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Peepette
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6/29/2016 1:40:45 AM
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Family own pharmacy's refusal to fill contraception or morning after prescriptions. Is this ethical? Discuss.

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6/29/2016 1:53:50 AM
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At 6/29/2016 1:40:45 AM, Peepette wrote:
Family own pharmacy's refusal to fill contraception or morning after prescriptions. Is this ethical? Discuss.

https://www.yahoo.com...

If it's a private business they can deny anything they would like.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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6/29/2016 2:09:30 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/29/2016 1:53:50 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:40:45 AM, Peepette wrote:
Family own pharmacy's refusal to fill contraception or morning after prescriptions. Is this ethical? Discuss.

https://www.yahoo.com...

If it's a private business they can deny anything they would like.

Did you bother to read the article? It's a more complex matter.
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6/29/2016 2:12:04 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/29/2016 2:09:30 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:53:50 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:40:45 AM, Peepette wrote:
Family own pharmacy's refusal to fill contraception or morning after prescriptions. Is this ethical? Discuss.

https://www.yahoo.com...

If it's a private business they can deny anything they would like.

Did you bother to read the article? It's a more complex matter.

Yes, it violated a regulation. The law must be enforced, but that law in specific is idiotic. If they do not want to deliver contraceptives, they shouldn't have to unless that person already paid for it.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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6/29/2016 2:18:13 AM
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At 6/29/2016 2:12:04 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:09:30 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:53:50 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:40:45 AM, Peepette wrote:
Family own pharmacy's refusal to fill contraception or morning after prescriptions. Is this ethical? Discuss.

https://www.yahoo.com...

If it's a private business they can deny anything they would like.

Did you bother to read the article? It's a more complex matter.

Yes, it violated a regulation. The law must be enforced, but that law in specific is idiotic. If they do not want to deliver contraceptives, they shouldn't have to unless that person already paid for it.

How is the law in specific idiotic? No one should be "given" any prescription for nothing? What's your point?
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6/29/2016 2:20:17 AM
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At 6/29/2016 2:18:13 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:12:04 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:09:30 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:53:50 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:40:45 AM, Peepette wrote:
Family own pharmacy's refusal to fill contraception or morning after prescriptions. Is this ethical? Discuss.

https://www.yahoo.com...

If it's a private business they can deny anything they would like.

Did you bother to read the article? It's a more complex matter.

Yes, it violated a regulation. The law must be enforced, but that law in specific is idiotic. If they do not want to deliver contraceptives, they shouldn't have to unless that person already paid for it.

How is the law in specific idiotic? No one should be "given" any prescription for nothing? What's your point?

My point is that no one should be forced to act against their own will when providing a service to another person.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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6/29/2016 2:27:23 AM
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At 6/29/2016 2:20:17 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:18:13 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:12:04 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:09:30 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:53:50 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:40:45 AM, Peepette wrote:
Family own pharmacy's refusal to fill contraception or morning after prescriptions. Is this ethical? Discuss.

https://www.yahoo.com...

If it's a private business they can deny anything they would like.

Did you bother to read the article? It's a more complex matter.

Yes, it violated a regulation. The law must be enforced, but that law in specific is idiotic. If they do not want to deliver contraceptives, they shouldn't have to unless that person already paid for it.

How is the law in specific idiotic? No one should be "given" any prescription for nothing? What's your point?

My point is that no one should be forced to act against their own will when providing a service to another person.

I don't think you have really thought out the issue at hand. First, the confidentiality of a doctor and patient. The pharmacist does not know what has occurred between the two. To deny a woman concraception who is incapable of carrying a pregnancy to term is in a tough spot if a pharmacist refuses to fill a contraceptive. There are multiple health reasons why women need contraceptives other than for so called " selfish reasons" as deemed by the bible fanatics.
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6/29/2016 4:35:58 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/29/2016 2:20:17 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:18:13 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:12:04 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:09:30 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:53:50 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:40:45 AM, Peepette wrote:
Family own pharmacy's refusal to fill contraception or morning after prescriptions. Is this ethical? Discuss.

https://www.yahoo.com...

If it's a private business they can deny anything they would like.

Did you bother to read the article? It's a more complex matter.

Yes, it violated a regulation. The law must be enforced, but that law in specific is idiotic. If they do not want to deliver contraceptives, they shouldn't have to unless that person already paid for it.

How is the law in specific idiotic? No one should be "given" any prescription for nothing? What's your point?

My point is that no one should be forced to act against their own will when providing a service to another person.

