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Homosexuality a result of gene regulation

Mirza
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12/19/2012 5:14:21 PM
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Seems like earlier research is getting confirmed.

"... if an epi-mark that kept a mother from getting exposed to high testosterone in development gets passed on to her son " the opposite sex " it could desensitize him to testosterone, contributing to his sexual preference for men. Similarly, if a male-specific epi-mark from dad gets passed to a daughter, it could "masculinize" her sexual preference, making her more interested in women." http://www.foxnews.com...
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12/19/2012 7:50:40 PM
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At 12/19/2012 5:14:21 PM, Mirza wrote:
Seems like earlier research is getting confirmed.

"... if an epi-mark that kept a mother from getting exposed to high testosterone in development gets passed on to her son " the opposite sex " it could desensitize him to testosterone, contributing to his sexual preference for men. Similarly, if a male-specific epi-mark from dad gets passed to a daughter, it could "masculinize" her sexual preference, making her more interested in women." http://www.foxnews.com...

How can evolutionists deal with that?
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12/20/2012 2:32:55 PM
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At 12/19/2012 7:50:40 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
At 12/19/2012 5:14:21 PM, Mirza wrote:
Seems like earlier research is getting confirmed.

"... if an epi-mark that kept a mother from getting exposed to high testosterone in development gets passed on to her son " the opposite sex " it could desensitize him to testosterone, contributing to his sexual preference for men. Similarly, if a male-specific epi-mark from dad gets passed to a daughter, it could "masculinize" her sexual preference, making her more interested in women." http://www.foxnews.com...

How can evolutionists deal with that?

Deal with what?
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12/21/2012 11:24:12 AM
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That's fox news, I want to see this comfirmed through multiple sourse.
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12/22/2012 4:35:38 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/21/2012 11:24:12 AM, lannan13 wrote:
That's fox news, I want to see this comfirmed through multiple sourse.
Uh, if you take time to read it, the whole article is based on another source. You know, scientists and their research. You can also take time to Google and find the same study elsewhere. Indeed.
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12/23/2012 12:36:40 PM
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This thread should be titled "Gene regulation a cause of homosexuality", because the evidence doesn't negate the many other causes, one of which is simply genetic.
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12/23/2012 12:37:56 PM
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At 12/20/2012 2:32:55 PM, MilitaryAtheist wrote:
At 12/19/2012 7:50:40 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
At 12/19/2012 5:14:21 PM, Mirza wrote:
Seems like earlier research is getting confirmed.

"... if an epi-mark that kept a mother from getting exposed to high testosterone in development gets passed on to her son " the opposite sex " it could desensitize him to testosterone, contributing to his sexual preference for men. Similarly, if a male-specific epi-mark from dad gets passed to a daughter, it could "masculinize" her sexual preference, making her more interested in women." http://www.foxnews.com...

How can evolutionists deal with that?

Deal with what?

Homosexuality is not exactly conducive to the survival of a species.
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12/23/2012 12:45:58 PM
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At 12/23/2012 12:37:56 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
Homosexuality is not exactly conducive to the survival of a species.

Universal homexuality is no more conducive to survival than universal maleness, so luckily neither homosexuality nor maleness are universal. Fractional homosexuality is, on the other hand, quite efficient because it puts what would otherwise be a surplus male population to work caring for children (especially nieces and nephews) or, at the very least, not fighting for mates.
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1/8/2013 10:43:11 AM
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At 12/23/2012 12:37:56 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
At 12/20/2012 2:32:55 PM, MilitaryAtheist wrote:
At 12/19/2012 7:50:40 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
At 12/19/2012 5:14:21 PM, Mirza wrote:
Seems like earlier research is getting confirmed.

"... if an epi-mark that kept a mother from getting exposed to high testosterone in development gets passed on to her son " the opposite sex " it could desensitize him to testosterone, contributing to his sexual preference for men. Similarly, if a male-specific epi-mark from dad gets passed to a daughter, it could "masculinize" her sexual preference, making her more interested in women." http://www.foxnews.com...

