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1/7/2013 8:44:05 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Anonymous Threatens to Destroy UN"s International Telecommunication Union

http://news.softpedia.com...
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1/7/2013 8:51:23 AM
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I bet most people didn't even know that the governments of the world were meeting in order to plot this censorship until they read this article. Why wasn't this in the media at all?
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1/7/2013 8:57:51 AM
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At 1/7/2013 8:51:23 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
I bet most people didn't even know that the governments of the world were meeting in order to plot this censorship until they read this article. Why wasn't this in the media at all?

Yeah, well Softpedia had an article about it a few days ago.
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1/7/2013 8:59:26 AM
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At 1/7/2013 8:57:51 AM, 1dustpelt wrote:
At 1/7/2013 8:51:23 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
I bet most people didn't even know that the governments of the world were meeting in order to plot this censorship until they read this article. Why wasn't this in the media at all?

Yeah, well Softpedia had an article about it a few days ago.

That's not mainstream media . . . I don't even know what softpedia is.
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1/7/2013 9:09:32 AM
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So foolish, these "threats."

Anyone who's about anything does, not "threats."

I mean, what's the point, really?
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1/7/2013 9:09:41 AM
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This is rather ambitious for a group that hasn't actually done anything...
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1/7/2013 9:19:27 AM
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At 1/7/2013 9:09:41 AM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
This is rather ambitious for a group that hasn't actually done anything...

Um, what? Anonymous has done a ton . . .
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1/7/2013 9:23:39 AM
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At 1/7/2013 9:19:27 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:09:41 AM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
This is rather ambitious for a group that hasn't actually done anything...

Um, what? Anonymous has done a ton . . .

Right, and anonymously.

Generally speaking, when Anon does something, though, it's done silently.

So, it's my opinion that these "threats" are for intimidation -- to gain some sort of perceptive leverage, or perhaps public support -- rather than actual utility.
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1/7/2013 9:34:27 AM
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At 1/7/2013 9:19:27 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:09:41 AM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
This is rather ambitious for a group that hasn't actually done anything...

Um, what? Anonymous has done a ton . . .

I don't understand why they don't do more if they can.
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1/7/2013 9:41:53 AM
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At 1/7/2013 9:19:27 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:09:41 AM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
This is rather ambitious for a group that hasn't actually done anything...

Um, what? Anonymous has done a ton . . .

If by a "ton" you mean pissing off Scientologists and screwing around with government websites, then sure, they've done a ton.

"In April 2012, Anonymous hacked 485 Chinese government websites, some more than once, to protest the lack of democracy"

And we all know how much democracy China now has...
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1/7/2013 9:42:08 AM
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At 1/7/2013 9:34:27 AM, Danielle wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:19:27 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:09:41 AM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
This is rather ambitious for a group that hasn't actually done anything...

Um, what? Anonymous has done a ton . . .

I don't understand why they don't do more if they can.

I honestly have no idea. They do have to make sure they're not caught, so maybe that's a factor. Not only is the FBI after them, but so are other hacktivists like The Jester.
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1/7/2013 9:43:11 AM
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At 1/7/2013 9:41:53 AM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:19:27 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:09:41 AM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
This is rather ambitious for a group that hasn't actually done anything...

Um, what? Anonymous has done a ton . . .

If by a "ton" you mean pissing off Scientologists and screwing around with government websites, then sure, they've done a ton.

"In April 2012, Anonymous hacked 485 Chinese government websites, some more than once, to protest the lack of democracy"

And we all know how much democracy China now has...

They've done a great job exposing rapists who otherwise were not being tried by law enforcement. They also took out a major child pornography website that was hidden in the Deep Web.
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1/7/2013 9:45:41 AM
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Like, I spent some time last week reading about this because I was bored and I saw what they were doing in the Stuebenville case. Different wings of Anonymous do different things. There are several groups within Anonymous that take out child pornography rings. Other groups do things like gather intel on unethical corporate practices (remember when they released the info. on Bank of America's scheme to create fake contracts and steal people's homes?).
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1/7/2013 9:46:52 AM
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So, then is it stupid or something to believe that someone isn't serious about something if they announce their intention to do so publicly beforehand?
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1/7/2013 9:47:31 AM
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At 1/7/2013 9:45:41 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
(remember when they released the info. on Bank of America's scheme to create fake contracts and steal people's homes?).

Yeah, what ever came of that? o_O
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1/7/2013 9:48:25 AM
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At 1/7/2013 9:46:52 AM, Franz_Reynard wrote:
So, then is it stupid or something to believe that someone isn't serious about something if they announce their intention to do so publicly beforehand?

No.
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1/7/2013 9:50:31 AM
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At 1/7/2013 9:47:31 AM, Danielle wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:45:41 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
(remember when they released the info. on Bank of America's scheme to create fake contracts and steal people's homes?).

Yeah, what ever came of that? o_O

As far as I am aware, the government didn't do anything.
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1/7/2013 9:51:18 AM
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At 1/7/2013 9:48:25 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:46:52 AM, Franz_Reynard wrote:
So, then is it stupid or something to believe that someone isn't serious about something if they announce their intention to do so publicly beforehand?

