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11/20/2010 8:55:24 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Thoughts on airport security either with a choice of a full body scan or metal detectors and pat down?

I believe it is the right action for the airports to do so because safety is the major issue with air travel. Arguments against it such as privacy...yeah what's the point of protecting your privacy if the plane will be hijacked or bombed? Thoughts????
At least this will deter some terrorists.
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11/20/2010 2:09:36 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/20/2010 8:55:24 AM, Sniperjake1994 wrote:
Thoughts on airport security either with a choice of a full body scan or metal detectors and pat down?

I believe it is the right action for the airports to do so because safety is the major issue with air travel. Arguments against it such as privacy...yeah what's the point of protecting your privacy if the plane will be hijacked or bombed? Thoughts????
At least this will deter some terrorists.

There aren't that many terrorists, however I have no problem with it....so long as they don't call me out for sneaking food in. Pick your battles.
Lol then again when they got more secure a few years back is the same time they decided to put limits on how much toothpaste you can bring, AND when they started charging for non-carry ons. I think the biggest thing they are doing is trying to make more money, but as far as the checks, I really don't care so long as they don't call the SWAT team for a water bottle.
I also think no one should think of themselves as exempt from such things (Muslim women) if there are exceptions there is no point in the rule. It would just be discrimination. Want on our planes? Follow the rules to get on.
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11/20/2010 2:20:32 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
To answer your posts, though.

At 11/20/2010 8:55:24 AM, Sniperjake1994 wrote:
Thoughts on airport security either with a choice of a full body scan or metal detectors and pat down?

It's invasive, dangerous, and humiliating--not to mention the fact that the "random" people they pick to do "extra security" on are hardly random. Take, for example, a story I heard from a friend of mine a couple days ago. He was flying up from Texas, and he was behind a pretty good-looking girl. Upon seeing this, one of our glorious protectors in the TSA said to his colleagues, "We've got a cutie"--then they pulled her out of line.

I believe it is the right action for the airports to do so because safety is the major issue with air travel. Arguments against it such as privacy...yeah what's the point of protecting your privacy if the plane will be hijacked or bombed? Thoughts????

1. Not doing ridiculous searches --/--> planes will be hijacked or bombed. You're assuming the necessity of these techniques to prove that they're necessary. In other words, circular.

2. By that same logic, we may as well suspend all civil liberties and live in a police state. After all, no point in being free if we're unsafe, right?

At least this will deter some terrorists.

1. No it won't. Terrorists will just use other techniques.

2. Think about it: a terrorist's main goal is to cause panic. In the wake of 9/11, we suspended several civil liberties, opened secret detainment camps in other countries, and instituted invasive, degrading search procedures against American citizens to "avert future terrorist attacks". Seems like the terrorists did a pretty good job.
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11/20/2010 2:40:40 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/20/2010 8:55:24 AM, Sniperjake1994 wrote:
I believe it is the right action for the airports to do so because safety is the major issue with air travel. Arguments against it such as privacy...yeah what's the point of protecting your privacy if the plane will be hijacked or bombed? Thoughts????
At least this will deter some terrorists.

This is retarded. First of all, the government should not be allowed to radiate you, look at you naked, or grope your genitals. These measures are extremely invasive and so explicit that the body scan images have to be blurred out on the news.

Also, these security measures aren't protecting anybody because the scan doesn't detect anything that a regular metal detector can't. The supposed liquid bombs can't be detected by the metal detector, but neither can the scanner because if people have liquid bombs, they would likely be inserted in the anal cavity which the scanner can't detect.

And as Benjamin Franklin said: "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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11/20/2010 6:07:44 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/20/2010 2:40:40 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 11/20/2010 8:55:24 AM, Sniperjake1994 wrote:
I believe it is the right action for the airports to do so because safety is the major issue with air travel. Arguments against it such as privacy...yeah what's the point of protecting your privacy if the plane will be hijacked or bombed? Thoughts????
At least this will deter some terrorists.

