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TheElderScroll
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12/22/2012 9:28:50 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Well, I am not sure if people should be laughing or complaining. According to Iowa Supreme Court, it is legal to fire employee for being irresistibly sexy...

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Women in Iowa beware: If your boss thinks you"re really really ridiculously good looking, he can fire you. And it"s perfectly legal. The all-male Iowa Supreme Court refused to reinstate a lawsuit Friday, noting that a dentist didn"t break the law when he fired an employee who had worked for him for 10 years because he and his wife saw her as a threat to their marriage, reports the Associated Press. Melissa Nelson, the 32-year-old dental assistant was by all accounts a stellar employee. But her boss, James Knight, complained of her tight clothing, "once telling her that if his pants were bulging that was a sign her clothes were too revealing."

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12/22/2012 9:37:09 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Fox news does provide readers with a considerable details.

Some facts:
Nelson, 32, worked for Knight for 10 years, and he considered her a stellar worker. But in the final months of her employment, he complained that her tight clothing was distracting, once telling her that if his pants were bulging that was a sign her clothes were too revealing, according to the opinion.

He also once allegedly remarked about her infrequent sex life by saying, "that's like having a Lamborghini in the garage and never driving it."

Knight and Nelson -- both married with children -- started exchanging text messages, mostly about personal matters, such as their families. Knight's wife, who also worked in the dental office, found out about the messages and demanded Nelson be fired. The Knights consulted with their pastor, who agreed that terminating Nelson was appropriate.

Knight fired Nelson and gave her one month's severance. He later told Nelson's husband that he worried he was getting too personally attached and feared he would eventually try to start an affair with her.

Nelson was stunned because she viewed the 53-year-old Knight as a father figure and had never been interested in starting a relationship, Fiedler said.
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12/23/2012 11:10:44 PM
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This is stupid.
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12/23/2012 11:14:26 PM
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I think its a stupid reason, unless it REALLY was affecting him during the job, which I doubt.

However, he is the boss. He can fire whoever he wants, for whatever reason.
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12/23/2012 11:15:16 PM
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At 12/23/2012 11:14:26 PM, OberHerr wrote:
I think its a stupid reason, unless it REALLY was affecting him during the job, which I doubt.

However, he is the boss. He can fire whoever he wants, for whatever reason.

Did you just C / P that?
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12/23/2012 11:23:13 PM
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At 12/23/2012 11:15:16 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 12/23/2012 11:14:26 PM, OberHerr wrote:
I think its a stupid reason, unless it REALLY was affecting him during the job, which I doubt.

However, he is the boss. He can fire whoever he wants, for whatever reason.

Did you just C / P that?

Yup.
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12/24/2012 10:09:04 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/24/2012 7:40:24 PM, TheElderScroll wrote:
At 12/23/2012 11:10:44 PM, RationalMadman wrote:
This is stupid.

It is beyond the reason....

even beyond that
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1/2/2013 1:50:10 AM
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Is this some kind of new thing to prevent sexual harassment in the workplace? I can understand the concerns and where they're coming from, but this method of dealing with it is just another form of discrimination. People can control how they dress, but they can't really control physical appearance and one's physical appearance also plays a role obviously in whether they're considered "sexy".

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1/5/2013 8:19:55 PM
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At 12/23/2012 11:14:26 PM, OberHerr wrote:
I think its a stupid reason, unless it REALLY was affecting him during the job, which I doubt.

However, he is the boss. He can fire whoever he wants, for whatever reason.
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1/8/2013 8:59:13 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
And now. It is somewhat not illegal to rape a female who is not married...
I have no idea what is going on.
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1/8/2013 5:46:06 PM
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At 1/2/2013 1:50:10 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Is this some kind of new thing to prevent sexual harassment in the workplace? I can understand the concerns and where they're coming from, but this method of dealing with it is just another form of discrimination. People can control how they dress, but they can't really control physical appearance and one's physical appearance also plays a role obviously in whether they're considered "sexy".

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But the boss should be able to fire whoever they want, that is their job, is it not?
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1/8/2013 5:50:54 PM
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this is a disaster, my chances for employment are ruined!
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1/8/2013 6:00:06 PM
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I actually agree with the guy. Unwanted and/or impromptu boners are a huge problem among the male community and should be fought any way possible.
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1/8/2013 6:00:58 PM
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At 1/8/2013 6:00:06 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
I actually agree with the guy. Unwanted and/or impromptu boners are a huge problem among the male community and should be fought any way possible.
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1/8/2013 6:51:26 PM
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At 1/2/2013 1:50:10 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Is this some kind of new thing to prevent sexual harassment in the workplace? I can understand the concerns and where they're coming from, but this method of dealing with it is just another form of discrimination. People can control how they dress, but they can't really control physical appearance and one's physical appearance also plays a role obviously in whether they're considered "sexy".

P.S- love the username!

The Appeal Court, to a certain extent, recognizes the the unfairness in its ruling. But, the judges (all males) claim that this is not a form of discrimination because the doctor hired another female (show that the firing is not sex-oriented) after he fired her.

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1/8/2013 6:54:47 PM
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At 1/8/2013 6:00:06 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
I actually agree with the guy. Unwanted and/or impromptu boners are a huge problem among the male community and should be fought any way possible.

Then may I ask: Would you believe it is fair to the employees (female in this case)? Or do you think the fairness should play any role in this case?
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1/9/2013 4:44:45 AM
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At 1/8/2013 6:54:47 PM, TheElderScroll wrote:
At 1/8/2013 6:00:06 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
I actually agree with the guy. Unwanted and/or impromptu boners are a huge problem among the male community and should be fought any way possible.

Then may I ask: Would you believe it is fair to the employees (female in this case)? Or do you think the fairness should play any role in this case?

He (the boss) fired her. That is the chain of command in the workplace.
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1/9/2013 5:36:36 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/8/2013 6:54:47 PM, TheElderScroll wrote:
At 1/8/2013 6:00:06 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
I actually agree with the guy. Unwanted and/or impromptu boners are a huge problem among the male community and should be fought any way possible.

Then may I ask: Would you believe it is fair to the employees (female in this case)? Or do you think the fairness should play any role in this case?

If I may say, I don't necessarily agree with johnnyboy54's reasoning, however, I do agree that I feel the firing was appropriate, if all that has been stated is true.

We have to keep in mind how powerful one's sexual drive is. It would not be unthinkable that two people, who are in frequent contact with one another, and whom share a relatively close relationship (as many co-workers do), would begin to have sexual relations with one another. In fact, I dare say more often than not, when a spouse "cheats" on the other, it is with someone from that individual's workplace; not some random person they pick up at a bar, or what have you.

Given that, even if it is true she didn't have sexual feelings for him, that does not mean he didn't truly begin to develop those urges for her. But unlike your day to day life, where you can usually just ignore a person and walk away, he did not have the option to do so; she works for him. So it makes entire sense that, if he was feeling sexual desires, and he was truly concerned that he might give into those desires and cheat on his spouse, that he would then let go the employee who was bringing about those desires. That's entirely fair and justifiable. His marriage and his love for his wife and family vastly outweighs the job security of that woman, or any employee anywhere.