No.

Okay, because I seem to be the only one directly approaching the OP, with this opinion, and I'm being ignored, so I just thought I'd ask.

How do we feel about internet vigilantes, anyway? It's nice that they're stealing organizations' private information and exposing them when they seem dubious, but why don't they take it a step further and protect from other hackers, as well?

I mean, Bank of America is one thing, but identity theft is still a much more prevalent, and serious problem.
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1/7/2013 10:02:49 AM
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At 1/7/2013 9:43:11 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:41:53 AM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:19:27 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:09:41 AM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
This is rather ambitious for a group that hasn't actually done anything...

Um, what? Anonymous has done a ton . . .

If by a "ton" you mean pissing off Scientologists and screwing around with government websites, then sure, they've done a ton.

"In April 2012, Anonymous hacked 485 Chinese government websites, some more than once, to protest the lack of democracy"

And we all know how much democracy China now has...

They've done a great job exposing rapists who otherwise were not being tried by law enforcement. They also took out a major child pornography website that was hidden in the Deep Web.

They've also blamed the wrong guy a couple times.

Besides, there's a pretty big gap between deleting kiddie porn and taking down a branch of the UN. Who knows, maybe they can do it, but I won't hold my breath.
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1/7/2013 10:04:43 AM
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At 1/7/2013 9:51:18 AM, Franz_Reynard wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:48:25 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:46:52 AM, Franz_Reynard wrote:
So, then is it stupid or something to believe that someone isn't serious about something if they announce their intention to do so publicly beforehand?

No.

Okay, because I seem to be the only one directly approaching the OP, with this opinion, and I'm being ignored, so I just thought I'd ask.

How do we feel about internet vigilantes, anyway? It's nice that they're stealing organizations' private information and exposing them when they seem dubious, but why don't they take it a step further and protect from other hackers, as well?

I mean, Bank of America is one thing, but identity theft is still a much more prevalent, and serious problem.

It's because you're new. I'd explain further, but I've already said too much.
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1/7/2013 10:16:43 AM
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At 1/7/2013 10:04:43 AM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:51:18 AM, Franz_Reynard wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:48:25 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:46:52 AM, Franz_Reynard wrote:
So, then is it stupid or something to believe that someone isn't serious about something if they announce their intention to do so publicly beforehand?

No.

Okay, because I seem to be the only one directly approaching the OP, with this opinion, and I'm being ignored, so I just thought I'd ask.

How do we feel about internet vigilantes, anyway? It's nice that they're stealing organizations' private information and exposing them when they seem dubious, but why don't they take it a step further and protect from other hackers, as well?

I mean, Bank of America is one thing, but identity theft is still a much more prevalent, and serious problem.

It's because you're new. I'd explain further, but I've already said too much.

Weren't you all new at one point?

I'm confused. Should I just go somewhere else for decent conversation?
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1/7/2013 10:18:16 AM
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At 1/7/2013 9:51:18 AM, Franz_Reynard wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:48:25 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:46:52 AM, Franz_Reynard wrote:
So, then is it stupid or something to believe that someone isn't serious about something if they announce their intention to do so publicly beforehand?

No.

Okay, because I seem to be the only one directly approaching the OP, with this opinion, and I'm being ignored, so I just thought I'd ask.

How do we feel about internet vigilantes, anyway? It's nice that they're stealing organizations' private information and exposing them when they seem dubious, but why don't they take it a step further and protect from other hackers, as well?

I mean, Bank of America is one thing, but identity theft is still a much more prevalent, and serious problem.

Um, on what basis are you claiming that identity theft is a more serious problem than governmental and corporate tyranny? Even if it was, Anonymous isn't your internet security firm. Hacktivists focus on issues that interest them; condemning them for not focusing on other issues is like asking an oncologist why she isn't a cardiologist. Given that hackers helped the FBI capture members of LulzSec, I'm sure that there are cyber vigilantes who take down cybercriminal rings.
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1/7/2013 10:22:06 AM
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At 1/7/2013 10:02:49 AM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:43:11 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:41:53 AM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:19:27 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:09:41 AM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
This is rather ambitious for a group that hasn't actually done anything...

Um, what? Anonymous has done a ton . . .

If by a "ton" you mean pissing off Scientologists and screwing around with government websites, then sure, they've done a ton.

"In April 2012, Anonymous hacked 485 Chinese government websites, some more than once, to protest the lack of democracy"

And we all know how much democracy China now has...

They've done a great job exposing rapists who otherwise were not being tried by law enforcement. They also took out a major child pornography website that was hidden in the Deep Web.

They've also blamed the wrong guy a couple times.

Examples, please?

Even if this were the case, I don't see why this makes them evil. Do you know how many times states have wrongfully punished innocent people, and have even executed them, for crimes that they did not commit? I'm not saying that it's ok for them to blame the wrong people, but I don't see why this makes them incompetent.
Besides, there's a pretty big gap between deleting kiddie porn and taking down a branch of the UN. Who knows, maybe they can do it, but I won't hold my breath.