This is retarded. First of all, the government should not be allowed to radiate you, look at you naked, or grope your genitals. These measures are extremely invasive and so explicit that the body scan images have to be blurred out on the news.

Also, these security measures aren't protecting anybody because the scan doesn't detect anything that a regular metal detector can't. The supposed liquid bombs can't be detected by the metal detector, but neither can the scanner because if people have liquid bombs, they would likely be inserted in the anal cavity which the scanner can't detect.

And as Benjamin Franklin said: "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

If you don't like it, go by train, car or ship. Simple.

The authorities are not scanning people for sexual kicks - in case you didn't know, there's porn on the Internet - they are doing it for reasons of national security.

That said, I'm a frequent flyer and my local airport staff know me and allow me to by-pass security: which saves me VDT - Valuable Drinking Time in the executive lounge!
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11/20/2010 6:28:59 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/20/2010 6:07:44 PM, brian_eggleston wrote:

The authorities are not scanning people for sexual kicks - in case you didn't know, there's porn on the Internet - they are doing it for reasons of national security.

That's extremely untrue. There are plenty of cases, for example, whereby "security personnel" will not only keep the scans (though they're not supposed to), but also circulate them, often for purposes of screwing with or humiliating coworkers.

This, of course, says nothing about the selective screening they do with attractive young women (given that a vast majority of the persons doing this screening are males).
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11/20/2010 6:33:40 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Airport security? What a joke.

Almost every time I have gone through security, I get the "random pat down". I'm not joking, I went to Tanzania with a giant group of teenagers this summer and we flew from Seattle to New York, New York to Amsterdam, and then Amsterdam to Kilimanjaro. And in Seattle, New York and Amsterdam, I got the "random pat down" there and on the way back. Only in Kilimanjaro, where there is no pat down, I got through without being pulled into another room.

The same thing happened to my good friend Kiersten. But for some reason, the guys NEVER got the pat downs. <sigh> Fvck that. TSA is a bunch of middle aged men coping a feel.
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11/20/2010 6:41:32 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/20/2010 6:07:44 PM, brian_eggleston wrote:
At 11/20/2010 2:40:40 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
This is retarded. First of all, the government should not be allowed to radiate you, look at you naked, or grope your genitals. These measures are extremely invasive and so explicit that the body scan images have to be blurred out on the news.

Also, these security measures aren't protecting anybody because the scan doesn't detect anything that a regular metal detector can't. The supposed liquid bombs can't be detected by the metal detector, but neither can the scanner because if people have liquid bombs, they would likely be inserted in the anal cavity which the scanner can't detect.

And as Benjamin Franklin said: "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

If you don't like it, go by train, car or ship. Simple.

A major and unnecessary inconvenience.

The authorities are not scanning people for sexual kicks - in case you didn't know, there's porn on the Internet - they are doing it for reasons of national security.

You didn't refute my argument that these scans are not making us the least bit safer. In fact, they decease our health. Scientists have already come out and warned of the dangers of TSA scanners and the damage of being radiated repeatedly. There's a reason why doctors get out of the room and hide when you are given an x-ray! People can only survive so many instances of radiation exposure which is why doctors track how many times you've had them in your life!
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11/20/2010 10:25:26 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/20/2010 6:33:40 PM, annhasle wrote:
Airport security? What a joke.

Almost every time I have gone through security, I get the "random pat down". I'm not joking, I went to Tanzania with a giant group of teenagers this summer and we flew from Seattle to New York, New York to Amsterdam, and then Amsterdam to Kilimanjaro. And in Seattle, New York and Amsterdam, I got the "random pat down" there and on the way back. Only in Kilimanjaro, where there is no pat down, I got through without being pulled into another room.

The same thing happened to my good friend Kiersten. But for some reason, the guys NEVER got the pat downs. <sigh> Fvck that. TSA is a bunch of middle aged men coping a feel.

