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7/31/2010 6:54:34 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/30/2010 10:58:46 AM, cjl wrote:
Good? Bad? Necesary?

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com...

Bad. Why test human stem cells on mice? Wtf?!! Test it on humans that would need it, not just random mice! wtf...

If they did it right then it would be a good thing tho.
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7/31/2010 8:24:45 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/31/2010 6:54:34 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/30/2010 10:58:46 AM, cjl wrote:
Good? Bad? Necesary?

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com...

Bad. Why test human stem cells on mice? Wtf?!! Test it on humans that would need it, not just random mice! wtf...

If they did it right then it would be a good thing tho.

Humans > Mice

I'd rather a million dead mice than a dead human.
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7/31/2010 8:30:49 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/31/2010 8:24:45 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 6:54:34 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/30/2010 10:58:46 AM, cjl wrote:
Good? Bad? Necesary?

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com...

Bad. Why test human stem cells on mice? Wtf?!! Test it on humans that would need it, not just random mice! wtf...

If they did it right then it would be a good thing tho.

Humans > Mice

I'd rather a million dead mice than a dead human.

Your messed up.
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7/31/2010 8:32:37 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/31/2010 8:30:49 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:24:45 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 6:54:34 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/30/2010 10:58:46 AM, cjl wrote:
Good? Bad? Necesary?

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com...

Bad. Why test human stem cells on mice? Wtf?!! Test it on humans that would need it, not just random mice! wtf...

If they did it right then it would be a good thing tho.

Humans > Mice

I'd rather a million dead mice than a dead human.

Your messed up.

Eh, no, you are if you value mice more than humans.
Pizza. I have enormous respect for Pizza.
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7/31/2010 8:36:59 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/31/2010 8:32:37 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:30:49 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:24:45 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 6:54:34 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/30/2010 10:58:46 AM, cjl wrote:
Good? Bad? Necesary?

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com...

Bad. Why test human stem cells on mice? Wtf?!! Test it on humans that would need it, not just random mice! wtf...

If they did it right then it would be a good thing tho.

Humans > Mice

I'd rather a million dead mice than a dead human.

Your messed up.

Eh, no, you are if you value mice more than humans.

Mice aren't destructive like humans.
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7/31/2010 8:40:31 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/31/2010 8:36:59 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:32:37 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:30:49 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:24:45 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 6:54:34 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/30/2010 10:58:46 AM, cjl wrote:
Good? Bad? Necesary?

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com...

Bad. Why test human stem cells on mice? Wtf?!! Test it on humans that would need it, not just random mice! wtf...

If they did it right then it would be a good thing tho.

Humans > Mice

I'd rather a million dead mice than a dead human.

Your messed up.

Eh, no, you are if you value mice more than humans.

Mice aren't destructive like humans.

So? I can ask a Human if it wants to die, and it'll prolly say no. Can't do the same with mouse. See Ragnar for the argument abotu animal rights.

I'm pretty sure you'd kill many mice as possible if a loved one was sick with a disease curable by Stem Cell research.
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7/31/2010 8:48:37 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/31/2010 8:40:31 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:36:59 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:32:37 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:30:49 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:24:45 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 6:54:34 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/30/2010 10:58:46 AM, cjl wrote:
Good? Bad? Necesary?

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com...

Bad. Why test human stem cells on mice? Wtf?!! Test it on humans that would need it, not just random mice! wtf...

If they did it right then it would be a good thing tho.

Humans > Mice

I'd rather a million dead mice than a dead human.

Your messed up.

Eh, no, you are if you value mice more than humans.

Mice aren't destructive like humans.

So? I can ask a Human if it wants to die, and it'll prolly say no. Can't do the same with mouse. See Ragnar for the argument abotu animal rights.


I agree with mom about Ragnar, he's psychotic. (no offense to anyone plz don't suicide bomb me ragnar)
Mice don't want to die either, and actually your just proving my point.

I'm pretty sure you'd kill many mice as possible if a loved one was sick with a disease curable by Stem Cell research.

Not really. Death is a natural thing and people should stop interfering with it. Survival of the fittest. The way technology keeps going will prolly lead to even more things that can't be cured. See the thread about what we will evolve to for more details.
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7/31/2010 8:53:17 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/31/2010 8:48:37 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:40:31 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:36:59 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:32:37 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:30:49 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:24:45 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 6:54:34 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/30/2010 10:58:46 AM, cjl wrote:
Good? Bad? Necesary?

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com...

Bad. Why test human stem cells on mice? Wtf?!! Test it on humans that would need it, not just random mice! wtf...

