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Rick Santorum says Bruce Jenner is a woman

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5/2/2015 9:09:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
"If he says he's a woman, then he's a woman. My responsibility as a human being is to love and accept everybody. Not to criticize people for who they are. I can criticize, and I do, for what people do, for their behavior. But as far as for who they are, you have to respect everybody, and these are obviously complex issues for businesses, for society, and I think we have to look at it in a way that is compassionate and respectful of everybody." (http://www.buzzfeed.com...)
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5/3/2015 8:30:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/2/2015 9:09:40 PM, TN05 wrote:
"If he says he's a woman, then he's a woman. My responsibility as a human being is to love and accept everybody. Not to criticize people for who they are. I can criticize, and I do, for what people do, for their behavior. But as far as for who they are, you have to respect everybody, and these are obviously complex issues for businesses, for society, and I think we have to look at it in a way that is compassionate and respectful of everybody." (http://www.buzzfeed.com...)

I think he's sincere. His sense of morality comes entirely from the Bible, which, surprisingly enough, is actually very trans-accepting.
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5/3/2015 8:54:56 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/3/2015 8:30:05 PM, phiLockeraptor wrote:
At 5/2/2015 9:09:40 PM, TN05 wrote:
"If he says he's a woman, then he's a woman. My responsibility as a human being is to love and accept everybody. Not to criticize people for who they are. I can criticize, and I do, for what people do, for their behavior. But as far as for who they are, you have to respect everybody, and these are obviously complex issues for businesses, for society, and I think we have to look at it in a way that is compassionate and respectful of everybody." (http://www.buzzfeed.com...)

I think he's sincere. His sense of morality comes entirely from the Bible, which, surprisingly enough, is actually very trans-accepting.

I wouldn't quite call it accepting, but it is certainly silent on the matter. The only exception is Old Testament law that prohibited wearing clothing designed for the other gender. Even that isn't clear if it is a moral imperative or a ceremonial imperative (like the ban on wearing clothing of two fabric).

Out of all the LGBT groups, transgenders (the basic activity of living like a different gender, sexual activity excluded) would probably be the least objectionable, insofar as there is no direct Biblical prohibition.
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5/3/2015 9:07:09 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
My "the bible is crap" beliefs aside, I applaud him for saying what he said. It's a move in the right direction.
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5/6/2015 12:00:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/3/2015 8:54:56 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/3/2015 8:30:05 PM, phiLockeraptor wrote:
At 5/2/2015 9:09:40 PM, TN05 wrote:
"If he says he's a woman, then he's a woman. My responsibility as a human being is to love and accept everybody. Not to criticize people for who they are. I can criticize, and I do, for what people do, for their behavior. But as far as for who they are, you have to respect everybody, and these are obviously complex issues for businesses, for society, and I think we have to look at it in a way that is compassionate and respectful of everybody." (http://www.buzzfeed.com...)

I think he's sincere. His sense of morality comes entirely from the Bible, which, surprisingly enough, is actually very trans-accepting.

I wouldn't quite call it accepting, but it is certainly silent on the matter. The only exception is Old Testament law that prohibited wearing clothing designed for the other gender. Even that isn't clear if it is a moral imperative or a ceremonial imperative (like the ban on wearing clothing of two fabric).

Out of all the LGBT groups, transgenders (the basic activity of living like a different gender, sexual activity excluded) would probably be the least objectionable, insofar as there is no direct Biblical prohibition.

If I remember correctly, there is a quote from Jesus saying that you are no longer boy or girl, greek or jew, something-or-other, but One with Christ.
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5/6/2015 1:56:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/6/2015 12:00:41 PM, phiLockeraptor wrote:
At 5/3/2015 8:54:56 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/3/2015 8:30:05 PM, phiLockeraptor wrote:
At 5/2/2015 9:09:40 PM, TN05 wrote:
"If he says he's a woman, then he's a woman. My responsibility as a human being is to love and accept everybody. Not to criticize people for who they are. I can criticize, and I do, for what people do, for their behavior. But as far as for who they are, you have to respect everybody, and these are obviously complex issues for businesses, for society, and I think we have to look at it in a way that is compassionate and respectful of everybody." (http://www.buzzfeed.com...)

I think he's sincere. His sense of morality comes entirely from the Bible, which, surprisingly enough, is actually very trans-accepting.

I wouldn't quite call it accepting, but it is certainly silent on the matter. The only exception is Old Testament law that prohibited wearing clothing designed for the other gender. Even that isn't clear if it is a moral imperative or a ceremonial imperative (like the ban on wearing clothing of two fabric).

Out of all the LGBT groups, transgenders (the basic activity of living like a different gender, sexual activity excluded) would probably be the least objectionable, insofar as there is no direct Biblical prohibition.

If I remember correctly, there is a quote from Jesus saying that you are no longer boy or girl, greek or jew, something-or-other, but One with Christ.

You're referring to Paul in Galatians. As Paul says in it, "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus". I suppose a loose translation could bring that conclusion, but it'd take a lot of context-break to do that.
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5/7/2015 3:11:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/2/2015 9:09:40 PM, TN05 wrote:
"If he says he's a woman, then he's a woman. My responsibility as a human being is to love and accept everybody. Not to criticize people for who they are. I can criticize, and I do, for what people do, for their behavior. But as far as for who they are, you have to respect everybody, and these are obviously complex issues for businesses, for society, and I think we have to look at it in a way that is compassionate and respectful of everybody." (http://www.buzzfeed.com...)

He has clarified his statement on his Facebook page:

Many of you may have read a story published by the website BuzzFeed where I was asked for my thoughts regarding Bruce Jenner. My comment affirmed Jenner as a person, made by God in His likeness as we all are. It was meant to express empathy not a change in public policy. R34;#R06;compassion