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Yassine
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11/13/2015 10:42:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
- "Shootings and explosions erupted in the Paris area on Friday night, and French news services said at least 39 people were dead, dozens wounded and others taken hostage in what appeared to be coordinated militant attacks."

* http://www.nytimes.com...

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11/13/2015 11:27:05 PM
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At 11/13/2015 10:42:25 PM, Yassine wrote:
- "Shootings and explosions erupted in the Paris area on Friday night, and French news services said at least 39 people were dead, dozens wounded and others taken hostage in what appeared to be coordinated militant attacks."

* http://www.nytimes.com...

Thoughts?
60 dead and 100 hostages now.
Yassine
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11/13/2015 11:32:14 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/13/2015 11:27:05 PM, Dilara wrote:
At 11/13/2015 10:42:25 PM, Yassine wrote:
- "Shootings and explosions erupted in the Paris area on Friday night, and French news services said at least 39 people were dead, dozens wounded and others taken hostage in what appeared to be coordinated militant attacks."

* http://www.nytimes.com...

Thoughts?
60 dead and 100 hostages now.

- Yep. The president announced an "emergency state" & the closure of all frontiers.
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11/14/2015 12:10:29 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/13/2015 10:42:25 PM, Yassine wrote:
- "Shootings and explosions erupted in the Paris area on Friday night, and French news services said at least 39 people were dead, dozens wounded and others taken hostage in what appeared to be coordinated militant attacks."

* http://www.nytimes.com...

Thoughts?

My bet is on Muslims.
Yassine
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11/14/2015 12:15:38 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/14/2015 12:10:29 AM, Wylted wrote:

My bet is on Muslims.

- Not Muslims. Some individuals whose faith happens to be Islam. & yes, it's probably the more likely option.
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11/14/2015 12:20:42 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/13/2015 10:42:25 PM, Yassine wrote:
- "Shootings and explosions erupted in the Paris area on Friday night, and French news services said at least 39 people were dead, dozens wounded and others taken hostage in what appeared to be coordinated militant attacks."

* http://www.nytimes.com...

Thoughts?

You live in Paris? How are people's thoughts and reactions there?
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11/14/2015 12:22:46 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/13/2015 10:42:25 PM, Yassine wrote:
- "Shootings and explosions erupted in the Paris area on Friday night, and French news services said at least 39 people were dead, dozens wounded and others taken hostage in what appeared to be coordinated militant attacks."

* http://www.nytimes.com...

Thoughts?

This video encapsulates most of my thoughts behind the shooting (replace Hebdo with the current shooting)

https://www.youtube.com...
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11/14/2015 12:23:13 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/14/2015 12:15:38 AM, Yassine wrote:
At 11/14/2015 12:10:29 AM, Wylted wrote:

My bet is on Muslims.

- Not Muslims. Some individuals whose faith happens to be Islam. & yes, it's probably the more likely option.

Fair enough
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11/14/2015 12:26:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
https://twitter.com... Around 100 people in Paris dead.
"Our life is what our thoughts make it."
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11/14/2015 12:29:04 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/14/2015 12:20:42 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:

You live in Paris? How are people's thoughts and reactions there?

- I live in the 15th district, the attacks happened in the 11th. I am following the news from French TV. Apparently people are terrified. It's terrible. A lot of emotions. & nobody really knows what happened. Or if new attacks are gonna happen. The streets are cleared. The sporadic nature of the attacks (unlike Charlie Hebdo where they were targeted) left people in constant worry. Friends are sending each-other 'safe' notifications on facebook (I must've received a hundred). The 11th district tourists are being hosted by neighborhood communities... etc...etc.
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11/14/2015 12:30:47 AM
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At 11/14/2015 12:26:25 AM, That1User wrote:
https://twitter.com... Around 100 people in Paris dead.

- There is another 60 is a state of emergency!!! The number may get higher in coming hours.
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11/14/2015 12:31:03 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/14/2015 12:29:04 AM, Yassine wrote:
At 11/14/2015 12:20:42 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:

You live in Paris? How are people's thoughts and reactions there?

