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Amanda Knox convicted after third trial

bluesteel
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2/2/2014 9:12:13 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
For anyone who hasn't followed the details of this case, it's fascinating. I think she's obviously innocent, and most other American law enforcement officials seem to agree (http://www.injusticeinperugia.org...), but most Italians are absolutely convinced she is guilty.

For anyone not familiar with the case, Knox's roommate was murdered by a burglar who she surprised mid-burglary when she came home. He stabbed her, had sex with her corpse, then fled the country. Italian police, instead of chasing this guy, tried very hard to pin the murder on Knox and her boyfriend and have been mostly successful so far.

The next step is extradition, which I think the State Department should oppose, given that the Italian justice system violated our Double Jeopardy protections by trying her three times (even though she was acquitted once by a court of appeals).

What do you guys think? Is she guilty? Should she be extradited?
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2/2/2014 9:21:40 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/2/2014 9:12:13 PM, bluesteel wrote:
For anyone who hasn't followed the details of this case, it's fascinating. I think she's obviously innocent, and most other American law enforcement officials seem to agree (http://www.injusticeinperugia.org...), but most Italians are absolutely convinced she is guilty.

For anyone not familiar with the case, Knox's roommate was murdered by a burglar who she surprised mid-burglary when she came home. He stabbed her, had sex with her corpse, then fled the country. Italian police, instead of chasing this guy, tried very hard to pin the murder on Knox and her boyfriend and have been mostly successful so far.

The next step is extradition, which I think the State Department should oppose, given that the Italian justice system violated our Double Jeopardy protections by trying her three times (even though she was acquitted once by a court of appeals).

What do you guys think? Is she guilty? Should she be extradited?

I can't imagine that she would be extradited. I certainly don't think she should be, and I would be shocked if the idea is even humored by the authorities.

This whole thing is just getting ridiculous. Guilty or not, the idea that she can be tried infinitely until found guilty is just insane. She was found innocent, it's time for the Italians to move on.
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airmax1227
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2/2/2014 9:22:55 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I should say, found 'not guilty'.

But either way the Italian system seems to have some issues.

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2/2/2014 9:48:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
That is a mess. Kerry won't extradite her--it's obvious that the trial is unreliable, and Kerry has no real reason to grant the request.
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2/2/2014 10:01:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/2/2014 9:48:57 PM, bsh1 wrote:
That is a mess. Kerry won't extradite her--it's obvious that the trial is unreliable, and Kerry has no real reason to grant the request.

Except inconvenient extradition treaties...

http://www.mcnabbassociates.com...

I don't think that she will ever be returned simply because of how political this has all become, but I am still nearly convinced that she won't be returned because of how much of a farce Italian courts are, in tandem with the domestic political cost associated with honoring the extradition treaty.
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2/2/2014 10:02:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/2/2014 10:01:30 PM, YYW wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:48:57 PM, bsh1 wrote:
That is a mess. Kerry won't extradite her--it's obvious that the trial is unreliable, and Kerry has no real reason to grant the request.

I don't think that she will ever be returned simply because of how political this has all become, but I am still nearly convinced that she won't be returned because of how much of a farce Italian courts are, in tandem with the domestic political cost associated with honoring the extradition treaty.

Exactly.
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2/2/2014 10:03:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/2/2014 10:02:17 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/2/2014 10:01:30 PM, YYW wrote:
At 2/2/2014 9:48:57 PM, bsh1 wrote:
That is a mess. Kerry won't extradite her--it's obvious that the trial is unreliable, and Kerry has no real reason to grant the request.

I don't think that she will ever be returned simply because of how political this has all become, but I am still nearly convinced that she won't be returned because of how much of a farce Italian courts are, in tandem with the domestic political cost associated with honoring the extradition treaty.

Exactly.

But still, the US has a real reason to return her...

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2/3/2014 1:45:50 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Don't they still have an appeal to the highest court? I would imagine any possible extradition won't get started until after that.

But the lesson we learn here is that the Italian Justice system is weird.
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