If they did it right then it would be a good thing tho.

Humans > Mice

I'd rather a million dead mice than a dead human.

Your messed up.

Eh, no, you are if you value mice more than humans.

Mice aren't destructive like humans.

So? I can ask a Human if it wants to die, and it'll prolly say no. Can't do the same with mouse. See Ragnar for the argument abotu animal rights.


I agree with mom about Ragnar, he's psychotic. (no offense to anyone plz don't suicide bomb me ragnar)
Mice don't want to die either, and actually your just proving my point.

Rights only exist when both parties can acknowledge them.


I'm pretty sure you'd kill many mice as possible if a loved one was sick with a disease curable by Stem Cell research.

Not really. Death is a natural thing and people should stop interfering with it. Survival of the fittest. The way technology keeps going will prolly lead to even more things that can't be cured. See the thread about what we will evolve to for more details.

Survival of the fittest from someone who wants to protect cute, defenceless animals. Hypocrite.
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7/31/2010 8:55:17 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/31/2010 8:53:17 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:48:37 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:40:31 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:36:59 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:32:37 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:30:49 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:24:45 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 6:54:34 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/30/2010 10:58:46 AM, cjl wrote:
Good? Bad? Necesary?

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com...

Bad. Why test human stem cells on mice? Wtf?!! Test it on humans that would need it, not just random mice! wtf...

If they did it right then it would be a good thing tho.

Humans > Mice

I'd rather a million dead mice than a dead human.

Your messed up.

Eh, no, you are if you value mice more than humans.

Mice aren't destructive like humans.

So? I can ask a Human if it wants to die, and it'll prolly say no. Can't do the same with mouse. See Ragnar for the argument abotu animal rights.


I agree with mom about Ragnar, he's psychotic. (no offense to anyone plz don't suicide bomb me ragnar)
Mice don't want to die either, and actually your just proving my point.

Rights only exist when both parties can acknowledge them.


Which is why humans need to aknowlage them.


I'm pretty sure you'd kill many mice as possible if a loved one was sick with a disease curable by Stem Cell research.

Not really. Death is a natural thing and people should stop interfering with it. Survival of the fittest. The way technology keeps going will prolly lead to even more things that can't be cured. See the thread about what we will evolve to for more details.

Survival of the fittest from someone who wants to protect cute, defenceless animals. Hypocrite.

No I'm not. I don't mind natural hunting or any of that killing for valid food reasons. I hate mars now. I used to love their candy, now even seeing it makes me want to kill someone.
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7/31/2010 8:58:24 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/31/2010 8:55:17 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:53:17 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:48:37 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:40:31 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:36:59 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:32:37 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:30:49 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:24:45 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 6:54:34 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/30/2010 10:58:46 AM, cjl wrote:
Good? Bad? Necesary?

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com...

Bad. Why test human stem cells on mice? Wtf?!! Test it on humans that would need it, not just random mice! wtf...

If they did it right then it would be a good thing tho.

Humans > Mice

I'd rather a million dead mice than a dead human.

Your messed up.

Eh, no, you are if you value mice more than humans.

Mice aren't destructive like humans.

So? I can ask a Human if it wants to die, and it'll prolly say no. Can't do the same with mouse. See Ragnar for the argument abotu animal rights.


I agree with mom about Ragnar, he's psychotic. (no offense to anyone plz don't suicide bomb me ragnar)
Mice don't want to die either, and actually your just proving my point.

Rights only exist when both parties can acknowledge them.


Which is why humans need to aknowlage them.

Mice can't acknowledge them.



I'm pretty sure you'd kill many mice as possible if a loved one was sick with a disease curable by Stem Cell research.

Not really. Death is a natural thing and people should stop interfering with it. Survival of the fittest. The way technology keeps going will prolly lead to even more things that can't be cured. See the thread about what we will evolve to for more details.

Survival of the fittest from someone who wants to protect cute, defenceless animals. Hypocrite.

No I'm not. I don't mind natural hunting or any of that killing for valid food reasons. I hate mars now. I used to love their candy, now even seeing it makes me want to kill someone.

A mouse can't protect itself. If I kill it it's because I'm superior through survival of the fittest, and am reaping the rewards of my species evolution. Either you believe in survival of the fittest or you don't . Don't have double standards that animals need to be protected through laws because they're inferior but at the same time it's fair game to kill them for meat.
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7/31/2010 9:01:40 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/31/2010 8:58:24 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:55:17 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:53:17 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:48:37 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:40:31 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:36:59 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:32:37 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:30:49 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:24:45 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 6:54:34 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/30/2010 10:58:46 AM, cjl wrote:
Good? Bad? Necesary?