- I live in the 15th district, the attacks happened in the 11th. I am following the news from French TV. Apparently people are terrified. It's terrible. A lot of emotions. & nobody really knows what happened. Or if new attacks are gonna happen. The streets are cleared. The sporadic nature of the attacks (unlike Charlie Hebdo where they were targeted) left people in constant worry. Friends are sending each-other 'safe' notifications on facebook (I must've received a hundred). The 11th district tourists are being hosted by neighborhood communities... etc...etc.

They're attacks seem to be getting bolder and worst.
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11/14/2015 12:42:00 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/14/2015 12:31:03 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:

They're attacks seem to be getting bolder and worst.

- Seriously! I am starting to think the French police are not as competent as they claim they are. Now it all comes back against us. Innocent immigrants who are here to study or work & have nothing to do with the rest.
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11/14/2015 12:43:31 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/14/2015 12:42:00 AM, Yassine wrote:
At 11/14/2015 12:31:03 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:

They're attacks seem to be getting bolder and worst.

- Seriously! I am starting to think the French police are not as competent as they claim they are. Now it all comes back against us. Innocent immigrants who are here to study or work & have nothing to do with the rest.

Moderates end up getting targeted instead of the extremists, exactly what I hate about the aftermath of these attacks.
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11/14/2015 12:44:17 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/14/2015 12:30:47 AM, Yassine wrote:
At 11/14/2015 12:26:25 AM, That1User wrote:
https://twitter.com... Around 100 people in Paris dead.

- There is another 60 is a state of emergency!!! The number may get higher in coming hours.

162 deaths in Paris, 60 from the initial attack, 100 hostages killed, and 2 terrorists killed.
"Our life is what our thoughts make it."
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"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love." -Marcus Aurelius
"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire
"Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do. "-Voltaire
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11/14/2015 12:47:08 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/14/2015 12:44:17 AM, That1User wrote:
At 11/14/2015 12:30:47 AM, Yassine wrote:
At 11/14/2015 12:26:25 AM, That1User wrote:
https://twitter.com... Around 100 people in Paris dead.

- There is another 60 is a state of emergency!!! The number may get higher in coming hours.

162 deaths in Paris, 60 from the initial attack, 100 hostages killed, and 2 terrorists killed.
*3 terrorists killed http://variety.com...
"Our life is what our thoughts make it."
R13; Marcus Aurelius
"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love." -Marcus Aurelius
"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire
"Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do. "-Voltaire
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11/14/2015 12:47:48 AM
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At 11/14/2015 12:44:17 AM, That1User wrote:
At 11/14/2015 12:30:47 AM, Yassine wrote:
At 11/14/2015 12:26:25 AM, That1User wrote:
https://twitter.com... Around 100 people in Paris dead.

- There is another 60 is a state of emergency!!! The number may get higher in coming hours.

162 deaths in Paris, 60 from the initial attack, 100 hostages killed, and 2 terrorists killed.

- Where did you get this. They don't have those numbers on French channels!
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11/14/2015 1:05:33 AM
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At 11/14/2015 12:47:48 AM, Yassine wrote:
At 11/14/2015 12:44:17 AM, That1User wrote:
At 11/14/2015 12:30:47 AM, Yassine wrote:
At 11/14/2015 12:26:25 AM, That1User wrote:
https://twitter.com... Around 100 people in Paris dead.

- There is another 60 is a state of emergency!!! The number may get higher in coming hours.

162 deaths in Paris, 60 from the initial attack, 100 hostages killed, and 2 terrorists killed.

- Where did you get this. They don't have those numbers on French channels!

Various sources are stating that 100 hostages were killed, including AFP, according to Variety, 3 terroists were killed. I got 60 dead from the initial attack in this source: http://www.usatoday.com....