I generally agree with you, but there are exceptions. Most people don't swear an oath related to the welfare of their patients or clients. If a pharmacist refuses to provide legal drugs, they should not be a pharmacist.
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6/29/2016 7:02:43 PM
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At 6/29/2016 4:35:58 AM, Canuck wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:20:17 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:18:13 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:12:04 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:09:30 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:53:50 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:40:45 AM, Peepette wrote:
Family own pharmacy's refusal to fill contraception or morning after prescriptions. Is this ethical? Discuss.

https://www.yahoo.com...

If it's a private business they can deny anything they would like.

Did you bother to read the article? It's a more complex matter.

Yes, it violated a regulation. The law must be enforced, but that law in specific is idiotic. If they do not want to deliver contraceptives, they shouldn't have to unless that person already paid for it.

How is the law in specific idiotic? No one should be "given" any prescription for nothing? What's your point?

My point is that no one should be forced to act against their own will when providing a service to another person.

I generally agree with you, but there are exceptions. Most people don't swear an oath related to the welfare of their patients or clients. If a pharmacist refuses to provide legal drugs, they should not be a pharmacist.

Agreed.
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7/1/2016 2:24:08 AM
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At 6/29/2016 2:20:17 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:18:13 AM, Peepette wrote:
How is the law in specific idiotic? No one should be "given" any prescription for nothing? What's your point?

My point is that no one should be forced to act against their own will when providing a service to another person.

They know your point. Libtards just enjoy being @sses while they watch their victims object to being victims.
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7/1/2016 2:24:41 AM
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At 7/1/2016 2:24:08 AM, Rukado wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:20:17 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:18:13 AM, Peepette wrote:
How is the law in specific idiotic? No one should be "given" any prescription for nothing? What's your point?

My point is that no one should be forced to act against their own will when providing a service to another person.

They know your point. Libtards just enjoy being @sses while they watch their victims object to being victims.

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If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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7/2/2016 4:50:01 AM
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At 6/29/2016 4:35:58 AM, Canuck wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:20:17 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:18:13 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:12:04 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:09:30 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:53:50 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:40:45 AM, Peepette wrote:
Family own pharmacy's refusal to fill contraception or morning after prescriptions. Is this ethical? Discuss.

https://www.yahoo.com...

If it's a private business they can deny anything they would like.

Did you bother to read the article? It's a more complex matter.

Yes, it violated a regulation. The law must be enforced, but that law in specific is idiotic. If they do not want to deliver contraceptives, they shouldn't have to unless that person already paid for it.

How is the law in specific idiotic? No one should be "given" any prescription for nothing? What's your point?

My point is that no one should be forced to act against their own will when providing a service to another person.

I generally agree with you, but there are exceptions. Most people don't swear an oath related to the welfare of their patients or clients. If a pharmacist refuses to provide legal drugs, they should not be a pharmacist.

So they should be barred from an entire field of work because they object to a single type of drug?
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7/2/2016 5:59:48 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/29/2016 2:27:23 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:20:17 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:18:13 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:12:04 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:09:30 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:53:50 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:40:45 AM, Peepette wrote:
Family own pharmacy's refusal to fill contraception or morning after prescriptions. Is this ethical? Discuss.

https://www.yahoo.com...

If it's a private business they can deny anything they would like.

Did you bother to read the article? It's a more complex matter.

Yes, it violated a regulation. The law must be enforced, but that law in specific is idiotic. If they do not want to deliver contraceptives, they shouldn't have to unless that person already paid for it.

How is the law in specific idiotic? No one should be "given" any prescription for nothing? What's your point?

My point is that no one should be forced to act against their own will when providing a service to another person.


I don't think you have really thought out the issue at hand. First, the confidentiality of a doctor and patient. The pharmacist does not know what has occurred between the two. To deny a woman concraception who is incapable of carrying a pregnancy to term is in a tough spot if a pharmacist refuses to fill a contraceptive. There are multiple health reasons why women need contraceptives other than for so called " selfish reasons" as deemed by the bible fanatics.

It is despicable to subjugate a business by way of claims of "need."

A restaraunt should be able to refuse food to a crowd of morbidly starving people if they feel like it.
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7/2/2016 1:09:13 PM
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At 7/2/2016 4:50:01 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 6/29/2016 4:35:58 AM, Canuck wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:20:17 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:18:13 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:12:04 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:09:30 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:53:50 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:40:45 AM, Peepette wrote:
Family own pharmacy's refusal to fill contraception or morning after prescriptions. Is this ethical? Discuss.

https://www.yahoo.com...

If it's a private business they can deny anything they would like.

Did you bother to read the article? It's a more complex matter.

Yes, it violated a regulation. The law must be enforced, but that law in specific is idiotic. If they do not want to deliver contraceptives, they shouldn't have to unless that person already paid for it.