I almost got a random pat down but I had 5 mins to get to the other end and as an unaccompanied minor I had to get there quickly so they just let me go -shrugs- I only saw 3 other people get a pat down they were all male and 2 were done by women.
Guess we have different flying experiences.

Also weren't those connected flights? You don't have to go through security with connecting flights.
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11/21/2010 12:01:23 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
The use of body scans is a major boon to the terrorists and ensures that there will be a successful attack. We are better off with pat downs.
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11/21/2010 12:23:39 AM
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Ideally, all airports should be adopting Israeli style security methods(look it up if you're unfamiliar with it), but since that'll probably not happen let's just say I'm willing to receive a body scan if it means people on the flight will be safer. The muslims are trying to cop out of it though. I have this to say to anybody who tries to cop out: If you don't like it, don't fly.
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11/21/2010 12:40:17 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/21/2010 12:23:39 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Ideally, all airports should be adopting Israeli style security methods(look it up if you're unfamiliar with it), but since that'll probably not happen let's just say I'm willing to receive a body scan if it means people on the flight will be safer. The muslims are trying to cop out of it though. I have this to say to anybody who tries to cop out: If you don't like it, don't fly.

Lol ^.^

"All airports can build an explosive-proof room equipped with a device, microwave, radar, electronic pulse or whatever that will cause explosives to detonate. Each person/family and baggage will enter this room. The detonation device will be engaged. If you are carrying explosives, you will meet Allah. Then the next person/family enters. No explosives, no problem"

I like that idea.
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11/21/2010 12:43:25 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/21/2010 12:40:17 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 11/21/2010 12:23:39 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Ideally, all airports should be adopting Israeli style security methods(look it up if you're unfamiliar with it), but since that'll probably not happen let's just say I'm willing to receive a body scan if it means people on the flight will be safer. The muslims are trying to cop out of it though. I have this to say to anybody who tries to cop out: If you don't like it, don't fly.

Lol ^.^

"All airports can build an explosive-proof room equipped with a device, microwave, radar, electronic pulse or whatever that will cause explosives to detonate. Each person/family and baggage will enter this room. The detonation device will be engaged. If you are carrying explosives, you will meet Allah. Then the next person/family enters. No explosives, no problem"

I like that idea.

I always wondered, wouldn't terrorists be smart? I know how to get around it and bomb the fvck out of it.

1) Get on connecting flights
2) have a person go with you to destination A
3) when they pick up their baggage they can hand you the weapons.
4) .........?
5) ATTACK!

Just cause I noticed there is NO security going from baggage claim to the planes, doesn't mean the airports aren't as safe as they think they are.
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11/21/2010 12:45:53 AM
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Somehow Israel manages. There hasn't been a terrorist attack on Israeli planes for ages. They will actually question you before you enter the airport with simple questions such as "where are you going?", etc.. If you're nervous while answering they'll actually view you as suspicious and not allow you to enter the airport.
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11/21/2010 12:47:05 AM
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At 11/21/2010 12:45:53 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Somehow Israel manages. There hasn't been a terrorist attack on Israeli planes for ages. They will actually question you before you enter the airport with simple questions such as "where are you going?", etc.. If you're nervous while answering they'll actually view you as suspicious and not allow you to enter the airport.

Well damn, I'm nervous when people talk to me, and I don't care if I'm just ordering my cancer [chicken] strips.
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11/21/2010 12:48:10 AM
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At 11/21/2010 12:45:53 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Somehow Israel manages. There hasn't been a terrorist attack on Israeli planes for ages. They will actually question you before you enter the airport with simple questions such as "where are you going?", etc.. If you're nervous while answering they'll actually view you as suspicious and not allow you to enter the airport.

I was also talking about US security. I always wondered why the fvck they made it so easy for any real terrorist to get threw. I can't be that much smarter then the terrorists.
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11/21/2010 12:48:53 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/21/2010 12:47:05 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 11/21/2010 12:45:53 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Somehow Israel manages. There hasn't been a terrorist attack on Israeli planes for ages. They will actually question you before you enter the airport with simple questions such as "where are you going?", etc.. If you're nervous while answering they'll actually view you as suspicious and not allow you to enter the airport.