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com...

Bad. Why test human stem cells on mice? Wtf?!! Test it on humans that would need it, not just random mice! wtf...

If they did it right then it would be a good thing tho.

Humans > Mice

I'd rather a million dead mice than a dead human.

Your messed up.

Eh, no, you are if you value mice more than humans.

Mice aren't destructive like humans.

So? I can ask a Human if it wants to die, and it'll prolly say no. Can't do the same with mouse. See Ragnar for the argument abotu animal rights.


I agree with mom about Ragnar, he's psychotic. (no offense to anyone plz don't suicide bomb me ragnar)
Mice don't want to die either, and actually your just proving my point.

Rights only exist when both parties can acknowledge them.


Which is why humans need to aknowlage them.

Mice can't acknowledge them.


Sure they can.



I'm pretty sure you'd kill many mice as possible if a loved one was sick with a disease curable by Stem Cell research.

Not really. Death is a natural thing and people should stop interfering with it. Survival of the fittest. The way technology keeps going will prolly lead to even more things that can't be cured. See the thread about what we will evolve to for more details.

Survival of the fittest from someone who wants to protect cute, defenceless animals. Hypocrite.

No I'm not. I don't mind natural hunting or any of that killing for valid food reasons. I hate mars now. I used to love their candy, now even seeing it makes me want to kill someone.

A mouse can't protect itself. If I kill it it's because I'm superior through survival of the fittest, and am reaping the rewards of my species evolution. Either you believe in survival of the fittest or you don't . Don't have double standards that animals need to be protected through laws because they're inferior but at the same time it's fair game to kill them for meat.

You apparently have no clue what I'm saying.
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7/31/2010 9:04:21 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/31/2010 9:01:40 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:58:24 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:55:17 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:53:17 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:48:37 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:40:31 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:36:59 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:32:37 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:30:49 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:24:45 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 6:54:34 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/30/2010 10:58:46 AM, cjl wrote:
Good? Bad? Necesary?

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com...

Bad. Why test human stem cells on mice? Wtf?!! Test it on humans that would need it, not just random mice! wtf...

If they did it right then it would be a good thing tho.

Humans > Mice

I'd rather a million dead mice than a dead human.

Your messed up.

Eh, no, you are if you value mice more than humans.

Mice aren't destructive like humans.

So? I can ask a Human if it wants to die, and it'll prolly say no. Can't do the same with mouse. See Ragnar for the argument abotu animal rights.


I agree with mom about Ragnar, he's psychotic. (no offense to anyone plz don't suicide bomb me ragnar)
Mice don't want to die either, and actually your just proving my point.

Rights only exist when both parties can acknowledge them.


Which is why humans need to aknowlage them.

Mice can't acknowledge them.


Sure they can.

They can't. If I tell a mice. "I have a right not to be attacked by you", and they attack me, then they've violated my rights. Of course, they haven't recognised my rights to start with.




I'm pretty sure you'd kill many mice as possible if a loved one was sick with a disease curable by Stem Cell research.

Not really. Death is a natural thing and people should stop interfering with it. Survival of the fittest. The way technology keeps going will prolly lead to even more things that can't be cured. See the thread about what we will evolve to for more details.

Survival of the fittest from someone who wants to protect cute, defenceless animals. Hypocrite.

No I'm not. I don't mind natural hunting or any of that killing for valid food reasons. I hate mars now. I used to love their candy, now even seeing it makes me want to kill someone.

A mouse can't protect itself. If I kill it it's because I'm superior through survival of the fittest, and am reaping the rewards of my species evolution. Either you believe in survival of the fittest or you don't . Don't have double standards that animals need to be protected through laws because they're inferior but at the same time it's fair game to kill them for meat.

You apparently have no clue what I'm saying.

I do.
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7/31/2010 9:11:39 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/31/2010 9:04:21 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 9:01:40 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:58:24 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:55:17 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:53:17 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:48:37 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:40:31 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:36:59 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:32:37 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:30:49 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:24:45 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 6:54:34 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/30/2010 10:58:46 AM, cjl wrote:
Good? Bad? Necesary?

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com...

Bad. Why test human stem cells on mice? Wtf?!! Test it on humans that would need it, not just random mice! wtf...

If they did it right then it would be a good thing tho.

Humans > Mice

I'd rather a million dead mice than a dead human.

Your messed up.

Eh, no, you are if you value mice more than humans.

Mice aren't destructive like humans.

So? I can ask a Human if it wants to die, and it'll prolly say no. Can't do the same with mouse. See Ragnar for the argument abotu animal rights.


