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1/29/2014 8:57:29 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com...

Personally, im rooting for him, and I think this is good news.
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1/29/2014 8:58:16 PM
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At 1/29/2014 8:57:29 PM, imabench wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com...

Personally, im rooting for him, and I think this is good news.

Sorry--he can rot in hell.
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1/29/2014 9:08:29 PM
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At 1/29/2014 8:57:29 PM, imabench wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com...

Personally, im rooting for him, and I think this is good news.

I love it.
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1/29/2014 9:20:04 PM
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At 1/29/2014 9:08:29 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 1/29/2014 8:57:29 PM, imabench wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com...

Personally, im rooting for him, and I think this is good news.

I love it.

Why?
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1/29/2014 9:23:19 PM
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Being nominated is not that big of a deal, especially when done as a political point, rather than an honest point.

second, the guy is a laughable hypocrite. Outs US secrets claiming that it is immoral for a government to spy on its people, then goes and hides in Russia, the beacon of personal liberties, lol.
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1/29/2014 9:25:09 PM
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At 1/29/2014 9:23:19 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Being nominated is not that big of a deal, especially when done as a political point, rather than an honest point.

second, the guy is a laughable hypocrite. Outs US secrets claiming that it is immoral for a government to spy on its people, then goes and hides in Russia, the beacon of personal liberties, lol.
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1/29/2014 9:46:29 PM
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At 1/29/2014 9:23:19 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Being nominated is not that big of a deal, especially when done as a political point, rather than an honest point.

second, the guy is a laughable hypocrite. Outs US secrets claiming that it is immoral for a government to spy on its people, then goes and hides in Russia, the beacon of personal liberties, lol.

More than likely a double agent.
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1/29/2014 11:13:15 PM
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At 1/29/2014 9:46:29 PM, wrichcirw wrote:
At 1/29/2014 9:23:19 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Being nominated is not that big of a deal, especially when done as a political point, rather than an honest point.

second, the guy is a laughable hypocrite. Outs US secrets claiming that it is immoral for a government to spy on its people, then goes and hides in Russia, the beacon of personal liberties, lol.

More than likely a double agent.
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1/31/2014 4:14:20 PM
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Going to Russia was fairly intelligent on his part, actually. He had to go to a country he knew wouldn't return him to the US if asked, yet I'm sure he wanted a country where he'd be treated decently.
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2/1/2014 4:07:52 AM
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At 1/31/2014 4:46:58 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Edward Snowden: Claims to care so much about Americans... endangers them by giving American secrets to whoever will listen.
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2/4/2014 10:58:16 PM
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Edward Snowden is an American hero. Anyone care to argue?
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2/5/2014 3:37:04 AM
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At 1/29/2014 9:23:19 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Being nominated is not that big of a deal, especially when done as a political point, rather than an honest point.

second, the guy is a laughable hypocrite. Outs US secrets claiming that it is immoral for a government to spy on its people, then goes and hides in Russia, the beacon of personal liberties, lol.

What part of fleeing to Russia makes him a hypocrite? He has a regime chasing after him across the globe, with people who want him dead or imprisoned for life for pointing out their abuse of power. Where do you expect him to go, to an ally of such a nation? Ridiculous.

Snowden is an American hero. When authority steps out of line, it is necessary for it's people to whip it back into shape. To claim that he is a traitor for exposing the illegal, corrupt actions of the establishment is what's a ridiculous argument. That has no logical consistency to it. The traitors are the ones who broke the law, and then warped the system so as to ensure no one would know they broke the law and violated our rights. Not the one who exposes their deceit and corruption. Perhaps you can call Snowden a traitor to the American government. But the government then has been a traitor to it's people, and Snowden the hero of it's people. And that's all that matters.

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2/7/2014 10:40:05 AM
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Well,, there is too much speculation about him negative also.
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2/7/2014 3:52:41 PM
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At 2/4/2014 10:58:16 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
Edward Snowden is an American hero. Anyone care to argue?

How can you be a hero when you jeopardize the safety of the people you claim to be championing? He would only be a "hero" if he had stayed and done his whistle blower duties here in the United States and didn't sell our secrets to Russia and China and who knows who else.
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2/7/2014 3:57:09 PM
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At 1/31/2014 4:46:58 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Edward Snowden: Claims to care so much about Americans... endangers them by giving American secrets to whoever will listen.

How did he endanger them exactly?
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2/7/2014 4:03:10 PM
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At 2/7/2014 3:52:41 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 2/4/2014 10:58:16 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
Edward Snowden is an American hero. Anyone care to argue?

How can you be a hero when you jeopardize the safety of the people you claim to be championing? He would only be a "hero" if he had stayed and done his whistle blower duties here in the United States and didn't sell our secrets to Russia and China and who knows who else.

He didn't sell our secrets to anyone. He blew the whistle and fled the country because they are trying to convict him of treason and execute him. He didn't gain anything from doing what he did, and he sure as he'll didn't jeopardize anyone's safety besides his own.
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2/7/2014 4:24:38 PM
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At 2/7/2014 4:03:10 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 2/7/2014 3:52:41 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 2/4/2014 10:58:16 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
Edward Snowden is an American hero. Anyone care to argue?

