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Larry Hogan is Leading the Gubernatorial Race

bsh1
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11/1/2014 10:47:43 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I was happy to vote Democrat for Governor. Brown is a fool, but Hogan is even worse. I really wanted Mizeur to win the Democratic Primary...sadly, and as anticipated, Brown crushed.
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11/2/2014 9:53:12 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/1/2014 10:47:43 PM, bsh1 wrote:
I was happy to vote Democrat for Governor. Brown is a fool, but Hogan is even worse. I really wanted Mizeur to win the Democratic Primary...sadly, and as anticipated, Brown crushed.

How, in you opinion, would electing Hogan hurt Maryland? The legislature is already gerrymandered to always result in a Democratic supermajority, so basically anything he proposed can and will be overridden by the legislature.
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11/2/2014 9:57:24 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/1/2014 1:10:08 PM, Haroush wrote:
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This is really shocking. People don't talk about Maryland when they talk about safe blue states, but Maryland is far more Democratic than any Northeastern state. There have been virtually no statewide Republican officers in the past 50 years, so the fact this is close should say something about how bad the national environment is for Democrats at this point.
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11/2/2014 9:57:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/2/2014 9:53:12 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 11/1/2014 10:47:43 PM, bsh1 wrote:
I was happy to vote Democrat for Governor. Brown is a fool, but Hogan is even worse. I really wanted Mizeur to win the Democratic Primary...sadly, and as anticipated, Brown crushed.

How, in you opinion, would electing Hogan hurt Maryland? The legislature is already gerrymandered to always result in a Democratic supermajority, so basically anything he proposed can and will be overridden by the legislature.

The legislature and the governor need to be able to cooperate. The Ehrlich administration proved that--despite the present of a supermajority, on the more controversial issues, the veto power matters.
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11/2/2014 10:02:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/2/2014 9:57:36 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/2/2014 9:53:12 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 11/1/2014 10:47:43 PM, bsh1 wrote:
I was happy to vote Democrat for Governor. Brown is a fool, but Hogan is even worse. I really wanted Mizeur to win the Democratic Primary...sadly, and as anticipated, Brown crushed.

How, in you opinion, would electing Hogan hurt Maryland? The legislature is already gerrymandered to always result in a Democratic supermajority, so basically anything he proposed can and will be overridden by the legislature.

The legislature and the governor need to be able to cooperate. The Ehrlich administration proved that--despite the present of a supermajority, on the more controversial issues, the veto power matters.

I can understand that argument - my state had that problem with a supermajority Republican legislature and a liberal Democratic governor. The problem was the two were completely at odds and unable to work together.

But, in Maryland, who's to say they can't cooperate? Hogan seems to be fairly moderate and willing to cooperate with the legislature. In order to pass anything or get re-elected he'd need their support. Pragmatic Republican governors have worked very effectively in Massachusetts.
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11/2/2014 10:17:27 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/2/2014 10:02:36 PM, TN05 wrote:

But, in Maryland, who's to say they can't cooperate? Hogan seems to be fairly moderate and willing to cooperate with the legislature. In order to pass anything or get re-elected he'd need their support. Pragmatic Republican governors have worked very effectively in Massachusetts.

Well, because that's what happened with the Ehrlich administration--a Republican governor and a Democratic legislature just could not work effectively together. History seems to indicate that it is not workable in Maryland, and least in this era.

I mean, I did vote Republican for County Executive, but I feel that in my county, the culture is different than it is for the whole State.
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11/2/2014 10:33:37 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/2/2014 10:17:27 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/2/2014 10:02:36 PM, TN05 wrote:

But, in Maryland, who's to say they can't cooperate? Hogan seems to be fairly moderate and willing to cooperate with the legislature. In order to pass anything or get re-elected he'd need their support. Pragmatic Republican governors have worked very effectively in Massachusetts.

Well, because that's what happened with the Ehrlich administration--a Republican governor and a Democratic legislature just could not work effectively together. History seems to indicate that it is not workable in Maryland, and least in this era.

Fair enough.

I mean, I did vote Republican for County Executive, but I feel that in my county, the culture is different than it is for the whole State.

That's interesting - you're obviously very liberal, so I wouldn't expect you to vote for a Republican at any level.
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11/2/2014 10:34:45 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/2/2014 10:33:37 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 11/2/2014 10:17:27 PM, bsh1 wrote:
I mean, I did vote Republican for County Executive, but I feel that in my county, the culture is different than it is for the whole State.

That's interesting - you're obviously very liberal, so I wouldn't expect you to vote for a Republican at any level.

I will vote Republican if, and only if, I find the Democratic wholly unsuitable (i.e. has no redeeming features.)
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11/2/2014 10:36:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/2/2014 10:34:45 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 11/2/2014 10:33:37 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 11/2/2014 10:17:27 PM, bsh1 wrote:
I mean, I did vote Republican for County Executive, but I feel that in my county, the culture is different than it is for the whole State.

That's interesting - you're obviously very liberal, so I wouldn't expect you to vote for a Republican at any level.

I will vote Republican if, and only if, I find the Democratic wholly unsuitable (i.e. has no redeeming features.)

That's what I was guessing. That's fine, I probably take a similar stance (just reversed, obviously).
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