I agree with mom about Ragnar, he's psychotic. (no offense to anyone plz don't suicide bomb me ragnar)
Mice don't want to die either, and actually your just proving my point.

Rights only exist when both parties can acknowledge them.


Which is why humans need to aknowlage them.

Mice can't acknowledge them.


Sure they can.

They can't. If I tell a mice. "I have a right not to be attacked by you", and they attack me, then they've violated my rights. Of course, they haven't recognised my rights to start with.


everyone has a right to defend themselves.




I'm pretty sure you'd kill many mice as possible if a loved one was sick with a disease curable by Stem Cell research.

Not really. Death is a natural thing and people should stop interfering with it. Survival of the fittest. The way technology keeps going will prolly lead to even more things that can't be cured. See the thread about what we will evolve to for more details.

Survival of the fittest from someone who wants to protect cute, defenceless animals. Hypocrite.

No I'm not. I don't mind natural hunting or any of that killing for valid food reasons. I hate mars now. I used to love their candy, now even seeing it makes me want to kill someone.

A mouse can't protect itself. If I kill it it's because I'm superior through survival of the fittest, and am reaping the rewards of my species evolution. Either you believe in survival of the fittest or you don't . Don't have double standards that animals need to be protected through laws because they're inferior but at the same time it's fair game to kill them for meat.

You apparently have no clue what I'm saying.

I do.

No you don't.
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7/31/2010 9:14:54 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/31/2010 9:11:39 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 9:04:21 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 9:01:40 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:58:24 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:55:17 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:53:17 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:48:37 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:40:31 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:36:59 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:32:37 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:30:49 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:24:45 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 6:54:34 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/30/2010 10:58:46 AM, cjl wrote:
Good? Bad? Necesary?

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com...

Bad. Why test human stem cells on mice? Wtf?!! Test it on humans that would need it, not just random mice! wtf...

If they did it right then it would be a good thing tho.

Humans > Mice

I'd rather a million dead mice than a dead human.

Your messed up.

Eh, no, you are if you value mice more than humans.

Mice aren't destructive like humans.

So? I can ask a Human if it wants to die, and it'll prolly say no. Can't do the same with mouse. See Ragnar for the argument abotu animal rights.


I agree with mom about Ragnar, he's psychotic. (no offense to anyone plz don't suicide bomb me ragnar)
Mice don't want to die either, and actually your just proving my point.

Rights only exist when both parties can acknowledge them.


Which is why humans need to aknowlage them.

Mice can't acknowledge them.


Sure they can.

They can't. If I tell a mice. "I have a right not to be attacked by you", and they attack me, then they've violated my rights. Of course, they haven't recognised my rights to start with.


everyone has a right to defend themselves.

You clearly don't get the point I'm making. In the same way I can't make a law saying "Animals must respect the environment", I can't give them rights. I can only make such rights and laws in regards to their owners.





I'm pretty sure you'd kill many mice as possible if a loved one was sick with a disease curable by Stem Cell research.

Not really. Death is a natural thing and people should stop interfering with it. Survival of the fittest. The way technology keeps going will prolly lead to even more things that can't be cured. See the thread about what we will evolve to for more details.

Survival of the fittest from someone who wants to protect cute, defenceless animals. Hypocrite.

No I'm not. I don't mind natural hunting or any of that killing for valid food reasons. I hate mars now. I used to love their candy, now even seeing it makes me want to kill someone.

A mouse can't protect itself. If I kill it it's because I'm superior through survival of the fittest, and am reaping the rewards of my species evolution. Either you believe in survival of the fittest or you don't . Don't have double standards that animals need to be protected through laws because they're inferior but at the same time it's fair game to kill them for meat.

You apparently have no clue what I'm saying.

I do.

No you don't.

'Splain then.
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7/31/2010 9:34:15 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/31/2010 9:14:54 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 9:11:39 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 9:04:21 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 9:01:40 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:58:24 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:55:17 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:53:17 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:48:37 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:40:31 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:36:59 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:32:37 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:30:49 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:24:45 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 6:54:34 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/30/2010 10:58:46 AM, cjl wrote:
Good? Bad? Necesary?

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com...

Bad. Why test human stem cells on mice? Wtf?!! Test it on humans that would need it, not just random mice! wtf...

If they did it right then it would be a good thing tho.

Humans > Mice

I'd rather a million dead mice than a dead human.

Your messed up.

Eh, no, you are if you value mice more than humans.

Mice aren't destructive like humans.