How is the law in specific idiotic? No one should be "given" any prescription for nothing? What's your point?

My point is that no one should be forced to act against their own will when providing a service to another person.

I generally agree with you, but there are exceptions. Most people don't swear an oath related to the welfare of their patients or clients. If a pharmacist refuses to provide legal drugs, they should not be a pharmacist.

So they should be barred from an entire field of work because they object to a single type of drug?

They can object as much as they want - but don't pick a career if you know you can't fulfill the requirements
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7/2/2016 2:14:55 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/2/2016 4:50:01 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 6/29/2016 4:35:58 AM, Canuck wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:20:17 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:18:13 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:12:04 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:09:30 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:53:50 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:40:45 AM, Peepette wrote:
Family own pharmacy's refusal to fill contraception or morning after prescriptions. Is this ethical? Discuss.

https://www.yahoo.com...

If it's a private business they can deny anything they would like.

Did you bother to read the article? It's a more complex matter.

Yes, it violated a regulation. The law must be enforced, but that law in specific is idiotic. If they do not want to deliver contraceptives, they shouldn't have to unless that person already paid for it.

How is the law in specific idiotic? No one should be "given" any prescription for nothing? What's your point?

My point is that no one should be forced to act against their own will when providing a service to another person.

I generally agree with you, but there are exceptions. Most people don't swear an oath related to the welfare of their patients or clients. If a pharmacist refuses to provide legal drugs, they should not be a pharmacist.

So they should be barred from an entire field of work because they object to a single type of drug?

They take an oath much like a doctor's.
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7/2/2016 2:17:54 PM
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At 7/2/2016 5:59:48 AM, ShabShoral wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:27:23 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:20:17 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:18:13 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:12:04 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:09:30 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:53:50 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:40:45 AM, Peepette wrote:
Family own pharmacy's refusal to fill contraception or morning after prescriptions. Is this ethical? Discuss.

https://www.yahoo.com...

If it's a private business they can deny anything they would like.

Did you bother to read the article? It's a more complex matter.

Yes, it violated a regulation. The law must be enforced, but that law in specific is idiotic. If they do not want to deliver contraceptives, they shouldn't have to unless that person already paid for it.

How is the law in specific idiotic? No one should be "given" any prescription for nothing? What's your point?

My point is that no one should be forced to act against their own will when providing a service to another person.


I don't think you have really thought out the issue at hand. First, the confidentiality of a doctor and patient. The pharmacist does not know what has occurred between the two. To deny a woman concraception who is incapable of carrying a pregnancy to term is in a tough spot if a pharmacist refuses to fill a contraceptive. There are multiple health reasons why women need contraceptives other than for so called " selfish reasons" as deemed by the bible fanatics.

It is despicable to subjugate a business by way of claims of "need."

A restaraunt should be able to refuse food to a crowd of morbidly starving people if they feel like it.

Personally, I think if a fee for service public business denys anyone it's akin to Jim Crow laws.
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7/2/2016 2:41:37 PM
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At 7/2/2016 1:09:13 PM, Canuck wrote:
At 7/2/2016 4:50:01 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 6/29/2016 4:35:58 AM, Canuck wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:20:17 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:18:13 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:12:04 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:09:30 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:53:50 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:40:45 AM, Peepette wrote:
Family own pharmacy's refusal to fill contraception or morning after prescriptions. Is this ethical? Discuss.

https://www.yahoo.com...

If it's a private business they can deny anything they would like.

Did you bother to read the article? It's a more complex matter.

Yes, it violated a regulation. The law must be enforced, but that law in specific is idiotic. If they do not want to deliver contraceptives, they shouldn't have to unless that person already paid for it.

How is the law in specific idiotic? No one should be "given" any prescription for nothing? What's your point?

My point is that no one should be forced to act against their own will when providing a service to another person.

I generally agree with you, but there are exceptions. Most people don't swear an oath related to the welfare of their patients or clients. If a pharmacist refuses to provide legal drugs, they should not be a pharmacist.

So they should be barred from an entire field of work because they object to a single type of drug?

They can object as much as they want - but don't pick a career if you know you can't fulfill the requirements

Who says that the "requirements" of the career have to include selling contraceptives? There is no objective standard to determine that.
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7/2/2016 2:43:23 PM
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At 7/2/2016 2:14:55 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 7/2/2016 4:50:01 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 6/29/2016 4:35:58 AM, Canuck wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:20:17 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:18:13 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:12:04 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:09:30 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:53:50 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:40:45 AM, Peepette wrote:
Family own pharmacy's refusal to fill contraception or morning after prescriptions. Is this ethical? Discuss.

https://www.yahoo.com...