How can you be a hero when you jeopardize the safety of the people you claim to be championing? He would only be a "hero" if he had stayed and done his whistle blower duties here in the United States and didn't sell our secrets to Russia and China and who knows who else.

He didn't sell our secrets to anyone. He blew the whistle and fled the country because they are trying to convict him of treason and execute him. He didn't gain anything from doing what he did, and he sure as he'll didn't jeopardize anyone's safety besides his own.

*facepalm*

That is one of the most ignorant things I've heard said on the subject.

1. You can't be convicted of treason unless you've aided the enemy. So either he aided the enemy with our secrets or your claim is false.

2. He did sell secrets. He released documents all over the world about how the United States conducts it's intelligence operations.

http://www.forbes.com...
http://news.yahoo.com...
http://nationalreport.net...

He's selling them to foreign agencies. If you believe anything else you're just kidding yourself. And if he does endanger Americans with this information then he is committing treason. He knows that.
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2/7/2014 4:26:22 PM
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At 2/7/2014 3:57:09 PM, Noumena wrote:
At 1/31/2014 4:46:58 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Edward Snowden: Claims to care so much about Americans... endangers them by giving American secrets to whoever will listen.

How did he endanger them exactly?

By giving foreign nations information about how we conduct intelligence internationally.

This could do a number of things...

Hamper international relations.
Hurt alliances.
Give nations ideas or methods to thwart, deceive or block our intelligence.
Give nations methods to gather their own intelligence within the United States.

In this day and age information is everything.
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2/7/2014 4:32:30 PM
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At 2/7/2014 4:26:22 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 2/7/2014 3:57:09 PM, Noumena wrote:
At 1/31/2014 4:46:58 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Edward Snowden: Claims to care so much about Americans... endangers them by giving American secrets to whoever will listen.

How did he endanger them exactly?

By giving foreign nations information about how we conduct intelligence internationally.

This could do a number of things...

Hamper international relations.
Hurt alliances.
Give nations ideas or methods to thwart, deceive or block our intelligence.

What ideas and methods specifically?

Give nations methods to gather their own intelligence within the United States.

In this day and age information is everything.

Unless it's the information of everyday people in which case there's no use in fussing.
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2/7/2014 4:53:15 PM
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At 1/29/2014 8:58:16 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 1/29/2014 8:57:29 PM, imabench wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com...

Personally, im rooting for him, and I think this is good news.

Sorry--he can rot in hell.

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2/7/2014 6:34:51 PM
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At 2/7/2014 4:24:38 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 2/7/2014 4:03:10 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 2/7/2014 3:52:41 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 2/4/2014 10:58:16 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
Edward Snowden is an American hero. Anyone care to argue?

How can you be a hero when you jeopardize the safety of the people you claim to be championing? He would only be a "hero" if he had stayed and done his whistle blower duties here in the United States and didn't sell our secrets to Russia and China and who knows who else.

He didn't sell our secrets to anyone. He blew the whistle and fled the country because they are trying to convict him of treason and execute him. He didn't gain anything from doing what he did, and he sure as he'll didn't jeopardize anyone's safety besides his own.

*facepalm*

That is one of the most ignorant things I've heard said on the subject.

1. You can't be convicted of treason unless you've aided the enemy. So either he aided the enemy with our secrets or your claim is false.

Source?
The accusation is false, he has not aided the enemy. They will convict him regardless, because he spired them.


2. He did sell secrets. He released documents all over the world about how the United States conducts it's intelligence operations.

He released documents illustrating a criminal act of the government to two newspapers, and even then only after American media turned him away. Second he never sold anything to anyone, it was a whistleblow. As I said, he is a hero who sacrificed his life, as it were, I'm order to hold our transgressive government to the principles upon which it was established. That is about as pro-American as it gets.


http://www.forbes.com...
http://news.yahoo.com...
http://nationalreport.net...

The first two clearly state that he gave documents to the press, not the government. Meaning, he released them to the public. Hero. Not traitor.

As for your third source, now I know what kind of idiot you are, if this where you get your info from. Just to illustrate how unreliable this ultra conservative propaganda publication is, here is a copy of there disclaimer:

*DISCLAIMER: The views expressed by writers on this site are theirs alone and are not reflective of the fine journalistic and editorial integrity of National Report. Advice given is NOT to be construed as professional. If you are in need of professional help, please consult a professional. National Report is not intended for children under the age of 18.

He's selling them to foreign agencies. If you believe anything else you're just kidding yourself. And if he does endanger Americans with this information then he is committing treason. He knows that.
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2/19/2014 12:39:20 AM
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Edward Snowden will be one of scores of names being considered by the Nobel prize committee. He is nominated and surely will win..Good wishes to him...
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6/4/2014 5:40:19 PM
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At 2/19/2014 12:39:20 AM, kiryasjoelvillage wrote:
Edward Snowden will be one of scores of names being considered by the Nobel prize committee. He is nominated and surely will win..Good wishes to him...

Well, one good sign is that Greenwald and Laura Poitras (filmmaker) already got the Pulitzer.. which is the next best thing, right?