Well damn, I'm nervous when people talk to me, and I don't care if I'm just ordering my cancer [chicken] strips.

These people are specifically trained to pick up suspicious activity though so you're probably safe. ^_^
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11/21/2010 12:51:10 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/21/2010 12:48:53 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 11/21/2010 12:47:05 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 11/21/2010 12:45:53 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Somehow Israel manages. There hasn't been a terrorist attack on Israeli planes for ages. They will actually question you before you enter the airport with simple questions such as "where are you going?", etc.. If you're nervous while answering they'll actually view you as suspicious and not allow you to enter the airport.

Well damn, I'm nervous when people talk to me, and I don't care if I'm just ordering my cancer [chicken] strips.

These people are specifically trained to pick up suspicious activity though so you're probably safe. ^_^

Lol just apply that everywhere "we don't want terrorists in our schools"

1st day of school

I'm scared....what if they don't let me in....?
*DENIED*

*bomber child*
Aright I am going to school...!
*allowed*
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11/21/2010 12:52:43 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/21/2010 12:51:10 AM, lovelife wrote:

Lol just apply that everywhere "we don't want terrorists in our schools"

1st day of school

I'm scared....what if they don't let me in....?
*DENIED*

*bomber child*
Aright I am going to school...!
*allowed*

That's not really how it works though. It's surprisingly very effective.
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11/21/2010 12:55:52 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/21/2010 12:52:43 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 11/21/2010 12:51:10 AM, lovelife wrote:

Lol just apply that everywhere "we don't want terrorists in our schools"

1st day of school

I'm scared....what if they don't let me in....?
*DENIED*

*bomber child*
Aright I am going to school...!
*allowed*

That's not really how it works though. It's surprisingly very effective.

I know. Just figured it would be pretty funny. Its basically profiling to the extreme. But that opens up for a LOT of abuse in the system, and I doubt the US is mature enough to allow profiling of that nature.
I prefer the explosion room. "If you wanna blow yourself up, get it out of your system before getting on the plane"
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11/21/2010 12:58:26 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/21/2010 12:55:52 AM, lovelife wrote:

I know. Just figured it would be pretty funny. Its basically profiling to the extreme. But that opens up for a LOT of abuse in the system, and I doubt the US is mature enough to allow profiling of that nature.
I prefer the explosion room. "If you wanna blow yourself up, get it out of your system before getting on the plane"

Israel has to be paranoid though, considering they're surrounded by several rouge Arab states who want destruction of Israel.
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11/21/2010 1:18:46 AM
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At 11/21/2010 12:58:26 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 11/21/2010 12:55:52 AM, lovelife wrote:

I know. Just figured it would be pretty funny. Its basically profiling to the extreme. But that opens up for a LOT of abuse in the system, and I doubt the US is mature enough to allow profiling of that nature.
I prefer the explosion room. "If you wanna blow yourself up, get it out of your system before getting on the plane"

Israel has to be paranoid though, considering they're surrounded by several rouge Arab states who want destruction of Israel.

Excuses.
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11/21/2010 1:32:02 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
3 Facts:

- We have always had metal detectors in airports. They did nothing to prevent the metal knives that were supposedly used during the 9/11 "attack."

- 9/11 was not the first instance of an airplane hijacking hitherto, nor since.

- It would be much easier to put air marshals on all planes.

Given the last fact, it is painfully clear that:

- This is not to prevent "terrorism," but rather, reduce drug trafficking.
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11/21/2010 3:23:19 AM
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At 11/21/2010 12:45:53 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Somehow Israel manages. There hasn't been a terrorist attack on Israeli planes for ages. They will actually question you before you enter the airport with simple questions such as "where are you going?", etc.. If you're nervous while answering they'll actually view you as suspicious and not allow you to enter the airport.