If it's a private business they can deny anything they would like.

Did you bother to read the article? It's a more complex matter.

Yes, it violated a regulation. The law must be enforced, but that law in specific is idiotic. If they do not want to deliver contraceptives, they shouldn't have to unless that person already paid for it.

How is the law in specific idiotic? No one should be "given" any prescription for nothing? What's your point?

My point is that no one should be forced to act against their own will when providing a service to another person.

I generally agree with you, but there are exceptions. Most people don't swear an oath related to the welfare of their patients or clients. If a pharmacist refuses to provide legal drugs, they should not be a pharmacist.

So they should be barred from an entire field of work because they object to a single type of drug?

They take an oath much like a doctor's.

So? Why does that mean they can't opt out of selling a single kind of drug, one which isn't vital for anybody to live?
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7/2/2016 2:51:46 PM
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At 7/2/2016 2:43:23 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 7/2/2016 2:14:55 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 7/2/2016 4:50:01 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 6/29/2016 4:35:58 AM, Canuck wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:20:17 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:18:13 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:12:04 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:09:30 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:53:50 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:40:45 AM, Peepette wrote:
Family own pharmacy's refusal to fill contraception or morning after prescriptions. Is this ethical? Discuss.

https://www.yahoo.com...

If it's a private business they can deny anything they would like.

Did you bother to read the article? It's a more complex matter.

Yes, it violated a regulation. The law must be enforced, but that law in specific is idiotic. If they do not want to deliver contraceptives, they shouldn't have to unless that person already paid for it.

How is the law in specific idiotic? No one should be "given" any prescription for nothing? What's your point?

My point is that no one should be forced to act against their own will when providing a service to another person.

I generally agree with you, but there are exceptions. Most people don't swear an oath related to the welfare of their patients or clients. If a pharmacist refuses to provide legal drugs, they should not be a pharmacist.

So they should be barred from an entire field of work because they object to a single type of drug?

They take an oath much like a doctor's.

So? Why does that mean they can't opt out of selling a single kind of drug, one which isn't vital for anybody to live?

See post #7. The pharmacist does not know what has transpired between the patient and doctor, nor does pharmasists know the medical reason why a specific drug is prescribed. The reason could very well be vital to life.
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7/4/2016 7:22:45 AM
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At 6/29/2016 1:40:45 AM, Peepette wrote:
Family own pharmacy's refusal to fill contraception or morning after prescriptions. Is this ethical? Discuss.

https://www.yahoo.com...

The trouble I find in these cases is that the religious exemption clause only applies to the dominant religious beliefs.

If they can play that card so can anyone else.

Sorry it's again my religion to serve a&&holes who threaten children with eternal hell fire unless they believe that magic man blah blah blah.

I shouldn't be forced to support such a wicked lifestyle choice.
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7/5/2016 4:09:02 PM
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At 6/29/2016 1:40:45 AM, Peepette wrote:
Family own pharmacy's refusal to fill contraception or morning after prescriptions. Is this ethical? Discuss.

https://www.yahoo.com...
Of course it is ethical! What isn't ethical is refilling emergency contraception prescriptions.

In fact, by refusing to fill emergency contraception prescriptions, the pharmacy is potentially stopping abortions. To prove this, studies have shown that all forms of emergency contraception have the potential to cause abortion: http://liveactionnews.org...

Bottom line: The "Supreme" Court has no idea what they are doing by rejecting this case. But I guess this is the same court that legalized abortion nationwide in 1973. They have a lot of blood on their hands.
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7/5/2016 4:09:15 PM
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At 6/29/2016 1:53:50 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:40:45 AM, Peepette wrote:
Family own pharmacy's refusal to fill contraception or morning after prescriptions. Is this ethical? Discuss.

https://www.yahoo.com...

If it's a private business they can deny anything they would like.
Amen.
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"The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government."
- Thomas Jefferson

"A person is a person no matter how small."
- Dr. Seuss
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7/5/2016 4:10:41 PM
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This thread is liberal fascism at its worst.
Pro-Life Quotes:

"I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born."
- Ronald Reagan

"The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government."
- Thomas Jefferson

"A person is a person no matter how small."
- Dr. Seuss
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7/5/2016 4:33:47 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/5/2016 4:10:41 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
This thread is liberal fascism at its worst.

So fascism? XD
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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7/5/2016 4:36:12 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/5/2016 4:33:47 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/5/2016 4:10:41 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
This thread is liberal fascism at its worst.

So fascism? XD
Pretty much.