How can evolutionists deal with that?

Deal with what?

Homosexuality is not exactly conducive to the survival of a species.

Evolution is not exactly conducive to the survival of a species.

However, I must note that population control is.
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1/8/2013 11:37:15 AM
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At 12/23/2012 12:37:56 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
At 12/20/2012 2:32:55 PM, MilitaryAtheist wrote:
At 12/19/2012 7:50:40 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
At 12/19/2012 5:14:21 PM, Mirza wrote:
Seems like earlier research is getting confirmed.

"... if an epi-mark that kept a mother from getting exposed to high testosterone in development gets passed on to her son " the opposite sex " it could desensitize him to testosterone, contributing to his sexual preference for men. Similarly, if a male-specific epi-mark from dad gets passed to a daughter, it could "masculinize" her sexual preference, making her more interested in women." http://www.foxnews.com...

How can evolutionists deal with that?

Deal with what?

Homosexuality is not exactly conducive to the survival of a species.

How so?
1Devilsadvocate
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1/8/2013 12:39:48 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
What I'm saying is this:
Who is passing on this homo-sexual gene?
The gene should have died out, because the ones who have it, don't pass it.
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Mirza
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1/8/2013 12:46:10 PM
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At 1/8/2013 12:39:48 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
The gene should have died out, because the ones who have it, don't pass it.
My link didn't die out. So if you read it, you'll get a few facts stuck in your head.
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1/8/2013 4:41:28 PM
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At 1/8/2013 12:39:48 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:

The gene should have died out, because the ones who have it, don't pass it.

Solid point.
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1/8/2013 5:37:23 PM
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At 1/8/2013 4:41:28 PM, Franz_Reynard wrote:
At 1/8/2013 12:39:48 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:

The gene should have died out, because the ones who have it, don't pass it.

Solid point.

Lol, no it isnt...read the article
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1/8/2013 10:07:44 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/8/2013 5:37:23 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 1/8/2013 4:41:28 PM, Franz_Reynard wrote:
At 1/8/2013 12:39:48 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:

The gene should have died out, because the ones who have it, don't pass it.

Solid point.

Lol, no it isnt...read the article

First sentence:

"The search for a "gay gene" may be off-target, new research finds."

Hahahaha, whoops.
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1/8/2013 10:57:12 PM
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At 1/8/2013 10:07:44 PM, Franz_Reynard wrote:
At 1/8/2013 5:37:23 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 1/8/2013 4:41:28 PM, Franz_Reynard wrote:
At 1/8/2013 12:39:48 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:

The gene should have died out, because the ones who have it, don't pass it.

Solid point.

Lol, no it isnt...read the article

First sentence:

"The search for a "gay gene" may be off-target, new research finds."

Hahahaha, whoops.

Yeah I made the same mistake.
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1/9/2013 6:02:28 AM
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At 12/23/2012 12:45:58 PM, CarefulNow wrote:
At 12/23/2012 12:37:56 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
Homosexuality is not exactly conducive to the survival of a species.

Universal homexuality is no more conducive to survival than universal maleness, so luckily neither homosexuality nor maleness are universal. Fractional homosexuality is, on the other hand, quite efficient because it puts what would otherwise be a surplus male population to work caring for children (especially nieces and nephews) or, at the very least, not fighting for mates.

perhaps not for, but at least with (and so kinda for, right?)

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At one time in Sparta the men were 100% homosexual.*

The Greeks were living before either a sin or medical model of homosexuality and while aware of differing inclinations did not consider these important enough to establish a separate social category. Exclusive preference for one sex or the other was not an issue and most men we hear about liked both. In short this paper is not about Greek 'homosexuality' but about romantic love in Greece during the age of the tyrants. The fact that it was largely homosexual is interesting to us but was not particularly so to the Greeks.

*The asterisk leads to the source of this information - the ever-controversial, PBS.

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