According to ITV, 140 people died and 60 people were wounded. http://www.itv.com...
"Our life is what our thoughts make it."
R13; Marcus Aurelius
"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love." -Marcus Aurelius
"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire
"Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do. "-Voltaire
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11/14/2015 1:07:15 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/14/2015 1:05:33 AM, That1User wrote:
At 11/14/2015 12:47:48 AM, Yassine wrote:
At 11/14/2015 12:44:17 AM, That1User wrote:
At 11/14/2015 12:30:47 AM, Yassine wrote:
At 11/14/2015 12:26:25 AM, That1User wrote:
https://twitter.com... Around 100 people in Paris dead.

- There is another 60 is a state of emergency!!! The number may get higher in coming hours.

162 deaths in Paris, 60 from the initial attack, 100 hostages killed, and 2 terrorists killed.

- Where did you get this. They don't have those numbers on French channels!

Various sources are stating that 100 hostages were killed, including AFP, according to Variety, 3 terroists were killed. I got 60 dead from the initial attack in this source: http://www.usatoday.com....

According to ITV, 140 people died and 60 people were wounded. http://www.itv.com...

- According to TF1, 120 deaths. Anyways, numbers will get sorted by the morning.
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11/14/2015 1:09:34 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/14/2015 12:15:38 AM, Yassine wrote:
At 11/14/2015 12:10:29 AM, Wylted wrote:

My bet is on Muslims.

- Not Muslims.

Obviously their Muslims, that's like stating that a 'Christian' or a 'Jew' that commit a terrorist attack are neither. If someone identifies as being part of a religious group, then it's perfectly correct to refer to them as such.

Some individuals whose faith happens to be Islam.

So thus they are Muslims.

& yes, it's probably the more likely option.

Not likely, it is.
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11/14/2015 1:12:17 AM
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At 11/14/2015 1:07:15 AM, Yassine wrote:
At 11/14/2015 1:05:33 AM, That1User wrote:
At 11/14/2015 12:47:48 AM, Yassine wrote:
At 11/14/2015 12:44:17 AM, That1User wrote:
At 11/14/2015 12:30:47 AM, Yassine wrote:
At 11/14/2015 12:26:25 AM, That1User wrote:
https://twitter.com... Around 100 people in Paris dead.

- There is another 60 is a state of emergency!!! The number may get higher in coming hours.

162 deaths in Paris, 60 from the initial attack, 100 hostages killed, and 2 terrorists killed.

- Where did you get this. They don't have those numbers on French channels!

Various sources are stating that 100 hostages were killed, including AFP, according to Variety, 3 terroists were killed. I got 60 dead from the initial attack in this source: http://www.usatoday.com....

According to ITV, 140 people died and 60 people were wounded. http://www.itv.com...

- According to TF1, 120 deaths. Anyways, numbers will get sorted by the morning.

http://www.theguardian.com...

They're already being 'sorted out'.
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11/14/2015 1:19:01 AM
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At 11/14/2015 1:09:34 AM, Emilrose wrote:

Obviously their Muslims, that's like stating that a 'Christian' or a 'Jew' that commit a terrorist attack are neither.

- One: why is that relevant in the first place? Two: if some Jew commits a terrorist attack, we don't say Jews did it. We say someone who happens to be jewish did it, a jew. There is a HUGE difference.

If someone identifies as being part of a religious group, then it's perfectly correct to refer to them as such.

- No. It isn't, not even grammatically. Muslims =/= muslims.

So thus they are Muslims.

- They are muslims.

Not likely, it is.

- It was undecided then. Keep up.
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11/14/2015 1:20:09 AM
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At 11/14/2015 1:12:17 AM, Emilrose wrote:

http://www.theguardian.com...

They're already being 'sorted out'.

- A 40 deaths difference in estimate is no where near 'sorted out'.
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11/14/2015 1:33:26 AM
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At 11/14/2015 1:19:01 AM, Yassine wrote:
At 11/14/2015 1:09:34 AM, Emilrose wrote:

Obviously their Muslims, that's like stating that a 'Christian' or a 'Jew' that commit a terrorist attack are neither.