Liberals want to dictate how businesses operate. That sounds pretty fascist to me.
Pro-Life Quotes:

"I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born."
- Ronald Reagan

"The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government."
- Thomas Jefferson

"A person is a person no matter how small."
- Dr. Seuss
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7/5/2016 4:38:04 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/5/2016 4:36:12 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 7/5/2016 4:33:47 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/5/2016 4:10:41 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
This thread is liberal fascism at its worst.

So fascism? XD
Pretty much.

Liberals want to dictate how businesses operate. That sounds pretty fascist to me.

Well no, it's just that they want to dictate association, which is fascist, rather than dictating how businesses operate, which is not exclusive to fascism.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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7/5/2016 4:44:40 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/5/2016 4:38:04 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/5/2016 4:36:12 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 7/5/2016 4:33:47 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/5/2016 4:10:41 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
This thread is liberal fascism at its worst.

So fascism? XD
Pretty much.

Liberals want to dictate how businesses operate. That sounds pretty fascist to me.

Well no, it's just that they want to dictate association, which is fascist, rather than dictating how businesses operate, which is not exclusive to fascism.
Yes, but they want to prevent private businesses from refusing service to certain people because of religious reasons. This is fascist. Private businesses should have the right to do whatever they want to do.
Pro-Life Quotes:

"I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born."
- Ronald Reagan

"The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government."
- Thomas Jefferson

"A person is a person no matter how small."
- Dr. Seuss
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7/5/2016 4:46:34 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/5/2016 4:44:40 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 7/5/2016 4:38:04 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/5/2016 4:36:12 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 7/5/2016 4:33:47 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/5/2016 4:10:41 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
This thread is liberal fascism at its worst.

So fascism? XD
Pretty much.

Liberals want to dictate how businesses operate. That sounds pretty fascist to me.

Well no, it's just that they want to dictate association, which is fascist, rather than dictating how businesses operate, which is not exclusive to fascism.
Yes, but they want to prevent private businesses from refusing service to certain people because of religious reasons. This is fascist. Private businesses should have the right to do whatever they want to do, in terms of who they choose to and not to serve.
Fixed.
Pro-Life Quotes:

"I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born."
- Ronald Reagan

"The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government."
- Thomas Jefferson

"A person is a person no matter how small."
- Dr. Seuss
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7/5/2016 4:46:50 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/5/2016 4:44:40 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 7/5/2016 4:38:04 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/5/2016 4:36:12 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 7/5/2016 4:33:47 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/5/2016 4:10:41 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
This thread is liberal fascism at its worst.

So fascism? XD
Pretty much.

Liberals want to dictate how businesses operate. That sounds pretty fascist to me.

Well no, it's just that they want to dictate association, which is fascist, rather than dictating how businesses operate, which is not exclusive to fascism.
Yes, but they want to prevent private businesses from refusing service to certain people because of religious reasons. This is fascist. Private businesses should have the right to do whatever they want to do.

+1
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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7/5/2016 5:54:52 PM
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At 7/2/2016 2:51:46 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 7/2/2016 2:43:23 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 7/2/2016 2:14:55 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 7/2/2016 4:50:01 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 6/29/2016 4:35:58 AM, Canuck wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:20:17 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:18:13 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:12:04 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:09:30 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:53:50 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:40:45 AM, Peepette wrote:
Family own pharmacy's refusal to fill contraception or morning after prescriptions. Is this ethical? Discuss.

https://www.yahoo.com...

If it's a private business they can deny anything they would like.

Did you bother to read the article? It's a more complex matter.

Yes, it violated a regulation. The law must be enforced, but that law in specific is idiotic. If they do not want to deliver contraceptives, they shouldn't have to unless that person already paid for it.

How is the law in specific idiotic? No one should be "given" any prescription for nothing? What's your point?

My point is that no one should be forced to act against their own will when providing a service to another person.

I generally agree with you, but there are exceptions. Most people don't swear an oath related to the welfare of their patients or clients. If a pharmacist refuses to provide legal drugs, they should not be a pharmacist.

So they should be barred from an entire field of work because they object to a single type of drug?

They take an oath much like a doctor's.

So? Why does that mean they can't opt out of selling a single kind of drug, one which isn't vital for anybody to live?

See post #7. The pharmacist does not know what has transpired between the patient and doctor, nor does pharmasists know the medical reason why a specific drug is prescribed. The reason could very well be vital to life.

Should the pharmacist have to take into account every single reason that the person may need that prescription? Or can they simply not carry that prescription because they find that it can kill what they believe to be a human?

In other words, is it right to expect the pharmacist to know the reason why the drug was prescribed?