's for the military. Good luck, anyhow!

Myself, I took Japanese in high school, learned very little (Watashi wa neko desu ka?). Who learns anything in high school anyway? Tried studying French (Suis-je un chat?) to connect with my family until I remembered I can't stand my family. Briefly looked into Russian and Hindi, realized I hate learning new scripts. And also Russia and India. Tried out Mandarin on a whim (Wo shi mao ma?), discovered I'm fairly good at reading and writing it but pathetic at speaking and listening to it. Taking a break from Mandarin until I can get a real class, making good progress in Swedish (Jag är en katt?), and planning on trying out Esperanto (????)--which I really should have tried out first, seeing as it makes learning languages in general easier. Whoops. On the plus side, I can feel a good degree of confidence any time I need to confirm with a foreigner whether or not I'm a feline.

So do you enjoy Arabic or Spanish, or did you just take them for economic reasons (or because you were forced to)? I honestly can't imagine forcing myself through a language I didn't enjoy.

I realize it's OT, but why the hate for India? :)
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2/3/2011 11:12:11 AM
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I've taken: about 6 years of spanish.. 1 of latin... and 1 of italian...

I can speak: English
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2/3/2011 11:46:07 AM
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I'm close to fluent in Japanese since I've taken 8+ years of classes. I can understand German and can speak it well but my proficiency seems to be decreasing -- I'll probably start learning it formally in college. I've also gotten quite good at Swahili and am learning Chinese (Mandarin) at the moment for fun...
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2/3/2011 11:59:48 AM
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At 2/3/2011 3:58:01 AM, Yvette wrote:
At 2/3/2011 3:28:18 AM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
I suck at languages. But in my second year of Arabic classes at the moment, useful militarily even if I'm not that good at it as long as it's not a primary MOS.

I remember very little spanish.

Arabic? Goddamn I bet that's tough. Kudos to you. Though I imagine written Arabic isn't as important if it's for the military. Good luck, anyhow!
I'm worse at speaking than writing. Least I can prolly read the signs and maybe use it for some intelligence analysty type stuff if I'm assigned to office intelligence rather than ground.


So do you enjoy Arabic or Spanish, or did you just take them for economic reasons (or because you were forced to)? I honestly can't imagine forcing myself through a language I didn't enjoy.
I don't really care for languages, but it's not THAT vexing. Arabic is indeed for economic reasons, and Spanish was at parental insistence. My other classes are easy, which helps.
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2/3/2011 12:03:47 PM
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I know a decent amount of French and Irish. I'm with Askbob in that within 20 years second languages will become more-less irrelevant.
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2/3/2011 1:40:24 PM
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At 2/3/2011 8:03:40 AM, askbob wrote:
3 semesters in to learning German.

I don't really have a desire to learn any language as I believe in the next 20 years devices will be invented that will make learning a second language irrelevant.

Voice recognition gets better every year. In 20 years you will be able speak into a device and it will automatically translate in a louder voice the correct language.

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2/3/2011 2:57:44 PM
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At 2/3/2011 6:02:40 AM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
Trying to learn quite a few:
Japanese
Chinese
Korean
German
Russian
Arabic
Hindi
Egyptian (ancient)
Mayan
Mongolian
Hebrew
Latin

Almost forgot:
Swahili
Bantu

Most of the stuff on my computer is either linguistics tutorial software, and PDF's on language syntax and dictionaries
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: ugly people should beat beautiful people ugly. simple! you'd be killing two birds with the one stone... women like violent men and you're making yourself more attractive, relatively. i met a blonde dude who was prettier than me not so long ago. he's not so pretty now! ha!
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2/3/2011 4:25:42 PM
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At 2/3/2011 10:35:16 AM, Indophile wrote:
At 2/3/2011 3:58:01 AM, Yvette wrote:
At 2/3/2011 3:28:18 AM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
I suck at languages. But in my second year of Arabic classes at the moment, useful militarily even if I'm not that good at it as long as it's not a primary MOS.

I remember very little spanish.

Arabic? Goddamn I bet that's tough. Kudos to you. Though I imagine written Arabic isn't as important if it's for the military. Good luck, anyhow!

Myself, I took Japanese in high school, learned very little (Watashi wa neko desu ka?). Who learns anything in high school anyway? Tried studying French (Suis-je un chat?) to connect with my family until I remembered I can't stand my family. Briefly looked into Russian and Hindi, realized I hate learning new scripts. And also Russia and India. Tried out Mandarin on a whim (Wo shi mao ma?), discovered I'm fairly good at reading and writing it but pathetic at speaking and listening to it. Taking a break from Mandarin until I can get a real class, making good progress in Swedish (Jag är en katt?), and planning on trying out Esperanto (????)--which I really should have tried out first, seeing as it makes learning languages in general easier. Whoops. On the plus side, I can feel a good degree of confidence any time I need to confirm with a foreigner whether or not I'm a feline.

So do you enjoy Arabic or Spanish, or did you just take them for economic reasons (or because you were forced to)? I honestly can't imagine forcing myself through a language I didn't enjoy.

I realize it's OT, but why the hate for India? :)

Hey, no defending Russia?

Actually, I don't hate India, I actually think it's fairly fascinating. I'm just hating on the country because I fail at their language. ;)
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2/3/2011 4:31:23 PM
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At 2/3/2011 8:11:19 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 2/3/2011 3:58:01 AM, Yvette wrote:
At 2/3/2011 3:28:18 AM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
I suck at languages. But in my second year of Arabic classes at the moment, useful militarily even if I'm not that good at it as long as it's not a primary MOS.

I remember very little spanish.

Arabic? Goddamn I bet that's tough. Kudos to you. Though I imagine written Arabic isn't as important if it's for the military. Good luck, anyhow!

Myself, I took Japanese in high school, learned very little (Watashi wa neko desu ka?).

Am I a cat? Lol


I'm a language aficionado. :)

I myself learned Japanese to communicate with family (motivated by my niece and nephew). I've dabbled in Mandarin and French as well. Going to start taking Mandarin more seriously soon.

Very cool. Mandarin is very rewarding. Let me know if you have any questions or want any tips--I'm not very advanced myself though.
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2/3/2011 5:18:21 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/3/2011 2:57:44 PM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
At 2/3/2011 6:02:40 AM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
Trying to learn quite a few:
Japanese
Chinese
Korean
German
Russian
Arabic
Hindi
Egyptian (ancient)
Mayan
Mongolian
Hebrew
Latin

Almost forgot:
Swahili
Bantu

Most of the stuff on my computer is either linguistics tutorial software, and PDF's on language syntax and dictionaries

I have problem with pronunciations though.
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: At 12/6/2011 2:21:41 PM, badger wrote:
: ugly people should beat beautiful people ugly. simple! you'd be killing two birds with the one stone... women like violent men and you're making yourself more attractive, relatively. i met a blonde dude who was prettier than me not so long ago. he's not so pretty now! ha!
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2/3/2011 6:49:48 PM
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I realize it's OT, but why the hate for India? :)

Hey, no defending Russia?

Actually, I don't hate India, I actually think it's fairly fascinating. I'm just hating on the country because I fail at their language. ;)

Well, I could get the hate Russia angle, given its history :)
But India has not been that important a player in world politics for anyone to build up hate for it. Hence the question. Unless one hates its culture.

Also, I doubt that many people in India would be happy with equating Hindi to India, just like one equates Russian to Russia!
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