So? I can ask a Human if it wants to die, and it'll prolly say no. Can't do the same with mouse. See Ragnar for the argument abotu animal rights.


I agree with mom about Ragnar, he's psychotic. (no offense to anyone plz don't suicide bomb me ragnar)
Mice don't want to die either, and actually your just proving my point.

Rights only exist when both parties can acknowledge them.


Which is why humans need to aknowlage them.

Mice can't acknowledge them.


Sure they can.

They can't. If I tell a mice. "I have a right not to be attacked by you", and they attack me, then they've violated my rights. Of course, they haven't recognised my rights to start with.


everyone has a right to defend themselves.

You clearly don't get the point I'm making. In the same way I can't make a law saying "Animals must respect the environment", I can't give them rights. I can only make such rights and laws in regards to their owners.


Animals shouldn't have owners, maybe human family tho. There should be no laws as they are.





I'm pretty sure you'd kill many mice as possible if a loved one was sick with a disease curable by Stem Cell research.

Not really. Death is a natural thing and people should stop interfering with it. Survival of the fittest. The way technology keeps going will prolly lead to even more things that can't be cured. See the thread about what we will evolve to for more details.

Survival of the fittest from someone who wants to protect cute, defenceless animals. Hypocrite.

No I'm not. I don't mind natural hunting or any of that killing for valid food reasons. I hate mars now. I used to love their candy, now even seeing it makes me want to kill someone.

A mouse can't protect itself. If I kill it it's because I'm superior through survival of the fittest, and am reaping the rewards of my species evolution. Either you believe in survival of the fittest or you don't . Don't have double standards that animals need to be protected through laws because they're inferior but at the same time it's fair game to kill them for meat.

You apparently have no clue what I'm saying.

I do.

No you don't.

'Splain then.

I don't think science is a good thing. At least not the science that tests medicine on animals.
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7/31/2010 11:13:47 AM
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At 7/31/2010 9:34:15 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 9:14:54 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 9:11:39 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 9:04:21 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 9:01:40 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:58:24 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:55:17 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:53:17 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:48:37 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:40:31 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:36:59 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:32:37 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:30:49 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/31/2010 8:24:45 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/31/2010 6:54:34 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/30/2010 10:58:46 AM, cjl wrote:
Good? Bad? Necesary?

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com...

Bad. Why test human stem cells on mice? Wtf?!! Test it on humans that would need it, not just random mice! wtf...

If they did it right then it would be a good thing tho.

Humans > Mice

I'd rather a million dead mice than a dead human.

Your messed up.

Eh, no, you are if you value mice more than humans.

Mice aren't destructive like humans.

So? I can ask a Human if it wants to die, and it'll prolly say no. Can't do the same with mouse. See Ragnar for the argument abotu animal rights.


I agree with mom about Ragnar, he's psychotic. (no offense to anyone plz don't suicide bomb me ragnar)
Mice don't want to die either, and actually your just proving my point.

Rights only exist when both parties can acknowledge them.


Which is why humans need to aknowlage them.

Mice can't acknowledge them.


Sure they can.

They can't. If I tell a mice. "I have a right not to be attacked by you", and they attack me, then they've violated my rights. Of course, they haven't recognised my rights to start with.


everyone has a right to defend themselves.

You clearly don't get the point I'm making. In the same way I can't make a law saying "Animals must respect the environment", I can't give them rights. I can only make such rights and laws in regards to their owners.


Animals shouldn't have owners, maybe human family tho. There should be no laws as they are.

Oh ok, so farmers shouldn't be able to own cattle.

GREAT ECONOMIC LOGIC.






I'm pretty sure you'd kill many mice as possible if a loved one was sick with a disease curable by Stem Cell research.

Not really. Death is a natural thing and people should stop interfering with it. Survival of the fittest. The way technology keeps going will prolly lead to even more things that can't be cured. See the thread about what we will evolve to for more details.

Survival of the fittest from someone who wants to protect cute, defenceless animals. Hypocrite.

No I'm not. I don't mind natural hunting or any of that killing for valid food reasons. I hate mars now. I used to love their candy, now even seeing it makes me want to kill someone.

A mouse can't protect itself. If I kill it it's because I'm superior through survival of the fittest, and am reaping the rewards of my species evolution. Either you believe in survival of the fittest or you don't . Don't have double standards that animals need to be protected through laws because they're inferior but at the same time it's fair game to kill them for meat.

You apparently have no clue what I'm saying.

I do.

No you don't.

'Splain then.

I don't think science is a good thing. At least not the science that tests medicine on animals.

Eh, unless it gets results, of course. Then you aren't needlessly harming animals.
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