The Detroit airport has more flights by 6AM than all of Israel in a week. Their measures are not as manageable in the US.

I agree with Ren on Marshals.
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11/21/2010 8:53:34 AM
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At 11/20/2010 10:25:26 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 11/20/2010 6:33:40 PM, annhasle wrote:
Airport security? What a joke.

Almost every time I have gone through security, I get the "random pat down". I'm not joking, I went to Tanzania with a giant group of teenagers this summer and we flew from Seattle to New York, New York to Amsterdam, and then Amsterdam to Kilimanjaro. And in Seattle, New York and Amsterdam, I got the "random pat down" there and on the way back. Only in Kilimanjaro, where there is no pat down, I got through without being pulled into another room.

The same thing happened to my good friend Kiersten. But for some reason, the guys NEVER got the pat downs. <sigh> Fvck that. TSA is a bunch of middle aged men coping a feel.

I almost got a random pat down but I had 5 mins to get to the other end and as an unaccompanied minor I had to get there quickly so they just let me go -shrugs- I only saw 3 other people get a pat down they were all male and 2 were done by women.
Guess we have different flying experiences.

I fly to Europe and back two or three times a month and have always gotten a pat down... I hate the TSA. And with these whole body scans, I don't really care that they can "see" everything like some people do. But, since I travel so much, I'm going to get radiated A LOT.... <sigh>

Also weren't those connected flights? You don't have to go through security with connecting flights.

Yeah, you do have to go through security since it's a international flight plus we were changing airlines.
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11/21/2010 9:18:24 AM
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At 11/21/2010 8:53:34 AM, annhasle wrote:
At 11/20/2010 10:25:26 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 11/20/2010 6:33:40 PM, annhasle wrote:
Airport security? What a joke.

Almost every time I have gone through security, I get the "random pat down". I'm not joking, I went to Tanzania with a giant group of teenagers this summer and we flew from Seattle to New York, New York to Amsterdam, and then Amsterdam to Kilimanjaro. And in Seattle, New York and Amsterdam, I got the "random pat down" there and on the way back. Only in Kilimanjaro, where there is no pat down, I got through without being pulled into another room.

The same thing happened to my good friend Kiersten. But for some reason, the guys NEVER got the pat downs. <sigh> Fvck that. TSA is a bunch of middle aged men coping a feel.

I almost got a random pat down but I had 5 mins to get to the other end and as an unaccompanied minor I had to get there quickly so they just let me go -shrugs- I only saw 3 other people get a pat down they were all male and 2 were done by women.
Guess we have different flying experiences.

I fly to Europe and back two or three times a month and have always gotten a pat down... I hate the TSA. And with these whole body scans, I don't really care that they can "see" everything like some people do. But, since I travel so much, I'm going to get radiated A LOT.... <sigh>

Also weren't those connected flights? You don't have to go through security with connecting flights.

Yeah, you do have to go through security since it's a international flight plus we were changing airlines.

Changing airlines doesn't make you go through security twice. Once your through security your through unless you exit the airport, but there are ways to get back in without having to go through security anyway.
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11/21/2010 9:21:52 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/21/2010 9:18:24 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 11/21/2010 8:53:34 AM, annhasle wrote:
At 11/20/2010 10:25:26 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 11/20/2010 6:33:40 PM, annhasle wrote:
Airport security? What a joke.

Almost every time I have gone through security, I get the "random pat down". I'm not joking, I went to Tanzania with a giant group of teenagers this summer and we flew from Seattle to New York, New York to Amsterdam, and then Amsterdam to Kilimanjaro. And in Seattle, New York and Amsterdam, I got the "random pat down" there and on the way back. Only in Kilimanjaro, where there is no pat down, I got through without being pulled into another room.

The same thing happened to my good friend Kiersten. But for some reason, the guys NEVER got the pat downs. <sigh> Fvck that. TSA is a bunch of middle aged men coping a feel.

