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12/14/2012 1:24:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 12:41:15 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
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So, more gun control is starting to sound really good right about now.

How about we ban school shootings? It would be just as absurd an ineffective as more gun control laws.
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12/14/2012 1:44:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Fvcking scum. I want armed police at every school. I want an armed militia patrolling the streets. I want metal detectors everywhere.
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12/14/2012 1:46:28 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 1:24:29 PM, 1Percenter wrote:
At 12/14/2012 12:41:15 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
http://gawker.com...-

So, more gun control is starting to sound really good right about now.

How about we ban school shootings? It would be just as absurd an ineffective as more gun control laws.

maybe you're right. Maybe I am overreacting but this does seem to be a growing trend am I wrong?
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12/14/2012 1:57:45 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
guns just gotta go. like, who's to say even your armed guard isn't gonna be a fvckjob like one of these scumbags and start shooting off into a crowd? no one.

this is ridiculous.
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12/14/2012 1:59:33 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 1:46:28 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
At 12/14/2012 1:24:29 PM, 1Percenter wrote:
At 12/14/2012 12:41:15 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
http://gawker.com...-

So, more gun control is starting to sound really good right about now.

How about we ban school shootings? It would be just as absurd an ineffective as more gun control laws.

maybe you're right. Maybe I am overreacting but this does seem to be a growing trend am I wrong?

Theres always people getting shot somewhere in this country, the problem is the public only gives a sh*t about it only when more then 6 people get killed.....
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12/14/2012 2:10:16 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 1:46:28 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
At 12/14/2012 1:24:29 PM, 1Percenter wrote:
At 12/14/2012 12:41:15 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
http://gawker.com...-

So, more gun control is starting to sound really good right about now.

How about we ban school shootings? It would be just as absurd an ineffective as more gun control laws.

maybe you're right. Maybe I am overreacting but this does seem to be a growing trend am I wrong?

I agree that this is becoming a trend. Its making me want a concealed weapon permit more and more.
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12/14/2012 2:23:39 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 2:19:59 PM, badger wrote:
yes, yes. more guns. there's your solution.

More stable, Responsible people with guns couldn't hurt.
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12/14/2012 2:26:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 2:23:39 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:19:59 PM, badger wrote:
yes, yes. more guns. there's your solution.

More stable, Responsible people with guns couldn't hurt.

Well as you can clearly see by what happened in f*cking connecticut, we cant tell who is and who isnt responsible.
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12/14/2012 2:27:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 2:23:39 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:19:59 PM, badger wrote:
yes, yes. more guns. there's your solution.

More stable, Responsible people with guns couldn't hurt.

it's fvcking retarded. "okay guns aren't working, too many people are killing each other....oh i know!! more guns!!"

you dun went the wrong way.
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12/14/2012 2:28:05 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 2:26:35 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:23:39 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:19:59 PM, badger wrote:
yes, yes. more guns. there's your solution.

More stable, Responsible people with guns couldn't hurt.

Well as you can clearly see by what happened in f*cking connecticut, we cant tell who is and who isnt responsible.

you're growing on me.
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12/14/2012 2:29:52 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 2:26:35 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:23:39 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:19:59 PM, badger wrote:
yes, yes. more guns. there's your solution.

More stable, Responsible people with guns couldn't hurt.

Well as you can clearly see by what happened in f*cking connecticut, we cant tell who is and who isnt responsible.

I'm talking about concealed carry for staff in schools.
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12/14/2012 2:31:12 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 2:29:52 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:26:35 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:23:39 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:19:59 PM, badger wrote:
yes, yes. more guns. there's your solution.

More stable, Responsible people with guns couldn't hurt.

Well as you can clearly see by what happened in f*cking connecticut, we cant tell who is and who isnt responsible.

I'm talking about concealed carry for staff in schools.

Teachers shoot students/administrators all the time.
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12/14/2012 2:31:12 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 2:29:52 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:26:35 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:23:39 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:19:59 PM, badger wrote:
yes, yes. more guns. there's your solution.

More stable, Responsible people with guns couldn't hurt.

Well as you can clearly see by what happened in f*cking connecticut, we cant tell who is and who isnt responsible.

I'm talking about concealed carry for staff in schools.

OH gotcha, i thought you were saying something COMPLETELY different
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12/14/2012 2:32:45 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 2:31:12 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:29:52 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:26:35 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:23:39 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:19:59 PM, badger wrote:
yes, yes. more guns. there's your solution.

More stable, Responsible people with guns couldn't hurt.

Well as you can clearly see by what happened in f*cking connecticut, we cant tell who is and who isnt responsible.

I'm talking about concealed carry for staff in schools.

Teachers shoot students/administrators all the time.

All the time? Didn't know that.
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12/14/2012 2:33:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 2:31:12 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:29:52 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:26:35 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:23:39 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:19:59 PM, badger wrote:
yes, yes. more guns. there's your solution.

More stable, Responsible people with guns couldn't hurt.