- One: why is that relevant in the first place? Two: if some Jew commits a terrorist attack, we don't say Jews did it. We say someone who happens to be jewish did it, a jew. There is a HUGE difference.

There is virtually no difference and you're simply playing at semantics.

Someone belonging to the Jewish faith=Jewish.

Jewish=Jew.

Try coming up with a better argument next time.

If someone identifies as being part of a religious group, then it's perfectly correct to refer to them as such.

- No. It isn't, not even grammatically. Muslims =/= muslims.

Now this sentence doesn't even make any conceivable sense, thus making it totally invalid.

So thus they are Muslims.

- They are muslims.

Not likely, it is.

- It was undecided then. Keep up.

No it wasn't. The earliest reports established that the perpratorss were Muslims and they were heard shouting 'this is for Syria' and 'Allah Akbar'--which was reported at 10:30 PM, ONLY an hour after the attacks began.
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11/14/2015 1:35:37 AM
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At 11/14/2015 1:20:09 AM, Yassine wrote:
At 11/14/2015 1:12:17 AM, Emilrose wrote:

http://www.theguardian.com...

They're already being 'sorted out'.

- A 40 deaths difference in estimate is no where near 'sorted out'.

Oh, I'm just highlighting the rather significant difference between the latest estimation and you're own ;) In addition I did *not* say that they were 'sorted out' but that they were 'being' sorted it. Read properly.
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11/14/2015 1:37:21 AM
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At 11/14/2015 1:33:26 AM, Emilrose wrote:

There is virtually no difference and you're simply playing at semantics.

Someone belonging to the Jewish faith=Jewish.

Jewish=Jew.

Now this sentence doesn't even make any conceivable sense, thus making it totally invalid.

- Time for some elementary school grammar lessons.

No it wasn't. The earliest reports established that the perpratorss were Muslims and they were heard shouting 'this is for Syria' and 'Allah Akbar'--which was reported at 10:30 PM, ONLY an hour after the attacks began.

- That came up around 12:30, AFTER the president's speech. I was watching the tele non-spot during the whole thing.
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11/14/2015 1:38:20 AM
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At 11/14/2015 1:35:37 AM, Emilrose wrote:

Oh, I'm just highlighting the rather significant difference between the latest estimation and you're own

- Not mine!!!!!!!

In addition I did *not* say that they were 'sorted out' but that they were 'being' sorted it. Read properly.

- Whatever.
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11/14/2015 1:41:10 AM
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At 11/14/2015 1:37:21 AM, Yassine wrote:
At 11/14/2015 1:33:26 AM, Emilrose wrote:

There is virtually no difference and you're simply playing at semantics.

Someone belonging to the Jewish faith=Jewish.

Jewish=Jew.

Now this sentence doesn't even make any conceivable sense, thus making it totally invalid.

- Time for some elementary school grammar lessons.

Oh my, you've just amazed me with your magnificent ability to argue...not. In fact you're pretty unimpressive tonight, and seemingly incapable of disputing logical fact.

No it wasn't. The earliest reports established that the perpratorss were Muslims and they were heard shouting 'this is for Syria' and 'Allah Akbar'--which was reported at 10:30 PM, ONLY an hour after the attacks began.

- That came up around 12:30, AFTER the president's speech. I was watching the tele non-spot during the whole thing.

Nope, this was reported at 10:30PM as I explicitly stated. Just face up to the fact that Muslims committed it and stop trying to deny evidence/make excuses.
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11/14/2015 1:45:23 AM
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At 11/14/2015 1:38:20 AM, Yassine wrote:
At 11/14/2015 1:35:37 AM, Emilrose wrote:

Oh, I'm just highlighting the rather significant difference between the latest estimation and you're own

- Not mine!!!!!!!


Yes it was ;)

In addition I did *not* say that they were 'sorted out' but that they were 'being' sorted it. Read properly.

- Whatever.

My, what happened to your capacity to write actual sentences? Or do you only do that when discussing Muhammad?
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