I'm down with waiting and watching.
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1/7/2013 10:22:54 AM
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At 1/7/2013 10:18:16 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:51:18 AM, Franz_Reynard wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:48:25 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:46:52 AM, Franz_Reynard wrote:
So, then is it stupid or something to believe that someone isn't serious about something if they announce their intention to do so publicly beforehand?

No.

Okay, because I seem to be the only one directly approaching the OP, with this opinion, and I'm being ignored, so I just thought I'd ask.

How do we feel about internet vigilantes, anyway? It's nice that they're stealing organizations' private information and exposing them when they seem dubious, but why don't they take it a step further and protect from other hackers, as well?

I mean, Bank of America is one thing, but identity theft is still a much more prevalent, and serious problem.

Um, on what basis are you claiming that identity theft is a more serious problem than governmental and corporate tyranny? Even if it was, Anonymous isn't your internet security firm. Hacktivists focus on issues that interest them; condemning them for not focusing on other issues is like asking an oncologist why she isn't a cardiologist. Given that hackers helped the FBI capture members of LulzSec, I'm sure that there are cyber vigilantes who take down cybercriminal rings.

Identity theft is a more serious problem based on the direct damage it does and the amount of people that it affects at any given time. Extortion is one thing, but cleaning you out and stealing who you are is a different ballpark.

In any case, if Anonymous is not "my security firm," then I prefer that such activities were by "security firms" rather then people with vested interests that may not be my own, achieved by means that leave me vulnerable.
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1/7/2013 10:28:09 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/7/2013 10:22:54 AM, Franz_Reynard wrote:
At 1/7/2013 10:18:16 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:51:18 AM, Franz_Reynard wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:48:25 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:46:52 AM, Franz_Reynard wrote:
So, then is it stupid or something to believe that someone isn't serious about something if they announce their intention to do so publicly beforehand?

No.

Okay, because I seem to be the only one directly approaching the OP, with this opinion, and I'm being ignored, so I just thought I'd ask.

How do we feel about internet vigilantes, anyway? It's nice that they're stealing organizations' private information and exposing them when they seem dubious, but why don't they take it a step further and protect from other hackers, as well?

I mean, Bank of America is one thing, but identity theft is still a much more prevalent, and serious problem.

Um, on what basis are you claiming that identity theft is a more serious problem than governmental and corporate tyranny? Even if it was, Anonymous isn't your internet security firm. Hacktivists focus on issues that interest them; condemning them for not focusing on other issues is like asking an oncologist why she isn't a cardiologist. Given that hackers helped the FBI capture members of LulzSec, I'm sure that there are cyber vigilantes who take down cybercriminal rings.

Identity theft is a more serious problem based on the direct damage it does and the amount of people that it affects at any given time. Extortion is one thing, but cleaning you out and stealing who you are is a different ballpark.

Governmental and corporate tyranny is more widespread and fleeces people out of more money than identity theft does on an annual basis. Governmental and corporate tyranny have led to the deaths of uncountable numbers of people. These problems are far more pervasive than identity theft. Identity theft is also a problem, however.
In any case, if Anonymous is not "my security firm," then I prefer that such activities were by "security firms" rather then people with vested interests that may not be my own, achieved by means that leave me vulnerable.

How does exposing rapists that the government refuses to punish, leaking documents that expose governmental practices that jeopardize the security of the American people and highlight the murders of journalists that the government conducted and covered up, protecting you from fraudulent bank practices in which documents and forged to leave you penniless, without a credit score, and homeless, etc. make you vulnerable? Are you a rapist, a murderer, or an individual who is participating in these schemes? Your security firm does not have your interests in mind. Your bank does not have your interests in mind, else it wouldn't be destroying people's lives in a manner that is worse than identity theft.
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1/7/2013 10:40:06 AM
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Heres what Anonymous is threatening to destroy

http://en.wikipedia.org...
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1/7/2013 10:56:25 AM
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At 1/7/2013 10:40:06 AM, imabench wrote:
Heres what Anonymous is threatening to destroy

http://en.wikipedia.org...

How the fcuk is Anon able to even hurt that? UN doesn't have good protection?
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1/7/2013 1:57:20 PM
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At 1/7/2013 10:56:25 AM, AmericanNazi wrote:
At 1/7/2013 10:40:06 AM, imabench wrote:
Heres what Anonymous is threatening to destroy

http://en.wikipedia.org...

How the fcuk is Anon able to even hurt that? UN doesn't have good protection?

Good protection =/= Perfect protection
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1/7/2013 6:14:29 PM
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At 1/7/2013 9:43:11 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:41:53 AM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:19:27 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/7/2013 9:09:41 AM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
This is rather ambitious for a group that hasn't actually done anything...

Um, what? Anonymous has done a ton . . .

If by a "ton" you mean pissing off Scientologists and screwing around with government websites, then sure, they've done a ton.

"In April 2012, Anonymous hacked 485 Chinese government websites, some more than once, to protest the lack of democracy"

And we all know how much democracy China now has...

They've done a great job exposing rapists who otherwise were not being tried by law enforcement. They also took out a major child pornography website that was hidden in the Deep Web.

No one has proven they are rapists!
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