Well as you can clearly see by what happened in f*cking connecticut, we cant tell who is and who isnt responsible.

I'm talking about concealed carry for staff in schools.

Teachers shoot students/administrators all the time.

name one instance where a teacher killed 4 or more students with a gun in a school
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12/14/2012 2:35:09 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 2:33:35 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:31:12 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:29:52 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:26:35 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:23:39 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:19:59 PM, badger wrote:
yes, yes. more guns. there's your solution.

More stable, Responsible people with guns couldn't hurt.

Well as you can clearly see by what happened in f*cking connecticut, we cant tell who is and who isnt responsible.

I'm talking about concealed carry for staff in schools.

Teachers shoot students/administrators all the time.

name one instance where a teacher killed 4 or more students with a gun in a school

4 or more... wow.
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12/14/2012 2:35:16 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 2:31:12 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:29:52 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:26:35 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:23:39 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:19:59 PM, badger wrote:
yes, yes. more guns. there's your solution.

More stable, Responsible people with guns couldn't hurt.

Well as you can clearly see by what happened in f*cking connecticut, we cant tell who is and who isnt responsible.

I'm talking about concealed carry for staff in schools.

OH gotcha, i thought you were saying something COMPLETELY different

Is that a bad idea? Plenty of responsible teachers out there could possibly prevent something like this. I think we all agree you can't keep guns out of the hands of every would be criminal.
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12/14/2012 2:37:15 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 2:33:35 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:31:12 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:29:52 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:26:35 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:23:39 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:19:59 PM, badger wrote:
yes, yes. more guns. there's your solution.

More stable, Responsible people with guns couldn't hurt.

Well as you can clearly see by what happened in f*cking connecticut, we cant tell who is and who isnt responsible.

I'm talking about concealed carry for staff in schools.

Teachers shoot students/administrators all the time.

name one instance where a teacher killed 4 or more students with a gun in a school
http://news.google.com...
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12/14/2012 2:37:34 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 2:35:16 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:31:12 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:29:52 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:26:35 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:23:39 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:19:59 PM, badger wrote:
yes, yes. more guns. there's your solution.

More stable, Responsible people with guns couldn't hurt.

Well as you can clearly see by what happened in f*cking connecticut, we cant tell who is and who isnt responsible.

I'm talking about concealed carry for staff in schools.

OH gotcha, i thought you were saying something COMPLETELY different

Is that a bad idea? Plenty of responsible teachers out there could possibly prevent something like this. I think we all agree you can't keep guns out of the hands of every would be criminal.

it's fvcking pants on head retarded.
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12/14/2012 2:38:19 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 2:35:16 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:31:12 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:29:52 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:26:35 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:23:39 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:19:59 PM, badger wrote:
yes, yes. more guns. there's your solution.

More stable, Responsible people with guns couldn't hurt.

Well as you can clearly see by what happened in f*cking connecticut, we cant tell who is and who isnt responsible.

I'm talking about concealed carry for staff in schools.

OH gotcha, i thought you were saying something COMPLETELY different

Is that a bad idea? Plenty of responsible teachers out there could possibly prevent something like this.

^ And theres your problem. If we cant tell which civilians are/arent responsible then how the hell would we be able to do the same thing with teachers?

I think we all agree you can't keep guns out of the hands of every would be criminal.

Well duh, but it wouldnt hurt to be a little more restrictive with gun rights though
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12/14/2012 2:39:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 2:37:15 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:33:35 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:31:12 PM, royalpaladin wrote:

Teachers shoot students/administrators all the time.

name one instance where a teacher killed 4 or more students with a gun in a school
http://news.google.com...

Can you give me an example that isnt from 1984?
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12/14/2012 2:40:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 2:39:21 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:37:15 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:33:35 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:31:12 PM, royalpaladin wrote:

Teachers shoot students/administrators all the time.

name one instance where a teacher killed 4 or more students with a gun in a school
http://news.google.com...

Can you give me an example that isnt from 1984?

or one where students in a school were killed and not his family in his own house?
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12/14/2012 2:41:52 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 2:39:21 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:37:15 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:33:35 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:31:12 PM, royalpaladin wrote:

Teachers shoot students/administrators all the time.

name one instance where a teacher killed 4 or more students with a gun in a school
http://news.google.com...

Can you give me an example that isnt from 1984?

You're shifting burdens just because I had a counterexample.

There are a ton of examples of teachers killing students and administrators.

http://content.usatoday.com...
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12/14/2012 2:44:49 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 2:41:52 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:39:21 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:37:15 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:33:35 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:31:12 PM, royalpaladin wrote:

Teachers shoot students/administrators all the time.

name one instance where a teacher killed 4 or more students with a gun in a school
http://news.google.com...

Can you give me an example that isnt from 1984?

You're shifting burdens just because I had a counterexample.

No idiot, when you claim that teachers shoot students all the time and the only example you bring up is an event that happened almost 30 years ago, and also didnt result in any dead students in a school, then your claim that teachers shoot students all the time becomes bull.