I almost got a random pat down but I had 5 mins to get to the other end and as an unaccompanied minor I had to get there quickly so they just let me go -shrugs- I only saw 3 other people get a pat down they were all male and 2 were done by women.
Guess we have different flying experiences.

I fly to Europe and back two or three times a month and have always gotten a pat down... I hate the TSA. And with these whole body scans, I don't really care that they can "see" everything like some people do. But, since I travel so much, I'm going to get radiated A LOT.... <sigh>

Also weren't those connected flights? You don't have to go through security with connecting flights.

Yeah, you do have to go through security since it's a international flight plus we were changing airlines.

Changing airlines doesn't make you go through security twice. Once your through security your through unless you exit the airport, but there are ways to get back in without having to go through security anyway.

Dude, maybe not at your airport - I don't know. But, after traveling for the last seventeen years and taking more international flights than a pilot (lol), I think I'd know if you have to go through security. This just started happening back in '07, but NOW, you have to go through security again. Sometimes they have a check at the gate and sometimes they make you go through the TSA. It's up to them.
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11/21/2010 9:27:59 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/21/2010 12:58:26 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 11/21/2010 12:55:52 AM, lovelife wrote:

I know. Just figured it would be pretty funny. Its basically profiling to the extreme. But that opens up for a LOT of abuse in the system, and I doubt the US is mature enough to allow profiling of that nature.
I prefer the explosion room. "If you wanna blow yourself up, get it out of your system before getting on the plane"

Israel has to be paranoid though, considering they're surrounded by several rouge Arab states who want destruction of Israel.

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11/21/2010 9:29:26 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/21/2010 9:21:52 AM, annhasle wrote:
At 11/21/2010 9:18:24 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 11/21/2010 8:53:34 AM, annhasle wrote:
At 11/20/2010 10:25:26 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 11/20/2010 6:33:40 PM, annhasle wrote:
Airport security? What a joke.

Almost every time I have gone through security, I get the "random pat down". I'm not joking, I went to Tanzania with a giant group of teenagers this summer and we flew from Seattle to New York, New York to Amsterdam, and then Amsterdam to Kilimanjaro. And in Seattle, New York and Amsterdam, I got the "random pat down" there and on the way back. Only in Kilimanjaro, where there is no pat down, I got through without being pulled into another room.

The same thing happened to my good friend Kiersten. But for some reason, the guys NEVER got the pat downs. <sigh> Fvck that. TSA is a bunch of middle aged men coping a feel.

I almost got a random pat down but I had 5 mins to get to the other end and as an unaccompanied minor I had to get there quickly so they just let me go -shrugs- I only saw 3 other people get a pat down they were all male and 2 were done by women.
Guess we have different flying experiences.

I fly to Europe and back two or three times a month and have always gotten a pat down... I hate the TSA. And with these whole body scans, I don't really care that they can "see" everything like some people do. But, since I travel so much, I'm going to get radiated A LOT.... <sigh>

Also weren't those connected flights? You don't have to go through security with connecting flights.

Yeah, you do have to go through security since it's a international flight plus we were changing airlines.

Changing airlines doesn't make you go through security twice. Once your through security your through unless you exit the airport, but there are ways to get back in without having to go through security anyway.

Dude, maybe not at your airport - I don't know. But, after traveling for the last seventeen years and taking more international flights than a pilot (lol), I think I'd know if you have to go through security. This just started happening back in '07, but NOW, you have to go through security again. Sometimes they have a check at the gate and sometimes they make you go through the TSA. It's up to them.

Last flight I went on was this summer went from OKC to Denver to Scottsbluff. From Frontier to idk what it was called. (its a very small airport in Scottsbluff, they just got metal detecters 3 years ago)
But this summer I think I'm going from OKC to Denver to Ontario California (Frontier to AA) so I'll see if that makes a difference. But I wonder around the airport and you just have to go past the food courts to be at a different airline wating area. (I got lost time before last)
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