There are a ton of examples of teachers killing students and administrators.

http://content.usatoday.com...
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12/14/2012 2:46:11 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 2:38:19 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:35:16 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:31:12 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:29:52 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:26:35 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:23:39 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:19:59 PM, badger wrote:
yes, yes. more guns. there's your solution.

More stable, Responsible people with guns couldn't hurt.

Well as you can clearly see by what happened in f*cking connecticut, we cant tell who is and who isnt responsible.

I'm talking about concealed carry for staff in schools.

OH gotcha, i thought you were saying something COMPLETELY different

Is that a bad idea? Plenty of responsible teachers out there could possibly prevent something like this.

^ And theres your problem. If we cant tell which civilians are/arent responsible then how the hell would we be able to do the same thing with teachers?

I'm open to a better idea here, its not that hard to pick out the upstanding responsible teachers in a school. I could name a dozen unanimously approved staff in every school I've ever attended.
You cant compare teachers to some random guy off the street.
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12/14/2012 2:51:03 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 2:46:11 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:38:19 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:35:16 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:31:12 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:29:52 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:26:35 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:23:39 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:19:59 PM, badger wrote:
yes, yes. more guns. there's your solution.

More stable, Responsible people with guns couldn't hurt.

Well as you can clearly see by what happened in f*cking connecticut, we cant tell who is and who isnt responsible.

I'm talking about concealed carry for staff in schools.

OH gotcha, i thought you were saying something COMPLETELY different

Is that a bad idea? Plenty of responsible teachers out there could possibly prevent something like this.

^ And theres your problem. If we cant tell which civilians are/arent responsible then how the hell would we be able to do the same thing with teachers?

I'm open to a better idea here, its not that hard to pick out the upstanding responsible teachers in a school. I could name a dozen unanimously approved staff in every school I've ever attended.

How about we make it hard for strangers to get into schools? My highschool was basically sealed from the outside and you could never get in or out during school hours without being seen by at least 2 security guards at any given time.

You cant compare teachers to some random guy off the street.

Im pretty sure that a random guy off the street would have better aim then a 90 year old english teacher....
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12/14/2012 2:54:24 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 2:44:49 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:41:52 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:39:21 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:37:15 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:33:35 PM, imabench wrote:
At 12/14/2012 2:31:12 PM, royalpaladin wrote:

Teachers shoot students/administrators all the time.

name one instance where a teacher killed 4 or more students with a gun in a school
http://news.google.com...

Can you give me an example that isnt from 1984?

You're shifting burdens just because I had a counterexample.

No idiot, when you claim that teachers shoot students all the time and the only example you bring up is an event that happened almost 30 years ago, and also didnt result in any dead students in a school, then your claim that teachers shoot students all the time becomes bull.

February 26, 1902: Camargo, Illinois teacher Fletcher R. Barnett shot and killed another teacher, Eva C. Wiseman, in front of her class at a school near Camargo, Illinois. After shooting at a pupil who came to help Miss Wiseman and wounding himself in a failed suicide attempt he waited in the classroom until a group of farmers came to lynch him. He then ran out of the school building, grabbed a shotgun from one of the farmers and shot himself, before running away and leaping into a well where he finally drowned. The incident was likely sparked by Wiseman's refusal to marry Barnett.

February 24, 1903: Inman, South Carolina Edward Foster, a 17-year-old student at Inman High school, was shot and fatally wounded by his teacher Reuben Pitts after he had jerked a rod from Pitts' hands to resist punishment. According to the teacher, Foster struck the pistol Pitts had drawn to defend himself, thus causing its discharge. Pitts was later acquitted of murder.

February 12, 1909: San Francisco, California 10-year-old Dorothy Malakanoff was shot and killed by 49-year-old Demetri Tereaschinko as she arrived at her school in San Francisco. Tereaschinko then shot himself in a failed suicide attempt. Tereaschinko was reportedly upset that Malakanoff refused to elope with him.

March 27, 1919: Lodi Township, Michigan 19-year-old teacher Irma Casler was shot and killed in her classroom at Rentschler school in Lodi Township, Michigan by Robert Warner, apparently because she had rejected his advances.

April 2, 1921: Syracuse, New York Professor Holmes Beckwith shot and killed dean J. Herman Wharton in his office at Syracuse University before committing suicide.

May 6, 1940: South Pasadena, California. After being removed as principal of South Pasadena Junior High School, Verlin Spencer shot six school officials, killing five, before attempting to commit suicide by shooting himself in the stomach.

May 23, 1940: New York City, New York Infuriated by a grievance, Matthew Gillespie, 62-year-old janitor at the junior school of the Dwight School for Girls, shot and critically wounded Mrs. Marshall Coxe, secretary of the junior school.

There are plenty of more examples like this.
There are a ton of examples of teachers killing students and administrators.

http://content.usatoday.com...